Hmm, agree.

Hardwood is a highly compact structure and will easily absorb moisture, and yes, they will not bend easily if they are thick. but thickness of 10cm below, they will bend easily if expose to humid condition.

don't worry, plywood is just for testing, hahahahaha.

Off Topic,
i got a homemade tonfa, want pictures? handgrip is stainless steel thou.

What worry me the most is the wood thickness, because i never work with 1cm below thickness. so i'm quite worry the wood will bend.

i think it's the standard black we see on every filco model. this limited edition, selling point would be the awesome sexy yellow keycap.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 8 2011, 05:53 PM

Limited Edition Filco Yellow.

you will have to get it from singapore, ask Squarebox, he's the one that are organizing such the bulk for early buyers with a very good price tag, $175 SGD if i'm not mistaken.

Hmm, i think this would be heavily depend on the price tag of this limited edition keyboard.

If KBC yellow keycap price tag + Filco Keyboard price tag = FILCO LIMITED YELLOW EDITION price tag, would not be so profit.(because you could keep FILCO Keycaps as spare or sell = PROFIT!)

But, if this Yellow keycap is doubleshot then... i will bow to FILCO "Ou, Hail, My Lord Filco, I Must Have That!!"

With more and more options out there, Limited Edition will slowly become "Eh-hem.. not limited" Unless, it has anything to do with casing that is.

the only thing i afraid would be that 175 are the "Bulk" price as you ass, they are cheaper than the SRP(Suggested Retail Price) Price tag. it is possible that the price tag is higher than what undarken/squarebox has provided in Singapore VR-Zone.

Quote from Undarken/Squarebox in VR-Zone Forum.

Well, it's only my guessing, no offense.

2. i don't think gold and yellow would have too much difference.

3. The Yellow keycaps are ABS, and all we know that, KBC does provide ABS Keycaps and multicolor too, which is not only PBT, but ABS too, and in future POM as well!

4. For LED part, i guess that would have be based on user preference. for me, i do think yellow or white LED is kinda distracting to my eye, because they are too bright. But i can't comment about this model LED yet, because there are no one owns the model yet to give us the clear picture of this product.

But.. i don't think LED is hard to solder if you wanted to compare to switch soldering.

Agreed, i'll head to some local shop to play with those LED first and solder some basic board to check the LED.

Do you have any experience in this? because i would wanted to know the suggested voltage/current/resistance and size.

Need to buy a few to get ready, because i'm considering to order the "Phantom board" from geekhack/deskthority to build my own keyboard, along with my wood casing project.

Thanks for the information

Okie dokie

And yes, the real value limited edition are the one you mention. For Keycaps, we could mod it just from purchasing the keycaps from taobao or locally or geekhack.

But Casing, that's another different story, which i think the worth buying limited edition would be the casing.

may i know what keyboard do you use for Mac and Linux?

From what i know, not many keyboard supported it.

For Leopold Mechanical Keyboard, based on some user did mention Leopold does not work on mac, but i tried on my friend's Mac and it did work without any problem. so, i guess you'll have to test first before you make the purchase.

have you ever tried update the USB Drivers? i'm quite worried that may be the problem, as you do read online reviews saying it supported linux, but it's not working on your linux.

You can try alternative solution before giving up on your keyboard unless it is confirm not supported by linux.

Anyone interested in this Chameleon Keyboard Controller ?


Up to 4 layers (640 programmable keys)
* Up to 255 custom/macro keys (29 byte strings)
* N-Key Rollover support (USB currently unknown - at least 6 keys as well)
* "Knob" support - can be used for volume, mouse wheel emulation or LED adjustments
* GPO high-current output port (commonly used for LED mods or as a communication port)
* much more features, but my Chinese skills are too inferior to properly understand any of it

You can mod this controller onto your keyboard, they are programmable and does comes with a software that are compatible with windows regarding towards to Macro and Programmable Keys.

I'm thinking about bringing quite a number of this controller into Malaysia, as well as offering modding service to those people who does not know soldering stuff. OR offering video guide for those that are interested in installing this controller into their keyboard.

So people who purchase Ducky/Filco/Leopold/Noopoo or any kind of mechanical keyboard, you can upgrade your keyboard to have the ability to macro/led brightness adjustment/Macro, and much more multimedia option.

Do note Macros that assigned are hardware input which are not software macro input, for those users that are unable to use macro on MMORPG because of antihack gameguard, you can use this hardware macro to bypass instead.

since i know alot of users who purchase mechanical keyboard complains they do not have media key, and they often plays MMORPG, but MMORPG has antihack stuff which prevents software like "Autohotkey" from controlling your audio or Media application.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 10 2011, 09:28 PM

you interested? if people are interested, i might bring in a lil ammount, i'm still waiting for F600~F700 tenkeyless new model now

based on conversation from squarebox/undarken in singapore forum which is SGD $175, conversion to here is RM4XX, estimated price in Malaysia, RM4XX ~ RM5XX.

Agreed, i'll add a FAQ list at first page.

For Gaming Grade Mechanical Keyboard, i don't think they are actually existed, since they are all marketing gimmicks. if you see membrane keyboard, alot of them claiming to be gaming grade keyboard, but it's only offering different design about it's "Ergonomic Design Keyboard" with good bling bling, while it doesn't offers or improve your gaming ability.

For Me, the only thing that's worth buying membrane keyboard for, are the Macro Function. but currently now, i got mouse to replace all the macro requirement, and i do not require macros on Keyboard anymore.(Well, i gonna built/mod a keyboard with chameleon keyboard controller.

For Mechanical Keyboard, they are more responsive than membrane keyboard if you wished to know, because the switch gets detected when you press the switch half way,(2mm to gets key press detected, 4mm to bottom the key)
This might be sounds pretty unimportant towards users that are still using membrane keyboard, but you can ask users around here about it.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 12 2011, 03:36 PM

Agreed, maybe alot people has never realize, Macro are banned in most gaming tournament (thou i cannot confirm they are banned in MMORPG tournament like WoW, or RO. i mean MMORPG, not MMOFPS )

They are only for convenience for auto buffers as well as doing some repetitive stuff for you, but they are not allowed to use in tournament.

And you have to remember one thing, all we depended on gaming are muscle memory, which you'll respond more faster as you play the game more. Pro gamers uses Muscle Memory, Not Macro.

Let's says you have a keyboard that has alot of extra keys, i mean, Do you actually use them? Every and each keyboard has their own design and key placement, once you get used to it like 1, 2 years, once the product gets discontinue, all your extra key knowledge will be render useless, as Keyboard always has new release and the Macro Key will be always be in different position.

Keyboard Macros are nice only if you use them to do some ridiculous repetitive stuff(something like MMORPG where you play priest applying buff to teammate).

As a reminder always, A macro is to make you more convenient, but they are not dependable.

Hello, Everdying, welcome to mechanical keyboard thread, i believe is it the first time you posted in here? erm.. maybe i already forgotten.
I believe most users here has already know that the price you paying for are the durability as well as reliability of the keyboard.

Mechanical keyboard, Cherry MX Switch, Each key has it's own specific steel springs, which will not stuck while in the process of double-jump/repeated press.(if what you mean is the switch stay at bottom and does not comes back up after pressed which mostly happens in membrane keyboard)
If you did see 1st post about how the Cherry MX Switch move/function while being press, i think you will get what i mean.

For pressing a key and only be detected like 1/2 second later. There are 2 possible problems in 2 area, either a bad keyboard controller, or pin has dust clog up which causing the connection of 2 pin and membrane to not work properly(please refer to Post 1, Membrane Keyboard Gif moveable switch picture).

Edited : added stuff at below.

A Keyboard that has NKRO features, i don't think they will suffer delay detection, those Keyboard controller are designed to handle all the keypress to be registered instantly. i'll have a hard time believe they actually have 1/2 second delay, unless the keyboard controller is faulty.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 12 2011, 06:05 PM

Yes, i have to agree on that.

But some users even use them to double jump, even we said "Not Suited for quick Double Jump", Those gamers still using it to double jump, well.. it's not causing any troubles anyway. I have already pointed out in the first post that Blue are not suitable for gaming anyway.

In the end, it is still depends on user's choice and preference. We could only suggest what's good for the usage.(typist or gamer)

Current market Keyboard Controller which offers NKRO does not have Macro Functions, Unless they install 2 different controller or using their own controller.

Which you can see why Razer blackwidow has Macros feature but only 2KRO is supported. while Corsair Vengeance K90 Keyboard has different controller on the Macro Buttons.(Can't confirm for Corsair using 2 controller, But the 18 Macro buttons are using membrane key, so i assume they are using a different Controller to support the Macro keys)



Unless you decided to mod yourself, i'm thinking about installing Chameleon Controller on the keyboard that i work on. but still considering.

Edited : Fix Typo.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 12 2011, 06:17 PM

yes, but we will always say the lowest possible combination.

we certainly doesn't want to get screwed by user said this keyboard only 2KRO because some key doesn't work.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Nov 12 2011, 06:46 PM

for me, it is WASD, R , CTRL. i found out CTRL + R is very important to me, because i always crouch to reload in corner.

i cursed and toss my membrane keyboard few years back when i'm in a situation where i press hold CTRL + W + TAB and pressing R to reload and it did not register/work.

CTRL is weird for crouch? hmm.. i didn't know that. I've been using CTRL for crouch since i play CS 1.0. recently adopted to C because latest games now set C as crouch stance. which doesn't require to hold the button.

i always crouch and move at the same time while pressing Tab button to opens up score board to look for player's position and death/kill area. map + scoreboard + good hearing = almost like wallhack