Hmm, lastly the price of Cherry G80-3000 at PChome dropped. Inpad had dropped the price month ago and so TAOBAO.
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=store&fun..._NO=DCAH21&tm=u

Filco
- After about a month of usage the keys are starting to get glossy
- Some large keys like backspace and shift are starting to squeak

you must be typing a lot.

Mine still normal so far.

80+ emails a day, pm box full within 2 days...yes there's a lot of typing action involved. But my membrane kb is flawless

Need to get white keycaps, o-rings, and grease up the stabilizers.

This post has been edited by CyntrixTech: Dec 24 2011, 12:25 PM

You should buy engrave key cap :-P

looking at something like this:


It must not fade. A whole set of machined aluminum cap powder coated black/white would resist my acidic hands

This post has been edited by CyntrixTech: Dec 24 2011, 12:39 PM

The picture not regular abs blank key cap?

Metal powder coat o.o“ dam hard cause too small too hang and worry it fall some when move Along oven.

Don't know what material is used on the cap. What keycap works for me? White/Black otaku that will never fade.

May be you can try pbt material key cap so far most people say it not that easy go fad compare regular8 abs type.

But problem is font printing that you need to chose. So I heard of dyesub and laser print on pbt only.

Honestly, you need doubleshot keycap, seriously, you need it.

If you use the keyboard alot, i would advice you not to get White Keycap, it's been majorly pain in the ass for me, when i use PBT White Engraved Keycap. Damn, the keycap becomes alot dirty.

Plus, i donno wtf insect, The insect always fly to my white Keycap and begin to "pee" on my keycap, making yellow spot that cannot be wipe off, need to take the keycap and wash and brush with tooth paste.(like brushing your teeth morning and night). Yellow spot are pain in the ass to remove honestly.

Btw, i order additional few sets of Old Doubleshot Cherry Keycap from Taobao, i'm expecting them to reach January, i'll post some picture when i receive them. might as well share them with some keyboard enthusiast here that have not collect doubleshot keycap set before.

I'll clear up some misunderstanding here.

ABS Material Font Printing Available Method - Pad Printed, Laser etch, Doubleshot.
ABS cannot use Dye sublimation method, because they would melt/deform in the process.(due to plastic nature that does not have high temperature resistant)
But they do have a advantage of Doubleshot injection method because of their heat resistance is low, making it much easier to work with.

PBT Material Font Printing Available Method - Pad Printed, Laser etch, Dye sub.
PBT cannot use Doubleshot Method, because they are too hard to work with, and the fact that they have high heat resistant, as well as unpredictable shrink when keycap cool down.
It's a shame that PBT cannot use Doubleshot, but they still has the privileges of being able to have Dye Sublimation Printing Method. But it's also making them one of the most expensive combination(expensive material + expensive printing method = you pay for the "EXPENSIVE")

But if you wanted to strictly talk about Keycap Durability, Doubleshot still takes the trophy, mainly due to the key that they have higher contrast and much more durable printing than Dyesub, If keycap has become Shiny, you can just use a sandpaper to get back the texture you wanted.
But you cannot use the same method to PBT Dyesub, mainly because of their Dye printing Penetration is not deep enough to allow you to do sanding to get back the texture, if you do sand with it, the color will slowly loses the contrast, and finally faded ultimately after 2~8 years of usage.(Dye Sub Printing heavily depends on dye penetration on the keycap, if it's deeper, it will last longer)

For Laser etch method, both ABS and PBT can be Laser etch, but the difference is that, ABS will have White Color Font(Burnt Mark) from Laser etch.
But on PBT, it is also because of their high heat resistant, They took a bit longer, and have Yellow/Gold Color Font(Burnt Mark)
(they are from my speculation and from what i readed, if someone has more accurate information, please provide it)

There is also some information regarding to ABS plastic, that they have mix some chemical/material into ABS plastic in order to make it's laser etch to have White Color Font. (i forgot i where i readed this information)

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Dec 24 2011, 02:01 PM

From my own pbt green key cap, it is light dark burning from laser. Not sure about black pbt.

And wasd keyboard their laser only can do black print on other color key cap but white on black.

I got try ask white on blue abs but there can't do it.

I plan to order blue engrave abs from them on Jan

From what i readed, Black ABS Keycap has special material mixed with it, and cause to have have white print from Laser.

PBT has either gold/yellow on black or grey on other color keycap, as far as i know. KBC makes grey lasered on PBT.

I think it is the same reason for which no doubleshot black on black(infact there is) and also dye-sub black on black.
It will become completely black and they don't want to be a Captain Obvious.

Yesterday morning go kastam taken my stuff and had delivery this morning. finally has time to upload the photo taken yesterday.

I got ordered some Doubleshot ESC Keycaps for people that are interested in them, i will make a thread soon regarding to this.


This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Dec 24 2011, 03:36 PM

Do the kastam charged you anything on it?

I saw an expensive brand down there hehe

I though you buy 1 set double shoot >< who know escape key only Deng Deng Deng

nope, but they do ask "apa ke-tahi-an ini?"

1 Set double shot? nope, 6 set Cherry doubleshot keycap lol, btw, i will keep 2 set for myself. They are from taobao.

For Doubleshot Escape key, they are from Korea, which is not from Taobao. =X

They currently still in china and not yet deliver to me, because i tell my taobao agent to delay and ship together with Zinc alloy keycap., estimated january reach. Together with some Zinc Alloy Keycap.

The double shoot you order are regular black one that take down from cherry k.board?

nope, not black one, they are black on white and black on grey keycap.(white keycap and grey modifier keycap)

Ic see what price you selling when It reach. if OK consider get a set from you.