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 2.0l Car, Teana vs Camry vs Altis, which one a better choice?

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cybermaster98
post Oct 25 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Oct 25 2011, 02:20 AM)
If wan, wait for KIA Optima Hybrid come 2 malaysia....
break world record of 3.1L/100km, which clock 16k mileage per full tank!!(that's wat i heard...rumours...i dun belif it myself)

u can go for New Optima, Sonata, New Sportage too.....
and u wun knw when u nv acually drove it...do not hear 'rumours'....
engine noise n wind noise is not true, i drove New Optima, and Sonata b4...
maintenance wise, cheap....consider normal...if u wan expensive, Honda and Mazda...even Mitsu oso cheaper...

between these 3 cars(in current year), i will go for Teana...
Lets see when they will launch the Optima Petrol version first. So far, thats taking ages too. I dont see the Hybrid being launched anytime next year also.

But did anybody consider the Peugeot 508? I think compared to the upcoming Camry or Teana, the 508 seems a good deal (except for resale value and maybe after sales service standards).
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post Oct 25 2011, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(alvincch @ Oct 23 2011, 09:03 PM)
Hi All,
In dilemma of choicing my purchase to be.
I'm going for a 2000cc car & to choose between Teana, Camry or Altis?

Camry 2012 should I wait?
Im a Toyota man. But if you have the time to spare, put aside all negative stuff uve heard and go check out the Peugeot 508. I went last weekend expecting crap but i ended up spending about 1 hour viewing and analysing the car at the showroom. if ure in KL, i would recommend you meeting a salesguy by the name of Husaini at the Peugeot TTDI showroom. He's one of the few sales guys at Nasim who really knows the in's and out's of the 508.

Give it a try. U'll be surprised as this 508 is far superior than the other models that have come out from Peugeot in a long time. For a 1.6L car at RM 169K, it is impressive.

http://technews.tmcnet.com/news/2011/10/23/5877337.htm

Some of the specs in the 508:

1) 6 speed Tiptronic auto adaptive gearbox with Sports & Manual mode
2) 1.6L Twin Scroll High Pressure Turbo (THP) Prince engine with 156Hp, 240Nm
3) Latest generation Electronic Stability Program (ESP)
4) Anti Lock Braking System (ABS)
5) Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)
6) Intelligent Traction Control System (ITCS)
7) Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)
8) Anti Skid Regulation (ASR)
9) 6 airbags
10) Intelligent Airbag System (separate impact deployment and secondary impact protection)
11) Automatic Electric Parking Brake
12) 4 individual zone auto air-conditioning (separate temp controls for both rear passengers)
13) Colour Heads – Up Display (HUD)
14) Auto Adaptive High Beam System (camera activated)
15) Directional bi – Xenon headlamps with washers & auto levelling system
16) Rain sensing auto wipers
17) Paddle Shifters on Steering Column
18) 10 speaker JBL sound system with 500W surround sound amplifier
19) Arkamsys Audio Processing System (creates natural central acoustic ambience plus has Favour Listening)
20) Intelligent keyless entry with finger sensor and push start button
21) 8 way electric power seats with lumbar support for driver & front passenger
22) 7” HD multi function colour screen
23) 10 front & rear parking sensors with visual display
24) Available Space Management system (ASM) (for parallel parking)
25) Speed sensing electro hydraulic power steering
26) Premium leather

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 25 2011, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(carpathia @ Oct 24 2011, 04:18 PM)

me ? if i had the $$$$ i will buy the new VW passat - great engine ( same as audi A4 and great interior - very spacious and legendary german engineering)
You mean the Passat 1.8TSI? Great engine i agree but great interior? Very spacious? Correct me im wrong but you havent sat in the new Peugeot 508 rite? brows.gif
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post Oct 25 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 25 2011, 03:10 PM)
ar188 & me having luv & hate experience wth french babes b4..haha..so I think both of us knew what were those "Love & hate" feeling haha
Well my dad had 2 Peugeots before. The 304 gave him some problems while the 405 SRI was problem free. Only problem at that time was the lack of after sales support when MBF Peugeot closed shop.
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post Oct 25 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(UpCar @ Oct 25 2011, 03:21 PM)
your car is rubbish man
Common. Let's not have comments like this. Its not respectful to ar188 and Stimix. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 12:50 PM)
Im a Toyota man. But if you have the time to spare, put aside all negative stuff uve heard and go check out the Peugeot 508. I went last weekend expecting crap but i ended up spending about 1 hour viewing and analysing the car at the showroom. if ure in KL, i would recommend you meeting a salesguy by the name of Husaini at the Peugeot TTDI showroom. He's one of the few sales guys at Nasim who really knows the in's and out's of the 508.

Give it a try. U'll be surprised as this 508 is far superior than the other models that have come out from Peugeot in a long time. For a 1.6L car at RM 169K, it is impressive.

http://technews.tmcnet.com/news/2011/10/23/5877337.htm

Some of the specs in the 508:

1) 6 speed Tiptronic auto adaptive gearbox with Sports & Manual mode
2) 1.6L Twin Scroll High Pressure Turbo (THP) Prince engine with 156Hp, 240Nm
3) Latest generation Electronic Stability Program (ESP)
4) Anti Lock Braking System (ABS)
5) Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)
6) Intelligent Traction Control System (ITCS)
7) Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)
8) Anti Skid Regulation (ASR)
9) 6 airbags
10) Intelligent Airbag System (separate impact deployment and secondary impact protection)
11) Automatic Electric Parking Brake
12) 4 individual zone auto air-conditioning (separate temp controls for both rear passengers)
13) Colour Heads – Up Display (HUD)
14) Auto Adaptive High Beam System (camera activated)
15) Directional bi – Xenon headlamps with washers & auto levelling system
16) Rain sensing auto wipers 
17) Paddle Shifters on Steering Column
18) 10 speaker JBL sound system with 500W surround sound amplifier
19) Arkamsys Audio Processing System (creates natural central acoustic ambience plus has Favour Listening)
20) Intelligent keyless entry with finger sensor and push start button
21) 8 way electric power seats with lumbar support for driver & front passenger
22) 7” HD multi function colour screen
23) 10 front & rear parking sensors with visual display
24) Available Space Management system (ASM) (for parallel parking)
25) Speed sensing electro hydraulic power steering
26) Premium leather
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How is Nasim's after sales service so far? Any problems with the Turbo engine?

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post Dec 31 2011, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(wsmw @ Dec 31 2011, 12:47 PM)
Dont touch french cars. the maintenance will kill you. I used to own a 405 SRI but it keep giving me problems. first the gear box which is almost 20k at that time. then the ECU another 10k. I sold it off after that.

If you are comparing price, assuming around 150k( camry 2.0G) i would suggest you go for the new optima. it is much loaded in accessories than camry. however i have not test the car so cant say anything about the ride.
Well those are the older Peugeots i guess. We had 2 Peugeots in our family in those days and only 1 gave alot of problems while the other was problem free for many years. Plus back then there wasnt any reliable service centre for Peugeots. MBF did a hopeless job with after sales service. Most of the techies didnt know anything bout the car at all.

I think the current Peugeot 508 and Kia Optima deserves some consideration. Im too looking to upgrade and have been analysing various makes for the past year. But so far, the Kia Optima impresses me the most. BUt im still a Toyota man and will probably wait for the upcoming Camry before i make my decision. But after sales service and reliability will be issues high on my list.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 29 2011, 12:01 AM)
A German AFAIK will not earn 4 times as much as a Malay for the same sort of work, after all taxes are deducted. And even if, cost of living is higher. Want to buy a house? Expect to pay at least 100000 Euro... ours would probably sell for around 170-200000, and it's an average terraced house in a slightly above average area. Going out for lunch/dinner? 10 Euro minimum.

A young copilot may earn 4000 Euro, if you work at Tesco it's probably more around 1000. On average married people earn 2141 Euro, unmarried ones 1771 (in 2007). I agree that it's very tough here, and those ridiculous car taxes are unnecessary.

But at least many do have a car, no matter how awful it is, and they can afford to run it. You could consider a new good and expensive car a luxury good, at least you have something that can bring you from A to B at a reasonable cost (relatively affordable fuel), so you can get to work. Even if it is neither comfortable nor safe to get there. But what good is it to own a car, but not to be able to use it to go to work cause you can't afford the petrol?

Also the fuel prices go up way faster than the earnings.
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I dont think ure getting the point. You should NOT do any currency conversion. The only ppl that do currency conversions are tourists and those doing import/export business. You are working in a foreign country, earning in their currency and spending in their currency. Compare apple to apple and dont make conversions.

A typical engineer in a consultancy firm in UK earns about 4,000 pounds which is the same as a Malaysian earning RM,4000 in Malaysia. But how much does meals, transport, housing cost in UK? A person earning 4K pounds in UK can survive pretty well. Can a Malaysian earning RM4K survive pretty well in KL? Surely not.

Dinner costs 10 Euros. So what? How much does dinner cost in Malaysia? Isnt it the same or more expensive depending on where u eat? You can get a really good roast beef sandwich in Tesco Express London for only 1 pound. Can you get the same sandwich for RM1 in KL? U can barely get teh tarik for that price.

As i said before, when ure earning and living in a foreign country, do not do currency conversions. U are not a tourist.

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post Apr 21 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(joanna82 @ Apr 20 2012, 08:38 PM)
Anyway, a little out of topic but I know this sales person that's willing to give a good discount for the new Camry launching in June.
PM me for more details if you are interested.
The only discount that he/she can offer will be from his/her commission. And ive never heard of any Toyota salesperson offering discounts for a brand new model. So if this is indeed true, then actual bookings for the upcoming Camry must be quite low. Expected. Serves Toyota right for trying to sell a new car with 10 year old tech to Malaysians.

 

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