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 Peugeot 508, Ford Mondeo or VW Passat?, 3 good cars, 1 choice

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ar188
post Oct 23 2011, 08:39 AM

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so which one will be the 1st to hit half price in 3years? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 23 2011, 01:01 PM)
Get Accord & Camry if you dunwan to be caught in no resale value and expensive maintenance
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oi.. you should be promoting sonata or forte and the likes.. tongue.gif


Added on October 23, 2011, 9:07 pm
QUOTE(landlily98 @ Oct 23 2011, 04:19 PM)
funny, although most people voted for Mondeo, and many people out there will probably cheer about how good Mondeo is, but it doesn't translate into real sales figures in Malaysia..... sweat.gif

how often we see a Mondeo on the road? in KL, probably less often than seeing a Ferrari or a Porsche...

wondering why many people persuade other to venture into a particular car brand/model and when they themselves need a car, they get something else.....  sad.gif
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because these ppl talk only no action.. laugh.gif all promote mondeo like dem good but ownself only dare to sit focus or fiesta, maybe sked lost too much money.. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 25 2011, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Oct 24 2011, 12:54 AM)
anyway cybermaster, you better wait for the camry 2012, later you regret buying any of these 3 cars.

mana tahu camry 2012 is, 2.5 V6 engine. hehe. with CVT gear box, and For sure is Dual VVTi, but maybe no nice cool stuff like DRL, Quad zone aircond, JBL sound systems, or Bose sound Systems. But i am sure the minimum a camry 2012 will offer is at least, Electrical seats, driver passenger, 6 airbags, or maybe 2 only, keyless smart entry and a nice lcd touch screen that looks like after market. super comfortable suspensions, quiet ride, and 0 to 100kmh, who cares, camry what, you drive at your pace lah, tau keh mah,, no need to rush.

But at least camry is more like tau keh look lah, 508 more executive same as mondeo, Passat i cant categorize, So there you go, which category you fall into.

Tau keh, or executive.
laugh.gif yeah hor. i think camry 2012 still best.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 25 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 08:39 AM)
Have you seen and sat in the 508 or the Passat 1.8? Are you from KL? If you have the time, stop by the Peugeot showroom in TTDI. Look for a guy named Husaini and let him give you a tour of the car. Very knowledgeable guy and im sure ull be impressed with the car as i was.

Nobody knows what specs the Camry will come in but surely it won't be anywhere close to the 508, Mondeo or Passat. neither do we know its pricing. Besides, the Camry is only due next year. So for the time being lets talk about cars which are already in Malaysia.
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no need to tell me about pug experience ler, am sure in 2005, when I paid 160k for my 407 (when compared to what;s in the market at that time for similar price) I also felt the same way in terms of new car enthusiasm ..

at the moment, I don't need a 508, I already got 2 D segment japs..
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post Oct 25 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 10:28 AM)
160K for a 407 in 2005 was quite expensive i would say. Getting the 508 for RM169 in 2011 with the specs on offer is a good bargain if you ask me. Back in 2005, i would say the Japs would have still been a better choice. Not the same now in 2011. So we're not really comparing apples to apples eh? Go check out the 508.
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during dat time only got previous camry and previous akod.. compared to 407 where got nice ?

no need to lecture me on the 508 ler like never sit 150-200k car before meh.. is this your first time owning such price car?

you go buy the car drive 100-150k milage own for 3years then come tell me again the good and the bad etc, total ownership experience...
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post Oct 25 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 12:03 PM)
Uve gone on and on claiming this and that and till now you have not answered the main question: Have you seen or sat in the 508 or not?

So far ive seen all your comparisons are based on the 407. The 407 is no comparison with the 508 at all. Both are worlds apart with the 508 a much superior car. What cars have you owned in the 160-200K price range to make comparisons against?
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I didnt say 508 is bad car ler..

earlier posts, the 407 which i bought then was compared to then 2005 range of cars which I felt was also like now buying the 508 compared to the current crop of cars in the market for the same range.
please dun mix up. 407 (during 2005 time), now 508 (2011 time) ok? not to say in 2011, the 407 comparable to 508 .. LOL..


Added on October 25, 2011, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 12:03 PM)
Your D segment Jap car is the Lancer GT?
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lancer is not D segment, neither is it 150-200k class car.. ok? and i didn't have lancer before.. LOL..



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post Oct 25 2011, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 12:08 PM)
So what other 150-200K price range cars have you owned?
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from the past A33 (sold), 407 (sold), RX8, akod 2.4 , currently teana.
how about you then? what car u currently owned?
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post Oct 25 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 25 2011, 12:12 PM)
So whats your comparison between the Teana and the 508 then? Whats your thoughts? Which model Teana?
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if just the car driving experience, like teana vs 508 , i am sure the 508 will come out more prefered for me as well.. anyway, we see how lor, maybe next year can consider it when sell of the rx8,
but yeah my previous sales advisor from 407 days, already asking me to check out the 508.. laugh.gif like when they asked me to check out the 308T and 3008 and 5008 and RCZ which looks super nice when first see it,
but I give it 1year later, then see if still excited..(if excited then can seriously consider no hurry as I got many cars to drive lol)
cos currently 308T already dun feel so exciting liao compared to when I saw it 2years back in the show room.
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:10 PM)

As for the engine, i dont think it will be sluggish at all. 0-100kmph in 9.2 secs beats even the Toyota Vios (9.8secs) which was well known for its acceleration because of its light body.
vios 9.8seconds? Vios J manual izzit? but why compare it with the auto 508?
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:29 PM)
No. The first generation Vios auto. Im only comparing because you can really feel the acceleration in the Vios so if the 508 is gonna do it marginally faster, how then can it be termed 'sluggish'? If you wanna know sluggish, go test drive the Kia Forte 1.6L. biggrin.gif
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4spd auto or 6spd? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Pogostik @ Oct 28 2011, 09:33 PM)
AFAIK, there are two authorized centers for Peugeot. One is directly under Naza/Nasim and the other one is KS. I don't have any experience in dealing with Naza/Nasim SC but KS SC is good enough for me. Never had any problem with them, whether in servicing the car or claiming the warranty!  biggrin.gif
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KS u got claim gearbox before or not? the best for me was PJ Bluebox., gave me 2 new AL4 replacements until they ran out of new gearboxes.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:42 PM)
Why did u have to change gearboxes? What car model?
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aiyoh.. told you about my cars already mah.. few days ago.. tongue.gif

the 407 ler.. (they couldn't find the source of problem so french side say change the whole gearbox..)

then 1year later the problem came out again, then change again, 3rd time run out of al4.. so try decided to really troubleshoot.. finally found the problem, not even gearbox lol..


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:41 PM)
Not sure. Maybe the 4 speed. But 4 or 6 speed will not affect acceleration from 0-100kmph rite?
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of coz it will 4 is too less, 5-6is about rite....

but too many gears also will slow down the 0-100 time for lower powered cars.. spend too much time shifting and engine cut power during shift..

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post Oct 28 2011, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:47 PM)
Tell me more about the problem please. When it started and how was their response.
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when free will tell more, most of the SC taichi problem stories already forgotten since i started driving back jap cars .. biggrin.gif
i just know normal schedule change oil need morning put in , evening take car.. lol.. dem slo mo..
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post Oct 28 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 28 2011, 09:49 PM)
But to test sluggishness, you're testing from the start so ull only probably be hitting max 2nd/3rd gear. By then ull know if the car is sluggish or not. You wont need to reach the 4th or 6th gear to know.
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depends on car engine tuning and each individual gear ratios, like for example, myvi 1.3 and vios 1.5 auto dugong, 1-2gear dem responsive wan like driving 1.6-1.8L auto car liddat, while my swift 1st to 2nd gear, dun feel the kick, but at >100 it will accelerate and pull strongly until over 180km, cos the rpm meter is still rising while speedometer stop at 180kmh..
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QUOTE(Pogostik @ Oct 28 2011, 09:57 PM)
I don't know because I'd never claim a gearbox  biggrin.gif  And also, I don't know or hear any 308 owners claiming a gearbox before.
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biggrin.gif well hope 308 dun need any major claims later in ownership.. afterall pugs got a ton of error codes waiting to come out.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cropika @ Oct 29 2011, 09:45 AM)
ps...if i got extra 40k, ill change my 308T to 508...am be like a boss...wahahahaha
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need to top up more la.. 308T used now already below 100k.. laugh.gif


those earliest example (4spd) is going for 80-81k used car price.. (I wonder how much trade in? 70k to dealer?)

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Price : RM 81 800  Make: Peugeot  Model: 308 Turbo Panoramic
Reg. year: 2009  Mileage: 80 000 - 84 999  Transmission: Both
Engine Capacity: 1600 cc
Accessories: Solar Film, CD Player, Airbag driver, Airbag passenger, ABS Brakes, Sport rims, Alarm, Central lock, Adjustable steering


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QUOTE(rcracer @ Nov 1 2011, 03:22 AM)
our 207 is locally assembled of course it's shit
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local 207 is facelift 206 sedan mah.. your europe 207 is real 207.. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 3 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 3 2011, 08:43 AM)
But sadly its all 2011 models. With the anticipated low resale value, i would rather wait for the 2012 models to come in. Probably around Feb/March 2012. This will give me enough time to check everything especially test drive and after sales service standards. With this car, the drop in resale value would be approx 15-20% in the first year.
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have you place your booking yet?


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 2 2011, 02:40 PM)
Taukeh, I rephrased it for you lah.  biggrin.gif

I saw your 'sui kwan' 407 last year on the road after you dumped this. If you want to sell your 'Twin Turbo MyVi', please let me know as a friend of mine might be interested.
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haha! u also here? biggrin.gif twin turbo? hmm.gif my myvi no turbo wan la.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 3 2011, 11:55 AM)
No la. Alot more consideration to be done before i commit.
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err? but your initial enthusiasm was like over the roof wor.. why now like pull handbrake geh? hmm.gif


Added on November 3, 2011, 8:51 pm
QUOTE(sleepy @ Nov 3 2011, 03:48 PM)
Unfortunately apa pun tarak. Just full tank of petrol upon delivery. Sigh, better than nothing la
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they won't give anything when it's hot.. later 2years time, when low RV kicks in they will throw in plasma tv and what not.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 30 2011, 10:39 PM)
No i think Toyota has done away with the 5 speed GB for the Camry. If they still have it, im surely not buying a Camry.  notworthy.gif

But im currently inclined towards the Kia Optima while moving further away from the 508. Saw another unit on the road and the rear does look cacat.
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WTF? after promote 508 kau kau now go for cheaper optima?? hmm.gif

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