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 DOTA2 V2, The sleeping dragon wakes

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post Nov 2 2011, 01:59 PM

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they already announce to release next year right?

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post Nov 2 2011, 02:09 PM

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Rofl I was in class when I got pm from Jigoku. Anyway taking the survey now, lets see whether I can even get beta key this way.

EDIT: Confirm I cannot even get into first wave cause I never really touched Dota because of the community, and also the fact that I wasn't fond of going to CC with my friends during secondary school era.

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post Nov 2 2011, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Nov 2 2011, 01:56 PM)
only 2 more months i dun think thats gonna happen
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post Nov 2 2011, 02:30 PM

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unifi 5mbps should be under what on the steam connection speed?
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post Nov 2 2011, 02:38 PM

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i guess shud be Cable/Fiber or DSL/T1...doesn't matter much i think...
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the Steam survey detected mine as Windows Vista but im using Windows 7, hope it dosent make any difference tongue.gif
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woah...i just heard the news!!! thumbup.gif
i love how we get 2 extra keys if got invite...time to persuade my fren to go dota again... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 2 2011, 04:47 PM

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Hey guys, anyone receive email about Dota2?

it ask me to take a survey via steam and it didn't do anything.. .

i check before clicking is not a spam one... .
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QUOTE(shojikun @ Nov 2 2011, 04:47 PM)
Hey guys, anyone receive email about Dota2?

it ask me to take a survey via steam and it didn't do anything.. .

i check before clicking is not a spam one... .
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=46421825

or it's just the previous page...
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QUOTE(justnits @ Nov 2 2011, 04:59 PM)
haha nvm found it on steam forum smile.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 2 2011, 02:30 PM)
unifi 5mbps should be under what on the steam connection speed?
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i put 2Mbps for mine
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post Nov 2 2011, 05:55 PM

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Dota 2 should implement a feature to automatically ban people that leave halfway of the game without a reason smile.gif
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I think half of you guys don't get how the mechnics of Stats works (Mostly in HoN and not LoL cause its a different type of mechanic, DOTA has no stat tracking as far as I know)

These guys:

Supports/Gankers/Tanks = less kills more assist + deaths...

vs

These guys:

Carries, Burst Casters

When it comes to a real HoN/Dota game its always about overall meta game (aka how many kills my team did at the end of the game, how much gold earned overall, who earned the least and also who does most assist + warding)

Doesn't mean that anyone with bloody high kill count = good

Usually these players are the ones who actually fuking play the game properly (aka initiate, gank and provide buff/support spells) without them its pretty much GG for any team based engagement.

So lets look at HoN and how they track the stats....long ago there was only K/D which usually is reflected by the hero use % counter

Sometimes people who only pick cheap heroes like fayde, Witchslayer, pyro, thunderbringer, dampeer, deadwood and etc (and use them well) have high K/D ratio (2.0 or w/e) that means they are good at doing what they do (killing)...doesn't mean they are good players.

Sometime later when they introduced the new HoN 2.0 stat tracker, they implemented the new K/D/AsT ratio...<<<< THIS FOR FK SAKE IS VERY IMPORTANT...EVEN MORE THAN FUKING K/D....you know why ?

Cause it explains to you who the hell is playing like a teammate and actually cares about Winning more than getting thier stupid kills....example: 4/5/15
THe old system would register this as (0.7/1) undert he K/D stats

From any idiots who view those stats consider them as rubbish and useless....however to a real pro (someone who looks for teammates)

4/5/15 would = to 2.4/0.8 or something (K,A/D ratio) which is so much more appropriate and shows that that player is conpitent (not an ahbeng)

So if you guys say that....O I died so much but I asist and play support...so my deaths = my overall play style bla bla......you tell me your K,A/D b4 you even try using that a reason for failing....cause honestly players who have 0/8/0 are pretty much useless....vs players with 0/8/20

Furthermore if anyone doesn't understand what a role of a initiator/Ganker is...I suggest you don't use them cause your role isn't to die...its to start the fight and get out......if you cant get out take 1 of them with you b4 dieing...(rule of use)


If DOTA2 uses this system I'm pretty sure where the line of pros and noobs are.....cause frankly alot of players don't understand this system very well, especially in HoN.....Players only see PSR and K/D when in fact K,A/D is the more important one. I rather get into a game where theres like full implementation of assisting than just killing shit.

Sorry saw 2 many weird excuses about not playing well and complaining about how they play support role and sucking at it while using pointless reasoning to explain thier actions.
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post Nov 2 2011, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 06:01 PM)
I think half of you guys don't get how the mechnics of Stats works (Mostly in HoN and not LoL cause its a different type of mechanic, DOTA has no stat tracking as far as I know)

These guys:

Supports/Gankers/Tanks = less kills more assist + deaths...

vs

These guys:

Carries, Burst Casters

When it comes to a real HoN/Dota game its always about overall meta game (aka how many kills my team did at the end of the game, how much gold earned overall, who earned the least and also who does most assist + warding)

Doesn't mean that anyone with bloody high kill count = good

Usually these players are the ones who actually fuking play the game properly (aka initiate, gank and provide buff/support spells) without them its pretty much GG for any team based engagement.

So lets look at HoN and how they track the stats....long ago there was only K/D which usually is reflected by the hero use % counter

Sometimes people who only pick cheap heroes like fayde, Witchslayer, pyro, thunderbringer, dampeer, deadwood and etc (and use them well) have high K/D ratio (2.0 or w/e) that means they are good at doing what they do (killing)...doesn't mean they are good players.

Sometime later when they introduced the new HoN 2.0 stat tracker, they implemented the new K/D/AsT ratio...<<<< THIS FOR FK SAKE IS VERY IMPORTANT...EVEN MORE THAN FUKING K/D....you know why ?

Cause it explains to you who the hell is playing like a teammate and actually cares about Winning more than getting thier stupid kills....example:  4/5/15
THe old system would register this as (0.7/1) undert he K/D stats

From any idiots who view those stats consider them as rubbish and useless....however to a real pro (someone who looks for teammates)

4/5/15 would = to 2.4/0.8 or something (K,A/D ratio) which is so much more appropriate and shows that that player is conpitent (not an ahbeng)

So if you guys say that....O I died so much but I asist and play support...so my deaths = my overall play style bla bla......you tell me your K,A/D b4 you even try using that a reason for failing....cause honestly players who have 0/8/0 are pretty much useless....vs players with 0/8/20

Furthermore if anyone doesn't understand what a role of a initiator/Ganker is...I suggest you don't use them cause your role isn't to die...its to start the fight and get out......if you cant get out take 1 of them with you b4 dieing...(rule of use)
If DOTA2 uses this system I'm pretty sure where the line of pros and noobs are.....cause frankly alot of players don't understand this system very well, especially in HoN.....Players only see PSR and K/D when in fact K,A/D is the more important one. I rather get into a game where theres like full implementation of assisting than just killing shit.

Sorry saw 2 many weird excuses about not playing well and complaining about how they play support role and sucking at it while using pointless reasoning to explain thier actions.
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I prefer no stats shit because like you said most them consider u a shit player by looking at K/D.
Oh wait..I am not a good player at all just passing through.
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post Nov 2 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 06:01 PM)
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True..during cm mode, my vs bought 20+ wards, only got normal boots and tp at end of the game with cs less than 5.

I tp to backup my teammate, i smoke up for ganks and I wards up enemy creep camp, disable their creep pull and also I swap teammate out so they live and I say hi to respawn timer. I kill like 1-2 and die like 10+ and we win the game.

I rank like lowest 2nd but I say I play my role well xD just that my friend say I play too pure support and end up no items which is not good =(

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QUOTE(Leo3010 @ Nov 2 2011, 06:01 PM)
I think half of you guys don't get how the mechnics of Stats works (Mostly in HoN and not LoL cause its a different type of mechanic, DOTA has no stat tracking as far as I know)

These guys:

Supports/Gankers/Tanks = less kills more assist + deaths...

vs

These guys:

Carries, Burst Casters

When it comes to a real HoN/Dota game its always about overall meta game (aka how many kills my team did at the end of the game, how much gold earned overall, who earned the least and also who does most assist + warding)

Doesn't mean that anyone with bloody high kill count = good

Usually these players are the ones who actually fuking play the game properly (aka initiate, gank and provide buff/support spells) without them its pretty much GG for any team based engagement.

So lets look at HoN and how they track the stats....long ago there was only K/D which usually is reflected by the hero use % counter

Sometimes people who only pick cheap heroes like fayde, Witchslayer, pyro, thunderbringer, dampeer, deadwood and etc (and use them well) have high K/D ratio (2.0 or w/e) that means they are good at doing what they do (killing)...doesn't mean they are good players.

Sometime later when they introduced the new HoN 2.0 stat tracker, they implemented the new K/D/AsT ratio...<<<< THIS FOR FK SAKE IS VERY IMPORTANT...EVEN MORE THAN FUKING K/D....you know why ?

Cause it explains to you who the hell is playing like a teammate and actually cares about Winning more than getting thier stupid kills....example:  4/5/15
THe old system would register this as (0.7/1) undert he K/D stats

From any idiots who view those stats consider them as rubbish and useless....however to a real pro (someone who looks for teammates)

4/5/15 would = to 2.4/0.8 or something (K,A/D ratio) which is so much more appropriate and shows that that player is conpitent (not an ahbeng)

So if you guys say that....O I died so much but I asist and play support...so my deaths = my overall play style bla bla......you tell me your K,A/D b4 you even try using that a reason for failing....cause honestly players who have 0/8/0 are pretty much useless....vs players with 0/8/20

Furthermore if anyone doesn't understand what a role of a initiator/Ganker is...I suggest you don't use them cause your role isn't to die...its to start the fight and get out......if you cant get out take 1 of them with you b4 dieing...(rule of use)
If DOTA2 uses this system I'm pretty sure where the line of pros and noobs are.....cause frankly alot of players don't understand this system very well, especially in HoN.....Players only see PSR and K/D when in fact K,A/D is the more important one. I rather get into a game where theres like full implementation of assisting than just killing shit.

Sorry saw 2 many weird excuses about not playing well and complaining about how they play support role and sucking at it while using pointless reasoning to explain thier actions.
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If you're referring to me, no, I wasn't complaining. I was remarking on more how the K/D does not reflect how I play the game. (which is more of support caster than anything.)
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QUOTE(sasaug @ Nov 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
True..during cm mode, my vs bought 20+ wards, only got normal boots and tp at end of the game with cs less than 5.

I tp to backup my teammate, i smoke up for ganks and I wards up enemy creep camp, disable their creep pull and also I swap teammate out so they live and I say hi to respawn timer. I kill like 1-2 and die like 10+ and we win the game.

I rank like lowest 2nd but I say I play my role well xD just that my friend say I play too pure support and end up no items which is not good =(
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Which is why HoN and DOTA 2 interface looks so damn similar (score sheet shows exactly the samething, which is META info) cause it works

The LoL version is more detailied (graphs etc) but i preffer HoN's version

Also as an added bonus in HoN....in MMR games you get to have extra silver for performing the best in all types of roles:

Highest Assist

Highest Ward placement

Highest Kills

I got 30+ silver sometimes for doing all three roles (of course I got extra for taunting and leveling up but still lol)

and usually the best players have this High K and A stats (if you find someone on the top 10 with this you can tell that guy really is super good, especially when thier K/A is 1.1)

I seriously hope that with w/e mechanics they have in DOTA 2, they also track saving someones ass and also sacrificing/denying enemy kill

Those would be extra bonus and would win me over to play DOTA 2


Added on November 2, 2011, 6:18 pm
QUOTE(Grif @ Nov 2 2011, 07:15 PM)
If you're referring to me, no, I wasn't complaining. I was remarking on more how the K/D does not reflect how I play the game. (which is more of support caster than anything.)
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lol not reffering to you, reffering to people who use what I just stated as an excuse to pretend they are playing properly when they aren't (very big difference)

This post has been edited by Leo3010: Nov 2 2011, 06:18 PM
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