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 Peugeot 508, Ford Mondeo or VW Passat?, 3 good cars, 1 choice

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post Oct 28 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:10 PM)
Just for comparison purposes, the current BMW 320i does the sprint in 8.2secs but that's expected for a 2L car rite?
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320i mana ada 8.2sec? More like 10sec+ la. The one you're talking about is the 320d.

About the wipers its at the right side of the steering wheel.

And to sonyman, I'm experiencing a honda accord 2.0 vti-l that undresses itself, interior wise. Car is 2010. So honda is not that good. And about the door close, toyota and honda sounds similar, ie LG fridge.

I'd prefer the more solid sound of merc and bmw. And the peugeot 508 sounds similar. I'm in a similar position to cybermaster actually. I'm worried about the after sales service.
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post Oct 29 2011, 06:19 PM

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Almost booked the car just now. But without a proper test-drive, I think its not a good idea to go all out blindly. So the SA suggested me to test a 3008 (same engine/gb but heavier). Acceleration is there albeit a bit of delay (turbo lag?), but still the gear shifting isnt smooth. Shifts feels jerky, even when not gunning the throttle. So I'm holding my horses.

But then the 3008 mileage is already 5k+ mileage and is not serviced (the spanner icon pop-up). So I asked for a 308 to test. 308 is 1400km, and feels smoother, but still the jerky shift can still be felt.

I'm confused now. Could this be same case as BMW 320d and 520d? Both uses the same engine and transmission. But in the 320d shifts are jerky while the 520d is silky smooth
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post Oct 31 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(spcx @ Oct 31 2011, 12:11 AM)
Thanks man, I've already booked a unit. Here's to wishing its a good car, as reliable as other european marque (europeans are more prone to breakdowns compared to japanese anyway laugh.gif)
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post Oct 31 2011, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 31 2011, 03:36 PM)
Whats your delivery time frame and what color did you choose? Interest rates?
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Supposedly immediately upon loan approval (promised by SA). If not immediate, I'll just cancel it. Im taking the aluminium color. Interest rate is from 2.5 to 2.6. So I'm trying to get loan from multiple bank see which one offer the lowest rate.

QUOTE(rcracer @ Oct 31 2011, 04:06 PM)
if they build it the same as my 207 here in netherlands, good luck, 20k km only car got plenty bunyi bunyi
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Hopefully not la. I've visit some SG forum and so far all praises and no complains from owners, yet. Btw the 207 has really bad build quality. I've spent some time in the showroom to take a closer look at the 207. Everything inside looks pretty low quality, looks worse than proton

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post Nov 1 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(spcx @ Oct 31 2011, 10:13 PM)
eh immediately? i booked during launch.. loan already approved. sad.gif SA said got to wait till Dec/Jan. Let me know if you get your car, I'm going to scream at my SA.
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Wow another potential 508 owner rclxms.gif. Anyway my loan approved already. SA says next week get car. If tipu me, I'm gonna bakar their showroom
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post Nov 2 2011, 10:59 PM

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Guys, I got confirmation today. My car is coming next week rclxm9.gif Already registered with WWA xxxx plate rclxms.gif
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post Nov 2 2011, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(spcx @ Nov 2 2011, 11:12 PM)
WOIIII HOW CANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN? hahaha, omg happy for you! smile.gif Which showroom you booked from?
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Kampung pandan. You?
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post Nov 3 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 3 2011, 08:40 AM)
He probably got a car which was cancelled by the previous buyer. Many such cases especially with new launches.
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Bingo, the other buyer couldnt secure a loan smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(spcx @ Nov 3 2011, 11:02 AM)
btw, did your SA give you anything? Discount? Vouchers? Smart tags? Etc?
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Unfortunately apa pun tarak. Just full tank of petrol upon delivery. Sigh, better than nothing la
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post Nov 3 2011, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 3 2011, 04:51 PM)
If those who's company pay for their fuel, then what can they give?  biggrin.gif

What color? Can you please take some pics and post here? Take the front, rear, side, dashboard and rear seats.
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Ok sure will do. Once I get the car. SA can't promise which day of next week. Just say next week. Btw mine is aluminium color.
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post Nov 9 2011, 04:21 PM

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Guys I got this feeling I'm not getting the car this week. As usual la, empty promises from SA. Now I'm hearing this AP thing.

Damn, should've opted for a recon E60 from naza as the price is similar to this. I hate waiting
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post Nov 9 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 9 2011, 04:37 PM)
I already told u Nasim cannot register any cars until they get clearance from JPJ. But it should be cleared by this week or early next week.
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Yeah, I've been told the same thing. I really wish I could get it by this week. But then, hmmm. Losing faith
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post Nov 9 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Nov 9 2011, 08:16 PM)
yo! anyone going to martrade center this weekend? Got test drive for 508, i believe so.

Hehe, anyone interested?
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According to my SA the test drive is still not confirmed coz all the 508 duty still not paid
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post Nov 13 2011, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Nov 13 2011, 07:16 PM)
so, anyone here went to go and test drive the 508? COTY in martrade has test drive.

Can feed back some info? Thanks
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Me, me, me. Having already bought the car, I cant help but to go there to get a taste of the car. I went there today at 1030am to test drive the car. Luckily not many ppl around 1030am. So just register and get the test drive immediately. But unfortunately the car is on trade plate, so cant drive out to open roads.

The test drive was only done in the car park area. There were 5 of us in the car, including the sales person. The car still feels powerful despite carrying 3x85kg+, 1x70kg+, and another 58kg passenger. Ride is quiet/smooth despite the 18" 235/45 tyres (but the car park pavement is still smooth). But the gearshifts isnt as smooth as i'd like it to be under hard acceleration (I'm comparing this to an accord 2.4's gearshift).

Sound insulation is pretty good. Can hardly hear the engine in the car. Steering is really light in tight corners. Feels like driving a much smaller car which is a plus point considering this car's bulky size. Overall, today's test drive has cleared some doubts I've always have before this. I'm relieved and confident to say my blind purchase (bought before test drive) has turn out to be a good one.

But then again, there's a final question mark which is the after sales service. Are nasim's service centers competent enough to maintain these cars? And also how durable/reliable will this car be in the long run?
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post Nov 14 2011, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 14 2011, 07:58 AM)
Bro, driving a car around in a parking lot hardly constitutes as a test drive. No way u can judge sound insulation or power by at such low speeds. At that speed, even a Wira will sound quiet. Get a real test drive later before you say ure confident. In saying that, i sure hope everything turns out fine as im also interested in the car.
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Accelerating to 50kmh-60kmh and slamming on the brakes as we ran out of road. For me I can feel the pull in the acceleration. Feels similar to accord 2.4. Which is why I say power wise its adequate. Nothing spectacular. Just adequate.

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post Nov 14 2011, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Nov 14 2011, 10:47 AM)
you are right, 240nm torque is comparable to 2.4liter car. only HP is lower, but i would assume you're not looking for topspeed kind of guy smile.gif as in over 220km/h
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You're right. I usually cruise at 130kmh. So for me, this 1.6L turbo offers more than enough. I supposed if 508 and accord 2.4 were to accelerate to 220kmh, the 508 would do it in a shorter time.

Anyway, the accord gearbox is a bit sluggish when it comes to response. Gun the throttle, nothing happens for 1-2 sec, then the acceleration kicks in. The 508 feels more instantaneous. But when it comes to deceleration, the accord downshifts more smoothly. The 508 feels kinda jerky when it downshifts on hard braking, feels kinda like a C230K with the gearbox set to Sports


Added on November 14, 2011, 9:49 pmGuys, come to think of it, although the 508 is a good car, NASIM is a really bad distributor. At first, ask me to pour in money then I'll get my car the moment everything is signed. But it's been 2 weeks+, still I'm getting the "duty not yet cleared" crap. I'm thinking of cancelling my purchase, but then for them to return my money, I supposed it will take donkey years judging from how things are going now.

I've been shown a car with a SOLD tag on it with my name there as well. But what's the point? It's mine but I dont get to drive it. What am I purchasing? Ferrari FXX? It's just a freaking french car.

First and last peugeot, thanks to NASIM. Delivery stage already this bad, gosh I could only imagine what after-sales service is like. Peugeot's brand name is doomed under NASIM. Should've just got myself a premium selection E90 or E60 instead of going through this crap

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post Nov 14 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 14 2011, 10:48 PM)
2 weeks + is still ok bro, plenty of other car companies where it takes up to 6 months for them to deliver the cars. One of them is VW, friend had to wait 6 months for their car. At least you get to see your car man.
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I know, but the thing that I cant stand is empty promises. If they told me will get in couple months then I'm ok, probably I wont even have placed money on it at all. But what I've been told is not what I'm getting. What I mean is, they've misled me through false information and it has affected my buying decision.

What I heard now is, there are a couple of 508's already cleared duty. But I can say mine is not definitely one of them
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post Nov 15 2011, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:35 PM)
Bro, cool it. Waiting a few extra weeks aint gonna hurt much. No car company is perfect. Did u hear about all the Ferrari 458 Italia's catching fire all over the world within a few months of being purchased? I heard they delivered the cars fast but got razed to the ground in double quick time too.

My point is, try not to make things sound worse than they actually are. To say u regret buying a car just cuz the delivery took a few weeks extra is a tad bit over the top dont ya think? It would show that u really didnt give the car much consideration in the first place since your judgement now is based solely on the delivery time.

Take it easy and dont sweat it. Many sales ppl at Nasim didnt even realise the delays they had to endure dealing with JPJ. It isnt entirely their fault. They promised you based on their best knowledge. But as u know dealing with Gov agencies can spring a few surprises.
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Was actually buying this car for my wedding, which is soon. Already told the sales person that I need the car by certain date, and yeah I was told it was do'able. But now? Hmm, doubt so.

Btw, your ferrari comparison is not that suitable in this case. Ferrari rushed their production, causing flaws here and there hence the fire. But my car is already there waiting for me, with my name and stuff on it.

Another thing, my argument wasnt about the car at all. It's been NASIM. All talk/promises and no delivery? As far as I know, people has been cancelling their order because they booked way before 18th Oct, which is the launch date. Early bird gets the worm? Definitely not in NASIM's dictionary.

I've also read in another forum, that due to KIA/Peugeot is actually under the same roof (NAZA), they're short of AP now, and gotta wait till 2012. Wow, the excuses of AP, duty etc etc. What next?
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post Nov 15 2011, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Nov 15 2011, 12:17 PM)
you should just get T&H or VW

they never short of APs
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Already had experienced t&h, but you sure about the VW part? As far as I know, VW's are imported from overseas as well. No need AP?
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post Nov 21 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(spcx @ Nov 21 2011, 03:11 PM)
my SA just called, car coming this / next week. Getting the chassis number from the allocation tomorrow. It's for the first batch of booking, pre-booking. Some guys didn't manage to get the loan so SA allocating it for me since mine has been approved.

Woohoo! =)
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I'm hearing the same thing from SA as well. Hope to get my aluminium colored 508 within this week smile.gif What color is yours?

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