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 Mechanical Keyboard Club V4, For Gamers and Typist Enthusiasts

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post Nov 25 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Nov 25 2011, 05:01 AM)
still in developement phase for 2nd Anniversary SE.
The Pom keycap in KBT Pure 2nd Anniversary SE are using original color of POM which is pearl white with minor transparent.(about 10~20% transparency)

they will be no Coated or Painted Keycap on Pure 2nd Anniversary SE.  biggrin.gif
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Google term: "Taobao POM KBC"

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post Nov 25 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Nov 25 2011, 02:10 PM)
OMG, they looks very good, you pay how much for it? it doesn't looks like they only supply you with 33 key only. but alot more?

Btw, just a Minor notice here for Novelty Keycap.

There are still 3 people left that haven't paid me.
avengers88
benl40

These 3 people will be considered as FFK if they failed to make payment before 28th November.
i need to have the money ready for paying RColinTaylor for the invoice. doh.gif

And something funny is going on in geekhack, Paypal has frozen RColinTaylor Paypal account due to huge ammount of money being send into his account. ou god.
Another Ridiculous update :
RColinTaylor has sent me the invoice : $320.95 USD
My Spreadsheet Calculation : $301.23

i was seriously WTF in the process. WHY IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MY SPREAD SHEET CALCULATION. he better have some better explaining about this.
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I came across them while some Taobao searching, kind of interested too but I somehow still prefer the transparent nylon keycaps(probably extincted dy).
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BTW, luckily their order are not much, hope won't affect the overall price, LOL...
Oh wai, I forget that our shipping fee is being shared... doh.gif


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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Nov 25 2011, 03:16 PM)
i'm interest in 510/BW. how to check the KRO things? any list KRO for keyboard for it?
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Wrong thread you came I assume? 510 -> Logitech G510?

KRO thing is being checked using aquakeytest(or similar) program. The maximum number of key being pressed(let say "X") indicate it is "X"KRO.

Geekhack should had a compilation of some mech kb KRO(not sure if they still updating though).

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post Nov 25 2011, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Nov 25 2011, 03:59 PM)
BW is 2KRO, how about logi g510?
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Don't know, buy one and check it yourself? whistling.gif
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post Nov 25 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 25 2011, 05:22 PM)
IBM Model M isn't as expensive as Realforce.

Nah, modding takes a lot of time and effort.

I have neither.
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LOL, it may not be true 100%. A whole new(open box) IBM model M industry/TKL can anytime cost more than your realforce... rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 25 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 25 2011, 06:32 PM)
Aren't those keyboards really old?

Dansdata's review
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Yup, old but golden. Some ppl having retro/vintage fetish and are willing to spend on ridiculous price IBM model M(similar to the cherry ergonomic that sold for >RM7.5k in yahoo.jp February last time....).
BTW, model M is really a good keyboard.
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post Nov 25 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 25 2011, 07:04 PM)
IBM model M not a real biggie, if you look in Taobao.
They are a bit frankenstein-ish, parts from other keyboards to make one keyboard, but the few Model Ms I've got are nice.
Model M SSK are sold there, but you'll need to keep pestering the sellers on stock, since they sold out real quick.
Oh well.
It's very nice of your company to bring in the whole line though.
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But most stock in Taobao is kind of very old/worn.
Though, buy SSK from Taobao and resale in ebay(US) = over 200% profit. whistling.gif
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post Nov 26 2011, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Nov 26 2011, 02:15 AM)
It's 6+4 under USB.
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Hmm, you tried all possible combination?
Strange that Logitech themselve only claim 5KRO.
http://www.logitech.com/en-my/keyboards/ke...rd/devices/7246
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post Nov 26 2011, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Nov 26 2011, 04:23 AM)
LOL... why you now only interested???? When people asked you before, you're being ignorant and sarcastic.... doh.gif
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Bro, chill down. Get your fact right first b4 pointing your missile to me...
I don't own a G510, thats why I can't give comment bout it, not involving any sarcasm here, OK? whistling.gif
Also, not that I am really interested in G510 itself, I just share the 5KRO thing for which it is like the "official statement" from Logitech.

Ignorant? You mean I say he wrong thread part? G510 indeed should not be discussed in this thread.

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Nov 26 2011, 05:21 AM)
will anodized aluminium be the same as being easy to scratch and gotten damaged too easily? sorry for asking about this, because i don't have much knowledge on aluminium.
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Most commonly seen anodized aluminium in Malaysia I think is on Macbook/Ipad, LOL. May be next time you pay a visit to Switch/Machine and try to scratch them?
A properly anodized aluminium do having smooth finish and more resistant. Though, nothing in the wall is perfectly scratch resistant if you purposely want to do so....
My Dell Vostro 3700 is also having anodized aluminium casing but somehow the finish is inferior to that of Mac.

Also, dying is only possible on anodized aluminium due to it's porous(unable to be seen by naked eye) nature.

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post Nov 26 2011, 11:25 PM

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@above

Saw them in GH.

I am wait to see how SS will "BS"/TalkCxxx" bout their new switch choice, LOL...

Qpad, are they rebranded Xarmor?

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post Nov 28 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 28 2011, 11:08 PM)
Don't understand what is the fuss with USB NKRO.
I know Moogle plays that game where he need them.

I only need 6KRO max.
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Who know if there is still any people out there playing retro arcade/fighting games which support multiple(2) players to play on same PC? 4 hands mean 6KRO surely not enough, LOL.

@Akiyo
Most cherry switches(except blue), be it tactile or linear are having no problem with quick double tapping.

Cherry MX Blue itself on its other hand are "naturally" not very suitable for double tapping due to it's double mechanism to actuation(for normal typing which doesn't require quick double tapping of same key, it is perfectly fine). Though, not all ppl are sensitive enough to notice the "limitation" and some ppl still gaming happily on blue(they are blinded by excitements and clicky sound of blue) , same logic like those razer fanboi blinded by razer's bling bling(LOL a little off topic).

As a Razer BWU owner(and hater too), i will suggest better avoid it. It isn't really a solid build for a mechanical keyboard and some many are having certain defects right out of box(where as others are razer fanboi which is too blind to notice them...). Only get them if you are allowed to try and check them + finitely 1to1 exchange them, LOL...

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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 01:25 AM)
Seems like Razer doesnt exactly have a good quality check on their products. My Imperator out of box defect was a almost severed USB cable - the part where it connects into the mouse have its fiber weave bent badly and almost coming off.

Hm... i'll have to reconsider then, because as of now, Blackwidow is the easiest obtainable, plus, its MX Black.

But aside from natural defect, is it decent? I mean, the keys themselves uses the Cherry MX Black design right? Can they even be lacking in that department?
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Bro(or Sis?), Razer BW AFAIK don't have MX Black variant(normal/ultimate/DA2/Battlefied are blue, stealth is brown).
Apart from built quality, it's next low points are glossy surface(fingerprint/oily magnet), not solid(can flex), improper fitted switches(some is slanting left/right and some is high and low), 2KRO, left shift squeking and some others.

Normal out of box defects are pinging(defect in switches) and inter-lapping of some keycaps(normally around c/v/x/left alt/space).

If you are a DIY modder, you can mod them all and make Raze BWU a quite decent board(except the 2KRO part).(though if I am modding, I will go for Rapoo V7 which is like a TKL(tenkeyless) version of BW)

Tactile(bump) mean you will experience a sudden increase in oppose force to indicate to you that the switch is actuating(exclude blue). For more experienced typist(or also those who bottom out the switch all the time), it doesn't really matter apart from personal preference..

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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 01:35 AM)
Sis, actually. Yeah, meant to type Blue. But slightly worried about Blue's double tappability.

2KRO? You serious? I am coming for mechanical keyboards for one most important factor, and thats NKRO.

I am thinking of going for Steel Series now. Steel Series are MX Black only, right? Any good Steel Series recommendation? Personal experience with Steel Series would be nice, and what about their price tag? Do they overprice their stuff like Razer because of their gamer-target? That and, if i want to buy them, is online shipping available in malaysia? (As in, from within malaysia to malaysia, i am not buying a keyboard at 400 something and pay another 150 just for safe shipping)
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Steelseries = black only(for the time being till their limited MX red edition reach).
Steelseries in Malaysia is also seriously overpriced(in europe/US they are often having offer and really cheap/worth). Though, it is also because they are experienced company and also their product(mostly) are quite good quality.
Online shopping? You can find them at lowyat(though the price is somehow overpriced if you don't nego with them, labelled price is RM550). There is a sample for you to try out in viewnet lowyat.

In short, SS = acceptable quality but high price tag. You can get similar quality/feature stuffs like Leopold at much cheaper price.
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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 01:46 AM)
Hm... Thing is, I dont mind the branding, as long it works the way it should. But its availability is a huge concern. If Leopold is good, i would buy it too, but where to buy?
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BTW, are you a notebook/desktop user. Leopold will be a perfect choice if you use notebook as it support 18KRO over USB(which is very very decent).

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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 01:49 AM)
lol, exactly after i posted my post, i went to google and found TS's Leopold Mechanical Keyboard FC500R Series. Now i feel like a dumb XD

So, how does Leopold Mechanical Keyboard FC500R Series hold up? It has MX Black as far as i am concerned, and its a little(lots) under 400, compared to SS.
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Like I mentioned, Leopold's keyboard is quite decent for their quality(on par with premium mech kb brand like FILCO) and this statement is agreed by most keyboard professionals/collectors.
The price is also more affordable than most other brand. I personally feel that it is worth as Leopold at MY is priced quite good comparing to foreign country(where other brands normally will be priced more expensive in Malaysia) + the sale now come with free full blank keycaps(which you can fetch at least RM30 if you sell them, LOL).
Solid built and feature wise it offer the rare USB 18KRO.

As you are a girl, I not sure if you will find black switch too hard/stiff. Brown/Red will be more suggestible if you are not that strong(I personally find all of them(except red cause I don't own them) acceptable.

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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 02:02 AM)
Leopold is gaining alot of points now XD.

From the looks of it, can i assume when you say you own All of the except Red, you mean you have Leopolds in MX Black Blue and Brown, right?

Does the FC500R have PS/2 or its USB only? And for USB thats 18KRO, is it 18 any KRO or like razer's fake 6KRO which, in some cases, even a two key combination causes a roll over? and is the FC500R NKRO on PS/2?

Hm... finger strength wise, i am not too confident. I am a frequent double tapper and Black seems to suit me, albeit the higher actuation force. Then again, i am pretty used to Lycosa's sticky rubber dome crap now.

But it seems that MX Brown can double tap at high speed too if i learn to touch type without bottoming out every time i tap, right?
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LOL I don't own any Leopold(but we normally assume board having same switch will have almost same feeling). I tried black and own brown and blue.

Not sure if Leopold support PS/2 but it's USB 18KRO is real 18KRO(minimum is 18 random keys).

Normal rubber dome = a little stiffer than brown/blue.

Blue = good for typist but having certain issues* if you need to quick double tapping same keys. It is the only clicky Cherry MX switch(apart from Green which will not be discussed further here). Tactile.
Black = linear and some gamers(FPS) like them very much. Maybe tiring for prolonged usage due to it stiffer nature.
Red = almost like lighter version of Black(lighter than brown)

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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Nov 29 2011, 02:07 AM)
want to buy mechanical keyboard for portable and gaming use, any recommendation ?
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Real portable = KBC Poker.
Gaming use = LOL I don't know. What features you looking for?

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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Nov 29 2011, 02:13 AM)
i want to use it for my lappy actually, asus n55s laptop keyboard always make me typo  laugh.gif

i play fifa, crysis, saint row, bf3 and mw3
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If you are not looking for any bling bling/special features like macro, NKRO or multimedia keys, KBC poker should be OK.
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Nov 29 2011, 02:19 AM)
how much  ?hmm.gif
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SRP is around 400 RMB(cheapest version) which will end up at around RM250 shippied to Malaysia.

QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Nov 29 2011, 02:20 AM)
ou, god thanks human10 for helping out fellow members here, my place was raining and thunder like crazy, main power jump off like 4 to 6 times, i straight go take a nap and don't want turn back on.

Finally the crazy weather stopped, and i'm online to check back the forum. biggrin.gif

Cherry MX Red is not bad for gaming and typing. it's just that, some player considers them too soft.
Just like Cherry MX Black, which people considers them too hard.

It's really depends on personal tatse. Leopold do support NKRO in PS/2. and 16+KRO in USB.

@human10 thanks alot for supporting new members here. biggrin.gif btw, i do use the keyboard to play alot emulation game with friends, 2 fella share 1 keyboard, NKRO is best, because my friend can't cheat to win me(he hold 3 key block my key input on membrane keyboard previously, cbcbcb)
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Haha better assist them b4 they made the wrong decision and come here say we cheated on Mech KB awesomeness.

I see what he did there. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Akiyo @ Nov 29 2011, 02:38 AM)
My friend is placing an order at Cyclone's thread already @_@ so decisive.

I am still deciding on Black/Red or even wait until december for Cyclone's brown to restock... hm...

For tenkeyless keyboard, what keys are omitted?
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The whole numpad at the right.
There is myth out there stating that closer mouse placement to your keyboard is healtier, LOL.

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