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 DOTA2 V2, The sleeping dragon wakes

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post Nov 2 2011, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:46 PM)
Well now, did you guys notice that Valve is pooling people already ?

Sort of like divisions in SC2..

After your done with the survey, it tells you that everyone based on how they answer that survey will be put into some kind of pool to determine thier level of experience during beta...

Anyone whos like a pro/experience player gets to be with the same kind of species during the beta....would be interesting to see how it all plays out !
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Hurr hurr. Luckily I put my stats somewhat low in the survey. Can play with casuals good enough d. biggrin.gif

EDIT: I'm sure got many ahbengs purposely inflate their own achievements in the survey. sweat.gif

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post Nov 2 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:59 PM)
lol why did I have to be honest during that survey.....I'm gonna be with all the Ah bengs and have a great rage induce time now with them lol
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Later you see all those ahbengs who claim they get 30 kills per match with 0 deaths with you liaw. tongue.gif

Then you check see.
Main hero: Sniper. sweat.gif
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Nov 2 2011, 01:24 PM)
the k/d is never a good indication since its dependent on what hero u're using and what role u're playing in the team

btw fingers cross that i will get my key lol
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My K/D always negative if I use support hero. tongue.gif (Prime offender is my Crystal Maiden.)
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post Nov 2 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 06:01 PM)
I think half of you guys don't get how the mechnics of Stats works (Mostly in HoN and not LoL cause its a different type of mechanic, DOTA has no stat tracking as far as I know)

These guys:

Supports/Gankers/Tanks = less kills more assist + deaths...

vs

These guys:

Carries, Burst Casters

When it comes to a real HoN/Dota game its always about overall meta game (aka how many kills my team did at the end of the game, how much gold earned overall, who earned the least and also who does most assist + warding)

Doesn't mean that anyone with bloody high kill count = good

Usually these players are the ones who actually fuking play the game properly (aka initiate, gank and provide buff/support spells) without them its pretty much GG for any team based engagement.

So lets look at HoN and how they track the stats....long ago there was only K/D which usually is reflected by the hero use % counter

Sometimes people who only pick cheap heroes like fayde, Witchslayer, pyro, thunderbringer, dampeer, deadwood and etc (and use them well) have high K/D ratio (2.0 or w/e) that means they are good at doing what they do (killing)...doesn't mean they are good players.

Sometime later when they introduced the new HoN 2.0 stat tracker, they implemented the new K/D/AsT ratio...<<<< THIS FOR FK SAKE IS VERY IMPORTANT...EVEN MORE THAN FUKING K/D....you know why ?

Cause it explains to you who the hell is playing like a teammate and actually cares about Winning more than getting thier stupid kills....example:  4/5/15
THe old system would register this as (0.7/1) undert he K/D stats

From any idiots who view those stats consider them as rubbish and useless....however to a real pro (someone who looks for teammates)

4/5/15 would = to 2.4/0.8 or something (K,A/D ratio) which is so much more appropriate and shows that that player is conpitent (not an ahbeng)

So if you guys say that....O I died so much but I asist and play support...so my deaths = my overall play style bla bla......you tell me your K,A/D b4 you even try using that a reason for failing....cause honestly players who have 0/8/0 are pretty much useless....vs players with 0/8/20

Furthermore if anyone doesn't understand what a role of a initiator/Ganker is...I suggest you don't use them cause your role isn't to die...its to start the fight and get out......if you cant get out take 1 of them with you b4 dieing...(rule of use)
If DOTA2 uses this system I'm pretty sure where the line of pros and noobs are.....cause frankly alot of players don't understand this system very well, especially in HoN.....Players only see PSR and K/D when in fact K,A/D is the more important one. I rather get into a game where theres like full implementation of assisting than just killing shit.

Sorry saw 2 many weird excuses about not playing well and complaining about how they play support role and sucking at it while using pointless reasoning to explain thier actions.
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If you're referring to me, no, I wasn't complaining. I was remarking on more how the K/D does not reflect how I play the game. (which is more of support caster than anything.)
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post Nov 4 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(friendly_ip @ Nov 4 2011, 07:41 PM)
I have joined HON beta 2 years back, i feel like HON beta players community > dota2 beta players community.
Flamers and leavers are always there z
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Considering the original community of DotA, you shouldn't be surprised. There are good reasons why some people consider DotA to be a cancer to the Warcraft III community.
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post Nov 5 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Nov 5 2011, 03:31 PM)
Got leaver in most of the game I play. Attitude so far, got 1 or 2 belum start game already say enemy too pro, lose already =.= And some flaming etc but me and my friends on steam voice so we dont bother them so much.

So you will expect something like Dota when more people get into beta later on.
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This is why I always play with a full team of friends on my twilight years of DotA gaming. Saves a lot of headache.
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post Nov 6 2011, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Zephro @ Nov 6 2011, 10:27 PM)
People on your team = Never ward, except for you
People on the other team = Ward so much like it's maphacking
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You pretty much summed up the typical DotA pub game. tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2011, 12:37 PM

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Can add me d. HAHAHAHA!

EDIT: Oh wait, need to download. DAMN!

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post Nov 12 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Nov 12 2011, 09:08 PM)
Played a game with idiots,Teach them advice them what to do,bash me back "Hey i know how to play ok?"
Then show me 2/8/5,I assist more than that idiot and he complain why anti mage no help gank.
f*** you Mezza,MithJump f***ing SC2 player go puck urself in Starcraft Dota!
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This reminds me so much of my pub Dota experience.
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post Nov 13 2011, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(dwks @ Nov 13 2011, 01:31 AM)
guys, what do you think about shop in dota2?
Personally, I prefer the old dota shop.
It will liven up the dull and boring fountain we have on dota2 and is easier to shop for me.
Right now, i have to keep browsing for the right items, plus Im not familiar with the item icon!
I dont know, maybe we could have both for newbies and longtime gamers?
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The shop is clearly a placeholder. It has no animation. (Unlike the secret shop.)

I wouldn't read too much into things in the beta just yet. Now, I'm just playing with bots, getting used to the item shops and QWER bound skills. tongue.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(hard2k @ Nov 13 2011, 10:21 PM)
anyway this week i intend to make friendly match between us lyn members in practise match anyone intrested?
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Time please. smile.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Nov 13 2011, 11:23 PM)
im bad .. lol
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No la. You guys were pretty decent. (Lose because of early feeding.)

I'll admit my teammates are better at teamwork than I hoped. smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Nov 13 2011, 11:34 PM)
Yeap , your mates are all good. Sticking together like sticks with UHU , lol.
I had 2 secs delay for that game, do you experienced any ?

No Oceania server for the game ?
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None that I can feel. Then again, I'm used to playing with a slight lag. About 0.5s or so.


QUOTE(lightonokira @ Nov 13 2011, 11:56 PM)
now playing with Medick
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My CM feeder this match. tongue.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Nov 15 2011, 09:52 AM)
what time ?
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Yeah time. time to feed. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(hard2k @ Nov 15 2011, 03:30 PM)
Time 8pm maybe?
early a bit can play lots of game biggrin.gif
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Good also. (Got something to do at 10pm or so, so just nice to play one or two games before going. smile.gif )
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post Nov 15 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Nov 15 2011, 03:49 PM)
your turn to feed meh ? biggrin.gif
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of course. I feed every match what. tongue.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Nov 15 2011, 04:42 PM)
You havent gone through some1 who ask for mid then feed the mid until lvl10 and run to your lane and ask for switch lane,then you iz lvl5 against a lvl10 mid Jakiro.
or
QOP with 0/7/0
Veno that complain about your carry ksing all the hero.
ES that blink in to die.
DK that has less than 1.4k hp and your support hero has 1.9khp
Warlock that want to play juke and let riki backstab free hit him around the tree.
Leviathan that is a meatshield and always ravage at the last minute to save his own skin.
Anti mage that has only 900 hp in a 50min game.

more to add to the list
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Sounds like the average DotA pub game. This is why we play with friends. Not with cina ahbengs know-it-all.
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post Nov 15 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Nov 15 2011, 05:31 PM)
I thought you already own a beta key  mad.gif
Play with friends but can only bring one friend to a game and there is still 3 more idiots,sadly not just (Insert Race) ahbeng know-it-all but thai,viet.pinoy.indon,australian,singaporean more to add to the list.
Everytime i see them i think my heart beat increase ten fold....
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True. I used to play in a Msian private server so it was mainly cina ahbengs for me. Still bad enough though. rolleyes.gif

It is games like these which I used to troll by playing techies.
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post Nov 15 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 15 2011, 05:36 PM)
lol ? this some how reminds me of that old Wc3 banlist program....how many of us here remember that XD
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*raises hand*
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post Nov 15 2011, 10:59 PM

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Bleh, only managed to get online now. I wonder if still got game or not.

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