Well now, did you guys notice that Valve is pooling people already ?

Sort of like divisions in SC2..

After your done with the survey, it tells you that everyone based on how they answer that survey will be put into some kind of pool to determine thier level of experience during beta...

Anyone whos like a pro/experience player gets to be with the same kind of species during the beta....would be interesting to see how it all plays out !

lol why did I have to be honest during that survey.....I'm gonna be with all the Ah bengs and have a great rage induce time now with them lol

I think half of you guys don't get how the mechnics of Stats works (Mostly in HoN and not LoL cause its a different type of mechanic, DOTA has no stat tracking as far as I know)

These guys:

Supports/Gankers/Tanks = less kills more assist + deaths...

vs

These guys:

Carries, Burst Casters

When it comes to a real HoN/Dota game its always about overall meta game (aka how many kills my team did at the end of the game, how much gold earned overall, who earned the least and also who does most assist + warding)

Doesn't mean that anyone with bloody high kill count = good

Usually these players are the ones who actually fuking play the game properly (aka initiate, gank and provide buff/support spells) without them its pretty much GG for any team based engagement.

So lets look at HoN and how they track the stats....long ago there was only K/D which usually is reflected by the hero use % counter

Sometimes people who only pick cheap heroes like fayde, Witchslayer, pyro, thunderbringer, dampeer, deadwood and etc (and use them well) have high K/D ratio (2.0 or w/e) that means they are good at doing what they do (killing)...doesn't mean they are good players.

Sometime later when they introduced the new HoN 2.0 stat tracker, they implemented the new K/D/AsT ratio...<<<< THIS FOR FK SAKE IS VERY IMPORTANT...EVEN MORE THAN FUKING K/D....you know why ?

Cause it explains to you who the hell is playing like a teammate and actually cares about Winning more than getting thier stupid kills....example: 4/5/15
THe old system would register this as (0.7/1) undert he K/D stats

From any idiots who view those stats consider them as rubbish and useless....however to a real pro (someone who looks for teammates)

4/5/15 would = to 2.4/0.8 or something (K,A/D ratio) which is so much more appropriate and shows that that player is conpitent (not an ahbeng)

So if you guys say that....O I died so much but I asist and play support...so my deaths = my overall play style bla bla......you tell me your K,A/D b4 you even try using that a reason for failing....cause honestly players who have 0/8/0 are pretty much useless....vs players with 0/8/20

Furthermore if anyone doesn't understand what a role of a initiator/Ganker is...I suggest you don't use them cause your role isn't to die...its to start the fight and get out......if you cant get out take 1 of them with you b4 dieing...(rule of use)


If DOTA2 uses this system I'm pretty sure where the line of pros and noobs are.....cause frankly alot of players don't understand this system very well, especially in HoN.....Players only see PSR and K/D when in fact K,A/D is the more important one. I rather get into a game where theres like full implementation of assisting than just killing shit.

Sorry saw 2 many weird excuses about not playing well and complaining about how they play support role and sucking at it while using pointless reasoning to explain thier actions.

Which is why HoN and DOTA 2 interface looks so damn similar (score sheet shows exactly the samething, which is META info) cause it works

The LoL version is more detailied (graphs etc) but i preffer HoN's version

Also as an added bonus in HoN....in MMR games you get to have extra silver for performing the best in all types of roles:

Highest Assist

Highest Ward placement

Highest Kills

I got 30+ silver sometimes for doing all three roles (of course I got extra for taunting and leveling up but still lol)

and usually the best players have this High K and A stats (if you find someone on the top 10 with this you can tell that guy really is super good, especially when thier K/A is 1.1)

I seriously hope that with w/e mechanics they have in DOTA 2, they also track saving someones ass and also sacrificing/denying enemy kill

Those would be extra bonus and would win me over to play DOTA 2

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Added on November 2, 2011, 6:18 pmlol not reffering to you, reffering to people who use what I just stated as an excuse to pretend they are playing properly when they aren't (very big difference)

This post has been edited by Leo3010: Nov 2 2011, 06:18 PM

IMO, only Friends (people you really know and have known to be active in playing DoTA games or HoN games) should only get those extra keys...


Anyone else whos asking (cause they can't wait or didn't fill in that survey) shouldn't even ask or deserve to get a key until the game is in open beta...

Why ? Cause of this:

1) Ruins the fun for people who actually care about the game

2) Don't even beta test the game and want to dive in so they can brag (wtf are you even asking for the game ?_

3) They can't be bothered to wait thier turn since they don't understand what 'Pooling' means (seriously if you don't read the 'clause' at the end of the survey, why de hell you think you deserve the key?)

So guys who have the keys atm (with extras) Don't Distribute them to idiots who beg and ask (even if they offer money) cause they will fk up the game and anyone else who actually wants a good game from Valve on release <<< understand how this works PLZ

Lol, you must be one of the only person in the entire world who uses this type of ID, perfect thing to use since no1 can either steal or copy that name lol

Looked at my inbox....O look I got it today at 830am....yay XD

lol, guese some people really desperate for keys... if you guys want I know someone whos selling it for 60 USD <<< definitely not worth that ammount trust me.

Protip: Don't buy the keys <<<<<Its (and I seriously mean it) a BETA <<<<<


there are bugs alot of minor mechanics issues, furthermore its not the final product....if you pay 60USD for this......seriously smack yourself in the head cause you just got trolled

Are you guys serious about a game tonight ? since Valve introduce spec mode to dota, its seriously become a spectator sport lol

Place time and channel here so we can all join

Hey I can add to the list also


A Potm which doesn't use ulti for escapes or ambush(occasionally miss shots that are only 2 feet away)

Pugna which wants to solo mid but doesn't buy the right items for mid

A Bloodseeker which doesnt know how to last hit

A non carrying Sven that doesn't know how to stun or buy blink dagger

a Soloing Shadow Fiend from, start he mid lanes alone and until the end still solos gets gank and blames team XD

lol ? this some how reminds me of that old Wc3 banlist program....how many of us here remember that XD

Yes, alot of heroes are still missing...


Luna

Banshee

Lancer (cannot remmber his full name, the guy who can make clones)

Geomancer (the guy who can have multiple bodies and looks like a pig)

The Strength carry pig (which i also cannot remmber what his name was, his HoN copy is Armadon)

Just to name a few.

Lol that Spanish Tiny isn't so bad.

Earlier today I met a couple of people on SEA who have yet to even understand DOTA 2, or have never touch DOTA b4 in thier lives.....

Doesn't that make you guys who have played dota b4 jealous ?

Someone who hasn't touch a dota game b4 yet gets the beta XD

The matchmaking for groups are only for two players atm, so its not like its working properly in the first place lol

Info on page 1 of this thread..have a read it wil enlighten XD

5 mins is a freaking long time dude.....unless you want 10 mins which feels like 1 hour ingame time...