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post Feb 1 2006, 10:45 PM

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ok, any neo2 plat user here with 2gb rams?
i cant seem to run at 1T at all, even on loose timing..
my rams is pc4000 3-4-4-8

i can run 1T on my epox, but not on neo2 sad.gif
so, definately not my memory controller


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solution identified..
put in proper ramslots, n 1T i get smile.gif

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post Feb 1 2006, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 1 2006, 10:45 PM)
ok, any neo2 plat user here with 2gb rams?
i cant seem to run at 1T at all, even on loose timing..
my rams is pc4000 3-4-4-8

i can run 1T on my epox, but not on neo2 sad.gif
so, definately not my memory controller
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probably is the design of the neo2 plat memory traces.. canot do anything much.. unless u can try increasing drive strength that i always hear abt
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post Feb 1 2006, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 1 2006, 10:45 PM)
ok, any neo2 plat user here with 2gb rams?
i cant seem to run at 1T at all, even on loose timing..
my rams is pc4000 3-4-4-8

i can run 1T on my epox, but not on neo2 sad.gif
so, definately not my memory controller
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hi, i'm using neo2 plat here as well, but no problems running with 2Gb ram. Mine's stable at 240Mhz with timing of 2.5-3-3-8. Anything higher than 245Mhz is not stable, even with loose timing of 3-4-4-8. I suspect it's the memory controller of your A64 proc. Early models have problems with 1Gb sticks. Later revisions, especially the venice cores fixed those problem. smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2006, 05:59 PM

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Agree with you on one exception... Abit boards can't run 2GB modules at 1T even using San Diego, Venice, Winchester or Manchester. I've tried fruitlessly on each of these and have to come to accept this fact.

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Feb 1 2006, 10:58 PM)
hi, i'm using neo2 plat here as well, but no problems running with 2Gb ram. Mine's stable  at 240Mhz with timing of 2.5-3-3-8. Anything higher than 245Mhz is not stable, even with loose timing of 3-4-4-8. I suspect it's the memory controller of your A64 proc. Early models have problems with 1Gb sticks. Later revisions, especially the venice cores fixed those problem.  smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2006, 07:58 PM

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that is only valid on the new abit boards.. previous boards shouldn't have problem with 1T..

i tried your board before jarofclay.. even 1gb have problem running 1T past 223mhz for me
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might it be bios glitch?
i dont think its the chipset problem..
no mod bios fixes for abit?

so far using 9nda3+ n neo2 plat, i kinda hate the ramslots for dual channel, as ram sit side by side, and its hot >__>

until i get a good psu, this baby wont be going high speed yet wink.gif
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Not sure since this issue is already well known and Abit couldn't do anything since 3 bios revisions up til today.

For heat issue, I use a 900rpm low speed 120mm fan to blow at the RAM. It's cool now at 35c-40c at load... wink.gif

QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 2 2006, 08:37 PM)
might it be bios glitch?
i dont think its the chipset problem..
no mod bios fixes for abit?

so far using 9nda3+ n neo2 plat, i kinda hate the ramslots for dual channel, as ram sit side by side, and its hot >__>

until i get a good psu, this baby wont be going high speed yet wink.gif
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post Feb 3 2006, 01:59 AM

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I managed to get 255htt @ 1T with my D43 previously. Even managed to run at 2.5-3-4-5 on it but with this 2GB UCCC kit, I can't run it anywhere at 2T even at Stock!! I should've gotten the DFI previously but then again, when I bought this board, the DFI was having issues with my D43.


QUOTE(babyelf @ Feb 2 2006, 07:58 PM)
that is only valid on the new abit boards.. previous boards shouldn't have problem with 1T..

i tried your board before jarofclay.. even 1gb have problem running 1T past 223mhz for me
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Feb 2 2006, 05:59 PM)
Agree with you on one exception... Abit boards can't run 2GB modules at 1T even using San Diego, Venice, Winchester or Manchester. I've tried fruitlessly on each of these and have to come to accept this fact.
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wow i never knew that. ohmy.gif Thanks for the info, i shall stay away from Abit boards the next time i plan to upgrade then. tongue.gif
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is double sided rams slower than single sided?
i notice my ch6's perform slower than my other single sided ciplak rams in sandra
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Feb 2 2006, 05:59 PM)
Agree with you on one exception... Abit boards can't run 2GB modules at 1T even using San Diego, Venice, Winchester or Manchester. I've tried fruitlessly on each of these and have to come to accept this fact.
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you mean abit an8 sli fatality mobo or every each board from abit? See what have you done to the poor fellow with the quote below.

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Feb 3 2006, 03:05 AM)
wow i never knew that.  ohmy.gif  Thanks for the info, i shall stay away from Abit boards the next time i plan to upgrade then.  tongue.gif
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My abit, yes it's abit av8 is running 2x1gb kvr at 1t.

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Review from Xbitlabs :

2GB of RAM: Do We Really Need That Much?
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post Feb 3 2006, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(alexus @ Feb 3 2006, 09:26 AM)
you mean abit an8 sli fatality mobo or every each board from abit? See what have you done to the poor fellow with the quote below.
My abit, yes it's abit av8 is running 2x1gb kvr at 1t.
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granted but i still dont want to take any chances tongue.gif
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Just wanna ask,is playing games at 1024x768 require 2GB RAM?

Im a heavy gamer,play latest games like F.E.A.R. Planning to buy Quake4 soon and will get a 6800GS next week.Im also use Photoshop CS2 but not frequent,only when boring and want to edit some pic
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does LGA775 mobo support 2GB of RAM?
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post Feb 4 2006, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Sim (2) @ Feb 3 2006, 10:57 PM)
does LGA775 mobo support 2GB of RAM?
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depend on what mobo your are using,currently most of the mobo support up to 4GB Ram
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post Feb 4 2006, 11:12 AM

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I have a question here,hope you guys can help to explain it,its about Kingston value ram and other high speed ram.

I noticed my kingston value ram have 4.4.4.12 & another one is 4.4.4.11
both run at dual channel at 5.4.4.12,Im not am i correct.

So how can I know which Ram is faster..I had read on the RAM handbook,it says lower timing mean faster?meaning "4.4.4.12" will run slower compare to a "3.3.3.8" that sort of things?

But one of the LYP shop fello told me thath a higher CL4 means the ram communicate faster with the system? sweat.gif

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post Feb 4 2006, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Feb 4 2006, 11:12 AM)
I have a question here,hope you guys can help to explain it,its about Kingston value ram and other high speed ram.

I noticed my kingston value ram have 4.4.4.12 & another one is 4.4.4.11
both run at dual channel at 5.4.4.12,Im not am i correct.

So how can I know which Ram is faster..I had read on the RAM handbook,it says lower timing mean faster?meaning "4.4.4.12" will run slower compare to a "3.3.3.8" that sort of things?

But one of the LYP shop fello told me thath a higher CL4 means the ram communicate faster with the system? sweat.gif
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That fella is a salesman, you should heve never trusted salesman on technical grounds.
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post Feb 4 2006, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Feb 4 2006, 12:35 PM)
That fella is a salesman, you should heve never trusted salesman on technical grounds.
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darn those LY seller...tat time im a newbie to pc stuff..thats why i duno..LoL

so my question is not answer yet?
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Feb 4 2006, 01:22 PM)
darn those LY seller...tat time im a newbie to pc stuff..thats why i duno..LoL

so my question is not answer yet?
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I tought I have stated the obvious biggrin.gif . Anyway, lower timing is simply better unless provided frequency of the DDR is much higher than default.

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