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post Nov 7 2011, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Nov 6 2011, 07:12 PM)
If you're really into twang you should go for Tele's.
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yea...i mean, twangy, brighter, cleaner than warm tone of duo humbucker.... .. take advantage of 3 single coil strat. smile.gif

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QUOTE(kucinghijau @ Nov 6 2011, 09:25 PM)
as per topic, best guitar:

1. i've ever used before - ibanez RG350M (own), PRS paul allender SE (friend's)
2. now - currently using epi '57 goldtop
3. soon - getting an LTD M-series  brows.gif (still within budget)
4. dream guitar - ESP Horizon-II (leaf/tongue headstock), jackson dinky DK2M hmm.gif
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Ok Imma reply properly:

Best I've ever got my hands on; 1995 MIM Fender strat (own), Gibson SG Classic (used to own), Larrivee OM-05E (own).

Wishlist; Any Custom Shop strat, or at least higher-end USA Fender strat, Gibson SG Standard, Higher end Martin OM.
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post Nov 7 2011, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 6 2011, 11:47 PM)
but some ibanez suck on clean la..i've tested PGM series 1 of the fixed bridge with PAF PRO pickups..fantastically clean n stunning...dun sum up all the ibanez suckz to the max..

squier california series IMO even worst, tuner out of tune, sounded thin n weak..bridge pickup bright n sharp like hell...but like i said..everybody got their own preferences
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well i never had problems with my tuning pegs. i like the bridge PU, but i don't really use it that much. but i have to get my hands on a better tele to compare the sounds. i really never had the chance to play a tele other than what i have right now smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Nov 7 2011, 10:52 AM)
well i never had problems with my tuning pegs. i like the bridge PU, but i don't really use it that much. but i have to get my hands on a better tele to compare the sounds. i really never had the chance to play a tele other than what i have right now smile.gif
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since tats the only TELE u have play or owned, thats the clear reason why u don't really use much the bridge pu or never had a real clear tone of a tele....cheap tele twang is freaking annoying twang honestly and many ppl just love it coz its twangy..but its an annoying sharp twangy not melo twangy..its different n many ppl dun get it
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 7 2011, 01:05 PM)
since tats the only TELE u have play or owned, thats the clear reason why u don't really use much the bridge pu or never had a real clear tone of a tele....cheap tele twang is freaking annoying twang honestly and many ppl just love it coz its twangy..but its an annoying sharp twangy not melo twangy..its different n many ppl dun get it
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just wondering dude, when you said cheap tele twang, do you mean squier ones or other copies?
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 7 2011, 01:05 PM)
since tats the only TELE u have play or owned, thats the clear reason why u don't really use much the bridge pu or never had a real clear tone of a tele....cheap tele twang is freaking annoying twang honestly and many ppl just love it coz its twangy..but its an annoying sharp twangy not melo twangy..its different n many ppl dun get it
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Agreed.

Take a look at this; Rhytm is Strat, Lead is Tele. Hear the real sound of twang.


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post Nov 7 2011, 03:06 PM

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Fender used to have a California series around 95-96. Swee Lee were selling these for around RM2500+GST if I remember correctly.
This one has a humbucker in the neck position and a 5-way switch. Nice comfy neck like an LTD but slightly beefier.

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QUOTE(brownman90561495 @ Nov 7 2011, 01:21 PM)
just wondering dude, when you said cheap tele twang, do you mean squier ones or other copies?
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other copies as well as low end squier...many other copies just try to make their own tele as twang as possible...but the original fender tele twangy and squier low end of other copies twangy is completely different...fender tele twangy is those melo twangy..very soft thin yet enters to ur ears correctly(amp must be good too), but those cheap tele twangy, its just too sharp especially bridge pickups and its annoying rather than enjoying....even some those change good pickups n all..it only mostly sounded nice when its low on volume but when it crack up louder..the twangy becomes sharps and noisy(not clean anymore, can feel distorted)

tats the main differences for good tele n bad tele
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 7 2011, 10:31 PM)
other copies as well as low end squier...many other copies just try to make their own tele as twang as possible...but the original fender tele twangy and squier low end of other copies twangy is completely different...fender tele twangy is those melo twangy..very soft thin yet enters to ur ears correctly(amp must be good too), but those cheap tele twangy, its just too sharp especially bridge pickups and its annoying rather than enjoying....even some those change good pickups n all..it only mostly sounded nice when its low on volume but when it crack up louder..the twangy becomes sharps and noisy(not clean anymore, can feel distorted)

tats the main differences for good tele n bad tele
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strangely i have tested teles MIA and squiers side by side and seem to be hard pressed to tell whats teh real difference. you can check there are a few videos online that point this inccident out. however not ALL squiers are such, and i do acknowledge that fenders can have a hit and miss with their guitar occationally.

that being said fender has a history of making very good guitars at very cheap prices, only thing you need to do is to search high and low for the good ones. MIJ (fugen series for one) on the downside they are also known to make very expensive guitars at with not too good results.

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2011, 04:09 PM)
strangely i have tested teles MIA and squiers side by side and seem to be hard pressed to tell whats teh real difference. you can check there are a few videos online that point this inccident out. however not ALL squiers are such, and i do acknowledge that fenders can have a hit and miss with their guitar occationally.

that being said fender has a history of making very good guitars at very cheap prices, only thing you need to do is to search high and low for the good ones. MIJ (fugen series for one) on the downside they are also known to make very expensive guitars at with not too good results.
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wah bro, honestly if u can't tell the differenes between MIA teles n squiers..u r having a big problem there...whats ur amp u using there?maybe u tested the too small amp
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 8 2011, 05:03 PM)
wah bro, honestly if u can't tell the differenes between MIA teles n squiers..u r having a big problem there...whats ur amp u using there?maybe u tested the too small amp
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its not suprising to get such a situation, there are videos on this also. i tested on a 5 watt fender champ, single vol control, single EQ. but on your issue, all i did when i had that problem was roll down the tone on the guitar or increase the vol on the amp to clip some light OD to clip the sharp parts. normally i do both so i get a high end roll off, warm but not muddy tone.

also if you are thinking how can it be, low end MIAs are not something to shout about made worse when fender is not known for consistant QC. the really good MIA fenders are not your normal ones, they are the Delux series, vintage Series which cost about a Gibson LP to get one. now when you are in that range, yes there is a considerable difference.

then again its not to say those series dont have good copies, early 90s japanese copies of the same models come at a fraction of the price but can fight and even beat in terms of tone and Quality.

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2011, 06:13 PM)
its not suprising to get such a situation, there are videos on this also. i tested on a 5 watt fender champ, single vol control, single EQ. but on your issue, all i did when i had that problem was roll down the tone on the guitar or increase the vol on the amp to clip some light OD to clip the sharp parts. normally i do both so i get a high end roll off, warm but not muddy tone.

also if you are thinking how can it be, low end MIAs are not something to shout about made worse when fender is not known for consistant QC. the really good MIA fenders are not your normal ones, they are the Delux series, vintage Series which cost about a Gibson LP to get one. now when you are in that range, yes there is a considerable difference.

then again its not to say those series dont have good copies, early 90s japanese copies of the same models come at a fraction of the price but can fight and even beat in terms of tone and Quality.
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good good..finally i've learn something new today..thanks bro for the information
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post Nov 8 2011, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Nov 7 2011, 10:31 PM)
other copies as well as low end squier...many other copies just try to make their own tele as twang as possible...but the original fender tele twangy and squier low end of other copies twangy is completely different...fender tele twangy is those melo twangy..very soft thin yet enters to ur ears correctly(amp must be good too), but those cheap tele twangy, its just too sharp especially bridge pickups and its annoying rather than enjoying....even some those change good pickups n all..it only mostly sounded nice when its low on volume but when it crack up louder..the twangy becomes sharps and noisy(not clean anymore, can feel distorted)

tats the main differences for good tele n bad tele
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i get you bro. as a guitarist myself of almost 2 decades, i think i pretty much know how a guitar if it sounds good or not. i love the sound of my squier tele. it passes my standards with flying colors. my bandmates love it too, and i haven't met someone who said otherwise.

i totally understand you on your description on those too sharp bridge PUs. i hate that sh1t too, and i've heard that in some cheap guitars (including my old entry level washburn x-series which i had to let go).


Added on November 8, 2011, 7:50 pm
QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2011, 04:09 PM)
strangely i have tested teles MIA and squiers side by side and seem to be hard pressed to tell whats teh real difference. you can check there are a few videos online that point this inccident out. however not ALL squiers are such, and i do acknowledge that fenders can have a hit and miss with their guitar occationally.

that being said fender has a history of making very good guitars at very cheap prices, only thing you need to do is to search high and low for the good ones. MIJ (fugen series for one) on the downside they are also known to make very expensive guitars at with not too good results.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2011, 06:13 PM)
its not suprising to get such a situation, there are videos on this also. i tested on a 5 watt fender champ, single vol control, single EQ. but on your issue, all i did when i had that problem was roll down the tone on the guitar or increase the vol on the amp to clip some light OD to clip the sharp parts. normally i do both so i get a high end roll off, warm but not muddy tone.

also if you are thinking how can it be, low end MIAs are not something to shout about made worse when fender is not known for consistant QC. the really good MIA fenders are not your normal ones, they are the Delux series, vintage Series which cost about a Gibson LP to get one. now when you are in that range, yes there is a considerable difference.

then again its not to say those series dont have good copies, early 90s japanese copies of the same models come at a fraction of the price but can fight and even beat in terms of tone and Quality.
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thank you for your inputs. il take note of these.

This post has been edited by brownman90561495: Nov 8 2011, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Nov 7 2011, 02:06 PM)
Agreed.

Take a look at this; Rhytm is Strat, Lead is Tele. Hear the real sound of twang.


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lead is Gretcsh nia doh.gif


Added on November 8, 2011, 11:53 pmOk, lead is Tele indeed

Tele though twangy, sounds warm and mellow

Strat is "glassy"

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 8 2011, 11:52 PM)
lead is Gretcsh nia doh.gif


Added on November 8, 2011, 11:53 pmOk, lead is Tele indeed

Tele though twangy, sounds warm and mellow

Strat is "glassy"
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that referal video is not exactly accurate.

the guy in the video uses a thinline tele, which is a "semi hollow" with widerange humbuckers and without the tele "metal" bridge. thinlines are lighter and due to their semi hollow nature produce a tone closer to semi hollow guitars like the white falcon and gibson es series however they are not fully semi hollow as the construction is more like a solid body with a chunk of wood taken out instead of an acoustic.

the normal vintage tele would be those with the "metal" bridge, these are known for their ice pick tone (treble heavy) that is super sharp and harsh to the ears if not tweaked well. however its the best and closest guitar to the lap steel (another very treble heavy) thus the reason why it was widely used in country.

regardless most people cant tell the difference between guitars, even on recording and on the simplest setups. its surprising that till now everyone is talking about teles yet never realize one of the best and most iconic rock solos of all time is played on a tele. most people associate "stairway to heaven" as a gibson LP 59' through a marshall Plexi but in true fact its played on a 58 tele and an supro amp.

also amps can change a tone of a guitar severely, which is one common mistake made by guitarists of any level (including myself). we go shop test a bass heavy ballsy guitar on amp X which is mid heavy and bright sounding, go home play on amp y which is mid heavy but bassy. realise that tone is muddy -> complain. (teles can be very very unforgiving on solid state amps on high volumes)
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Hrmm interesting.

Can you provide us a more accurate referral video Mr. +3kk!?

Err typing ur name with question mark makes me look as if I'm mad or something. Haha. biggrin.gif
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but Strats with their signature glassy tone is easiest to recognise on recordings tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2011, 06:12 PM

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Didn't knew strats have glassy tone. Other makes can have that too, with right pups, right amps, right eq and of course right hands (lefty? also can rclxms.gif )
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QUOTE(Lucidus @ Nov 9 2011, 02:22 AM)
Hrmm interesting.

Can you provide us a more accurate referral video Mr. +3kk!?

Err typing ur name with question mark makes me look as if I'm mad or something. Haha. biggrin.gif
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its not too hard to get a video featuring the "tele" twang, just look for blues guitarists or country rock guitarists with a preference of clearner and sharper tunes.

those instructional videos normally come out the best


QUOTE(regiuseven @ Nov 9 2011, 06:12 PM)
Didn't knew strats have glassy tone. Other makes can have that too, with right pups, right amps, right eq and of course right hands (lefty? also can rclxms.gif )
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no, try making an ibanez rg sound like a strat or a gibson lp, youd have a tall task

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