May be you can shot a video and start a tutorial of it, LOL.

If you are looking for over 90% peace of mind(heard their DOA and warranty rate are really low due to their decent QC), go for FILCO.

If you are looking for more features(USB NKRO, Detachable wire, multimedia keys, LED Backlit and some more) or aesthetic(thin frame, backlit), go for Ducky.

Do note another important deciding/differentiating factor are the type of modifiers used, steel-wire style(costar) or cherry "X" dummy switch style. The first will feel more natural or similar to other normal sized keys while the later may feel stiffer. On the keycaps removal part, the first require a little skills while the former is easy as plucking normal keys.

A little bit LOL... The finish isn't clean and tidy enough.

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Added on January 16, 2012, 11:25 pmI was stating that "hoping" Leopold would escape from those problems/flaws faced by Keycool. Cause from the pictures I seemed so far, I didn't notice any/significant offset in keys in the new Leopold. Possible it is due to different steel plate been used(refer to my Keycool review for more info).

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 16 2012, 11:25 PM

Not sure. I believe the quality/durability is not to be solely judged by the deepness. Though, theoretically, the thicker(deeper), the better.

Filco = premium stuff
Whether worth to pay for a premium stuff, it is a subjective question with no definite answer. Though, for those who can afford it and bought it, so far nobody actually reported to regret about it.

For Ducky, it isn't exactly the top notch built quality(though most normal and not extremely picky users should find it more than enough). If you faced DOA, do your warranty claim then. If you like the features(USB NKRO, Multimedia keys, simple and sophisticated design), then it still worth to go for it(Ducky).


For ABS vs PBT part, it should not be the deciding factor here.
Backlit keycaps for sure is ABS(mostly) and PBT cannot be made into BL keycaps. Also, the feel and resistant to shine on BL keycaps isn't decided by the ABS part but the black coating/painting on it.

In short, if you want peace of mind and top notch quality, go for FILCO.
If you want more features(BL, USB NKRO, Multimedia keys) or more durable keycaps(Ducky PBT), go for Ducky.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 17 2012, 05:56 PM

use PM?

BTW, I found another LED mod. This time it is a complicated/hard one.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-41935-1-1.html

Anyone know if we can import electrical devices like drill from China? Will we get taxed/pay extra for SIRIM aproval?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1424679271

LOL, exactly the same stuff, yet the price cost 4X then what I can find in taobao...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1292946484

Guess thats what unavoidable in Malaysia, earning pitiful amount of salary yet paying overpriced for basicly everything(especially car...)

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 18 2012, 12:52 PM

Yes, USB 6KRO and p/s2 NKRO for Ducky Shine.
You probably confused cause it is hard to explain both(Shine and G2) together.

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Added on January 18, 2012, 9:35 pmBTW, fullsize Ducky XM(alps) is out.
Should serve as a good starter board.
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func...0X&ROWNO=1&tm=u

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 18 2012, 09:35 PM

It is ducky.
Apart from Ducky, iOne and Razer.
The other better choice should be Deck Legend, Mionix Zibal 60 and Durandale.

EDIT: Forget that there is still Corsair and Noppoo out there.

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Added on January 19, 2012, 10:08 pmThe price should be roughly the same with other Ducky Shine model, except if Ducky decided to market it as Dragon Year special edition or what, LOL...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1983047&hl=

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 19 2012, 11:22 PM

Serious poison ahead.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?26307-P...h-Aluminum-case


A thing to take note is the printing of legend on keycaps at the bottom part, an exclusive and first I ever see.

Call it a topless design(as of Neo Zelia 87).
Seems really not bad as long as we won't touch the metal part when typing.

Yup, the guy is a senior member from GH, called "Keyboardlover"

I think he probably the first and only westerner(non China) to get the board, LOL. He isn't too happy with it cause he paid over 130USD for it, which he can already go for the much better rated WASD...

Not sure if it is his(technical) problem or really some problem with his board, as he isn't very expert in technical part(he firstly didn't even know need to insert batteries into the keyboard).

Eitherway, the Neo Zelia's wireless isn't something impressive too. From what I heard in China forum, the wireless really can't make it.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-42095-1-1.html

Though back on the built quality part(soldering, PCB and so on), it is quite promising and nice.

It can be a good alternative for those who look for mobile mech kb yet Poker layout is too limited for your need.

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Added on January 21, 2012, 3:57 pmWhen it come to the situation of aesthetic vs. durability/quality, there isn't a certain answer, LOL...

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 21 2012, 04:06 PM

It took sometimes to migrate from RD or scissor to mechanical. A few typos are somehow expected. Be sure to keep on typing and it will be improved in no time.

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Added on January 25, 2012, 5:23 pmI think nothing can fit in all your requirement, especially "non-Pad Printing keycaps".

Almost all BK keyboard(mechanical) are using coated(or painted) keycaps, which is quite similar to that of pad-printed(durability may differ depend on the quality of coating).

The only BL mech KB which I heard having non-coated keycaps is Deck Legend, but it is hardly to land your hand on one in Malaysia(and it cost much more than your budget).

The closest to your requirement I think is Ducky 9008S, AKA Ducky Shine. It cost a little more than your budget. For more info, PM Malaysia Ducky Distributor - Storm88.


This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 25 2012, 05:23 PM

Note that it is 9008S.

The 9008G2 is non-BL version.

El wire is not as visible as LED under the keycaps.

Somemore,(thick) el wire may affect the travel of the keycaps.

Most original keycaps(especially SS7G) are semi translucent to a certain degree, which mean your LED BL can shine through and visible.

For thicker keycaps like Ducky PBT, Cherry POM and KBC PBT, there may be some problem to shine through it.

Go taobao grab blank(otaku, aka no printed) Keycool White ABS keycaps then? It cost only around RM30(b4 shipped) and is fully compatible with Leopold.

Model M buckling spring should cost around RM50-100, depend on the condition. Though, not sure if many/any Malaysian looking forward it or not, LOL... Good luck in your sale.

It(keycaps) is PBT, known for harder in nature.

My guess is that it won't be too translucent. So don't expect a too visible BL trough it.

If you really look for simple and clear keycaps for BL, you can try the "Keycool white blank key", available through keycool's official taobao shop.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jan 30 2012, 06:47 PM