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 Peugeot 508, Ford Mondeo or VW Passat?, 3 good cars, 1 choice

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post Oct 23 2011, 10:42 PM

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i recently just booked the 508 during its launch day. Was looking for a car, booked the Kia Sportage first, waiting list was too long so I decided to try the D segment cars.

First car to test drive was the Mondeo. Before I went to the showroom with my wife, both of us were impressed with its features and looks through the videos and photos, but sadly it doesn't look as nice in real. My wife even went "WTF, s this the mondeo? don't lie!" (yea she couldn't believe it). But 1 thing for sure, the driving and handling was good. 0-100 was extremely smooth, very powerful engine. You can't even feel the gear change when you step on it. Love the memory seat too. The only thing that put we off was the look of the car, especially the back. And the rims that come with the car, looks... uncle. :/ Oh yes, the voice command thing was kind of pointless.

my wife was adamant that I wait for something else, I almost booked the Mondeo. In the next few days, I heard the 508 was launching. smile.gif I went to the showroom during the first day of its launch, I got to tell you, we both fell in love with it instantly. Don't judge the 508 through it's videos/photos, it doesn't justify it in real. Ask those who seen the 508 in real, and compare it with the Mondeo.

Test drive wasn't available, but overall I'm extremely happy with it's interior, the dash board..console (comes with GPS, map not available now but will be retro fitted next year), the rear seats with the quad zone aircond. Lights on the gear knob, the freaking cool door sensors- there's no button or what, it's a sensor. The LED has its own signature, looks like a dragonball tongue.gif instead of the boring Audi LED we've seen often on the roads.

Comparing the interior, exterior and the features of 508 vs Mondeo, Mondeo is being eaten alive by the lion. But won't be your cup of tea if you like powerful cars and you got to chip in 10k more, and less appealing interior and exterior. in terms of legroom / space, don't feel much difference between the 2. I'm around 175cm tall.

I've not seen the VW in real, so not comparing with it. In terms of pricing, PUG 170k, Mondeo 180k, VW Passat 190k.

My pick is obvious, 170k for a nice looking, comfortable and rich features D segment car. How often do you need to step on it, so a 1.6 turbo engine should be just fine, I'm a slow n chillax cruiser biggrin.gif Also I don't really think about the resale value, not like I'm going to change cars every 5 years. Only concern I have right now is the SC, but all 3 of the listed SC, haha, also so-so.

GL.

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post Oct 25 2011, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 01:57 AM)
I went to another showroom to see the Grey 508. I must say the more i see and sit in the 508, the more i like it. This time i brought some friends who were equally disappointed with the Passat 1.8. And they were really impressed with the 508. The specs in the 508 are truly top class. Sitting in the driver's seat surely gives u a false sense of driving a BMW 5 series or Audi.

Did u know it also has an Intelligent Airbag System? Only airbags at the point of impact deploy and you can also have secondary deployment for 2nd impact thanks to a power reservoir which lasts about 15 mins after first impact and fuel cut off. Cool eh?  brows.gif

The touch sensor on the doors are also really cool. Imagine locking and winding up your windows just by moving the palm of your hand across the inner door handle.  shocking.gif
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exactly. people really got to get into the 508 before commenting it's over priced / passat-mondeo is better etc. it's really nice, at least for me. smile.gif i booked the pearl white, meh now thinking whether i should get the haria grey instead. lol.
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post Oct 25 2011, 12:59 PM

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eh where in KL you saw the blue???
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post Oct 28 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 05:45 PM)
Nope. If uve read my previous posts, u would have seen that im not really impressed with the upcoming Camry. Quite disappointed. Plus i dont think im prepared to wait till mid next year. So yes im giving this Peugeot some serious thought. Go check out the car in person. Ull be impressed.
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i think you've already made up your mind, right? hehe. i can't wait to get the 508 now...got to wait till dec/jan =(
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post Oct 31 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Oct 29 2011, 06:19 PM)
Almost booked the car just now. But without a proper test-drive, I think its not a good idea to go all out blindly. So the SA suggested me to test a 3008 (same engine/gb but heavier). Acceleration is there albeit a bit of delay (turbo lag?), but still the gear shifting isnt smooth. Shifts feels jerky, even when not gunning the throttle. So I'm holding my horses.

But then the 3008 mileage is already 5k+ mileage and is not serviced (the spanner icon pop-up). So I asked for a 308 to test. 308 is 1400km, and feels smoother, but still the jerky shift can still be felt.

I'm confused now. Could this be same case as BMW 320d and 520d? Both uses the same engine and transmission. But in the 320d shifts are jerky while the 520d is silky smooth
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bro, this review might help wink.gif

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=370
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post Oct 31 2011, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Oct 31 2011, 09:48 PM)
Supposedly immediately upon loan approval (promised by SA). If not immediate, I'll just cancel it. Im taking the aluminium color. Interest rate is from 2.5 to 2.6. So I'm trying to get loan from multiple bank see which one offer the lowest rate.
Hopefully not la. I've visit some SG forum and so far all praises and no complains from owners, yet. Btw the 207 has really bad build quality. I've spent some time in the showroom to take a closer look at the 207. Everything inside looks pretty low quality, looks worse than proton
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eh immediately? i booked during launch.. loan already approved. sad.gif SA said got to wait till Dec/Jan. Let me know if you get your car, I'm going to scream at my SA.
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post Nov 2 2011, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(8772SS @ Nov 1 2011, 11:07 PM)
Hi,

Would like to say that I have booked a 508 myself. Aluminium. I have been looking for a D segment car for a few years. Have not found one until the 508. Was waiting for the Accord 2 years back and, when the car was launched, it was a total disappointment. The price was quite high and the car is basically "kosong". Conservative design, ugly rear light with the typical Japanese circular lights, and the "Ah Beng" transparent plastic light housing. There is a display screen which is getting common nowadays but no GPS, no DVD player - basically the screen is for the radio display. There is no trip computer which was a huge disappointment. I thought I was being a bit picky but my opinion was confirmed by a review in the Paul Tan website which compared the Accord to the Camry and the Teana. Basically, I thought that Honda Malaysia has been taking the local people for granted for offering a "kosong" car.

For the current Camry, it was quite a nice car but not nice enough for me to part with RM175k when it was first launched. I was looking forward to the new Camry but was a bit disappointed with the exterior. Looked so conservative. Very typical Japanese. Looking at the steering wheel, with the two round control knobs on each side, makes me cringe.

As for the Teana, the looks alone is enough to put me off. Furthermore, looking at the interior with the vertical dashboard, I can never see myself putting down the money for a Nissan. Nissan always give me the impression that the car is very "hollow" - with little sound insulation. My previous Nissan has a roof which transmit all the sound of the raindrops into the cabin.

I was quite impressed with the Madza 6 which is fully imported from Japan. The build quality is impressive. However, the price was in the RM 180k range so I thought it did not deserve any consideration, knowing the crazy car prices with the so-called AP system.

Quite disappointed with Japanese cars with the bulbous exterior instead of the sculptured look. The common circular rear light design favoured by the Japanese (and the Korean) as seen in the current facelift Altis and the Accord is tasteless, in my opinion.

Now to the 508. I have been following the 508 since it first appeared in the news. Saw a few on the road in Singapore a few months back. Was impressed with the claw design of the rear lights. Original, bold and interesting. Not the typical Japanese rounded lights or the boring shapeless rear light cluster.

The shape of the 508 is a bit conservative, I must admit, but still has the sculptured look of a continental car. The rear is impressive, though some reviewers said it looked plain. I like the way the boot lid integrates into the rear bumper. Looked so good as compared with some Japanese design.

The interior is of course impressive - almost the class of the Audi, BMW, etc. I like the head-up display on the polycarbonate screen. Something the Japanese will never come up with, I think. The two display gauges for speedometer and rev counter are impressive, clear as the optitron display in a Toyota. This is very important to me as I hate to see display which has uneven lighting. The keyless alarm is impressive. Another impressive feature is the silent interior, according to the reviewers. Well-manufactured cars should have good insulation. I understand that the current Accord is quite noisy because the insulation was reduced to save weight. The only slight disappointment is the bonnet release which is on the left hand side instead of the driver's side.

The doors are solid. But, to test further, I did the slam test on the doors with the windows winded down halfway. The sound is still solid without the glass panels rattling. I did the same for my current Toyota Altis and the glass rattles like hell. Very hollow sound when I slam the doors.

I did look at the Passat but with RM 185k for a plain-looking car, it is definitely a no-go.

Overall, quite satisfied and so I decided to book the car even without a test drive. We can cancel the booking without any penalty later on. This is my first continental car purchase. Yes, I have heard and read horror stories about the quality and depreciation of the continental cars. Not to mention the poor service from the service centres. But I was not impressed with the service centre of the Japanese cars either. When I had to change a steering problem in my Altis in Singapore, I had to go to the service centre 3 times before the problem was fixed. Similarly, I was not impressive with the Honda service in Malaysia for my Accord.

I thought about the 1.6 litre turbo engine for the 508. On paper, it does not looked very impressive. But, I understand that the unit was designed with inputs from BMW and it has won some awards as well. I don't drive fast so the engine should be more than adequate for me.

So, hopefully, the experience of getting a continental car will be a rewarding one.
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great! another 508 owner soon! Did your SA mention when you'll be getting your car? smile.gif
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post Nov 2 2011, 10:51 PM

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just to share this comprehensive review of the 508, too bad its in a language that we don't understand. but it shows alot of the 508 features, such as the directional lights etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IM-FBrzb5o&feature=related
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post Nov 2 2011, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 2 2011, 10:59 PM)
Guys, I got confirmation today. My car is coming next week rclxm9.gif Already registered with WWA xxxx plate rclxms.gif
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WOIIII HOW CANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN? hahaha, omg happy for you! smile.gif Which showroom you booked from?
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post Nov 3 2011, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 2 2011, 11:57 PM)
Kampung pandan. You?
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bangsar. =( nvm la.. wait wait! some booked 3 months before launch also can't get their 508 yet. zzz
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post Nov 3 2011, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 3 2011, 09:24 AM)
Bingo, the other buyer couldnt secure a loan smile.gif
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lucky you! =)
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post Nov 3 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 3 2011, 09:24 AM)
Bingo, the other buyer couldnt secure a loan smile.gif
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btw, did your SA give you anything? Discount? Vouchers? Smart tags? Etc?
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post Nov 21 2011, 03:11 PM

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my SA just called, car coming this / next week. Getting the chassis number from the allocation tomorrow. It's for the first batch of booking, pre-booking. Some guys didn't manage to get the loan so SA allocating it for me since mine has been approved.

Woohoo! =)
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post Nov 21 2011, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 21 2011, 03:13 PM)
I'm hearing the same thing from SA as well. Hope to get my aluminium colored 508 within this week smile.gif What color is yours?
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Pearl white rclxm9.gif
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post Nov 25 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 24 2011, 11:16 PM)
Huhu, car is coming out tomorrow in late afternoon. But too bad I'll be out of KL for a meeting with customer. Try to rush back before the showroom closes.

Btw, I'm getting free gifts. Hehe
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fuh receiving car on Saturday? Nice one! Haha I got to wait till next week sad.gif
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post Nov 25 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 25 2011, 07:01 PM)
Bro, here's a teaser laugh.gif
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OMG I HATE YOU.

How was the FIRST drive? biggrin.gif what free gifts you got? my SA damn kedekut one la.

reason i have to wait till next week is because the number I want is only coming out next week =(

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post Nov 26 2011, 02:08 AM

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haha i think the noise is probably the turbo engine....

yea im getting WWC 3XXX . hahahahaha so got to wait till next week. zz.

so what ur going to do next? tongue.gif im taking my 508 for a tint first to do list! going Jaya One for 3M tinting!~

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post Nov 29 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(cdubliew @ Nov 29 2011, 07:32 PM)
SPCX, did you get the same bunch of freebies as Sleepy?
Trying to see if all branches practicing the same or different.  rclxub.gif

TTDI seem to be very kedekut with their gifts, even the full fuel tank is being position as a super-duper-ultra-nice gesture that you should feel eternally grateful to them for it.    hmm.gif
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Got to ask my SA only he gives, lol. Getting full tank + smart tag, asked me to choose between smart tag or umbrella lol. biggrin.gif

But 1 thing I like about my SA is that he's a no nonsense man, doesn't make empty promises or give you hopes of getting the car earlier. When I first booked, he told me the car will only arrive Dec / Jan, if I'm ok then I book. Haha guess what, he pushed me to the first batch of cars! Was a good surprise smile.gif Does his job properly and quick, even the 2nd hand car dealer he introduced was a good lad, although the price was a lil low.

If you don't like sweet talk, and want an honest opinion, look for Leong from Peugeot Bangsar!
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post Nov 29 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Nov 29 2011, 11:48 PM)
Today i went to spare part shop to buy wear n tear parts for my altis. Talked to the experience shop operator about recent invasion of conti car in msia, he said nice to drive than japanese car but be prepared to fork out tons of money to maintain after 5 years. Msia weather is not suitable for conti car. He added further volks passat side mirror can cost up to 6k if damage n getting a new one. After listening his story, i called up my camry salesman. Guess what, he can overtrade my 5 years old altis at 63k excluding the current promo by toyata such as 1st year insurance 4.5k, free premium tinted 2.3k. Overall, i have about 14.8k discount. Dont u think is a good deal?


Added on November 29, 2011, 11:49 pmToday i went to spare part shop to buy wear n tear parts for my altis. Talked to the experience shop operator about recent invasion of conti car in msia, he said nice to drive than japanese car but be prepared to fork out tons of money to maintain after 5 years. Msia weather is not suitable for conti car. He added further volks passat side mirror can cost up to 6k if damage n getting a new one. After listening his story, i called up my camry salesman. Guess what, he can overtrade my 5 years old altis at 63k excluding the current promo by toyata such as 1st year insurance 4.5k, free premium tinted 2.3k. Overall, i have about 14.8k discount. Dont u think is a good deal?
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new camry is coming out next year, of course u're getting good deal bro wink.gif
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post Nov 30 2011, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 30 2011, 02:54 PM)
Erm, to be fair I'd like to say the sweet talk and all the problem I faced has nothing to do with my SA. There's some internal bickering within Nasim that leads to all the delays I'm facing.

Some escalation here and there, I get my car earlier smile.gif
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hey how's ur 508 doing? Im getting mine this Fri / Sat, going through Puspakom inspection now.. then Sunday sending it for 3M tinting!


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