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mikehuan
post Nov 5 2011, 09:30 PM

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buy the glove which lasts the longest. but imo you get a better grip and 'feel' of the weights without one. sure, its gonna hurt for a while but you'll get used to it.
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post Nov 10 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 9 2011, 09:57 PM)
Yes, and the whole sweaty palms issue.
I once ripped the skin off my palms during a heavy lift so I used gloves after that episode. I don't know if there is a 'hardcore no glove' thing going on, but I've got my priorities straight.
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i dont see how not wearing gloves makes you hardcore. tongue.gif
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post Nov 10 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Nov 10 2011, 11:38 AM)
lol. i think wearing a glove is more hardcore. laugh.gif
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you're missing the point. its not if you're wearing gloves or not that makes your hardcore. if i see a hardcore lifter, i would be able to tell and its sure as hell not by looking at his hands.
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post Nov 10 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Nov 10 2011, 11:59 AM)
i thought its about the look. laugh.gif the only reason of me wearing gloves is to avoid calluses, which i will terribly tear it of my palm on my free time. its like a habit. dammit.
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wanna look like you workout? then all you need is a wifebeater, tank top, or sleveless. your physique should do the rest. biggrin.gif.
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post Nov 24 2011, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:25 PM)
when I start lifting heavy, my palm feel really pain. Sometime some calusses got rip during heavy lifting. This happen especially for pulling exercise. Will wearing glove help to lessen the pain and skin ripping off?

And ive seen people lifting with strap for pulling movement. Is this better than glove ?
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Gloves help with the pain, for sure. Protects ur skin from callouses. Though imho i prefer no gloves. You grip better and there is no balance issues and you can feel the weight better.

Straps are to eliminate grip problems during heavy pull movements. Grip usually the first to fail and straps are used to bypass that so you can lift heavier than your grip allows you to
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post Nov 27 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Nov 27 2011, 01:45 PM)
used Nike for gym gloves, and then i hate the smell after using it for so long

now not using gloves, i hope i can find Chalk ASAP for deadlifts
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i dont see why its necessary to find chalk to deadlift when you can just use straps. both are just means to an end, for you to deadlift more than your grip allows you to.

furthermore alot of gyms dont allow chalk.
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post Nov 30 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(micksolo @ Nov 30 2011, 12:57 PM)
the point of chalk is so that you don't rip the skin of your hands by dropping heavy weights due to sweat, because then you won't be able to lift again until your hands heal. 

Straps for deadlifts are basically cheating, part of developing strength in the deadlift is increasing your grip strength.  Using grip straps is the same as guys benching on the smith machine.

I Don't use gloves because they make the bar too thick, plus they stink and also any padding will cause bounce, decreasing your total power.  Its why weightlifting shoes have hard soles.
 
Does anyone know where to buy chalk or liquid chalk?
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that, i didnt know. thanks for pointing it out.

i dont see anything wrong with benching on the smith, or using straps. dont see the connection between the two. if using straps means i can deadlift heavier, then by all means i would. not disagreeing with you though. there are two schools of thought on this and wont say either is wrong.

you used chalk before i assume?
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post Dec 1 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Nov 30 2011, 01:25 PM)
My 2 cents.

I've been on both sides of the fence. There was a phase where I deadlifted without straps, and now I intend to deadlift with straps. It's the same tool, but with different objectives.

If my objective was to get better and lift heavier on the deadlift, I'd do it without straps. This is, as pointed out earlier, grip strength is a crucial part of the link.

If my objective was to use the deadlift to fatigue a group of muscles especially my back, I use straps as grip is not part of my agenda. I probably have a seperate day for grip training, and to allow grip to compromise my back training isn't something I want.

To the casual observer I'm still deadlifting, but my objectives makes it different.
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to each their own, i guess.


QUOTE(micksolo @ Dec 1 2011, 08:49 AM)
Well benching on the smith machine and benching with free weights is completely different. IF your goal is to make your pecs bigger and create muscular imbalance (which can lead to injuries) then bench on the smith machine. 

But if you want to increase your true strength, build up all your muscles including the smaller balancing muscles then you should use a free weight rack or dumbells.  Same goes for squatting on the smith vs squatting on a rack with a free bar. 

Another thing to consider is the way your body moves.  Our body never moves in a straight line, its fluid and requires constant balancing.  So using a machine that only moves in one linear direction will not train your body to move better, it only trains a few muscles and the bigger ones. 

For me I lift weights to get stronger and move better.  If you're a body builder or you just want to impress your friends by loading the rack up with more weights then the smith machine is great.

I never used chalk before but I'm getting to a point with my BP and deadlift where I can feel the bar starting to slip because of sweat.

I found a good alternative to chalk - because a lot of gyms might not allow it because of the mess it makes - http://www.amazon.com/Metolius-Ball-Non-Ma...22700415&sr=8-7

Anyone know anywhere in Malaysia that sells something like this?
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i agree, smith, BB and DB benching are completely different. but still tools to an end. if smith benching gives me better pecs, or/and hits pecs better, then by all means i would use the smith.

free weights are not the only way to go. lots of people get bigger, and better using exclusively machines. it gives better isolation for the muscle that you're targeting, which is the goal of your workout. not saying free weights isnt good, my workouts are mostly free weights as well but i do use machines every now and then. smith in particular.

if you wanna only get stronger, then just do the big 3, squat deadlift and bench powerlifting style. thats strength. you wanna bodybuild you should at least incorporate some machines in it too.

how much are you deadlifting anyways?

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post Dec 1 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 1 2011, 10:38 PM)
I oughta somwhat agree with micksolo; the overall feel is not the same, because in SM its more of a guided linear controlled movement. But on a free weight; you have to be fully in control on body movement together with the weight.

I wouldnt say one is better compared to other; its really been very very very long I tried DL on SM; for that matter even squat; I prefer of freeweights... as I really feel the muscles worked out compared to SM, I mainly feel tired, but not on full muscles....but personally I believe its best to combine both variations...
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its a matter of personal preference. if the smith machine gives you better pecs when doing bench presses with them would you still do barbell bench as your main lift?


and dont deadlift on smith. the bar does not travel in a linear line for DL's.
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post Dec 4 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 4 2011, 04:48 PM)
I'm not sure if I understand your statement correct? Are you saying glove caused Callus? Gloves suppose to help prevent from frequent rubbing which causes Callus. Unless the glove is not right-fit which causes the rubbing/friction.
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he dont wear gloves cause he hates them, i should think.

and chalk does give an edge doesnt it? ive read from some forums it increases their poundages than without. have not tried chalk so im just saying from what ive read.

has anyone here used chalk? can give insight a bit please lol.

 

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