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 Peugeot 508, Ford Mondeo or VW Passat?, 3 good cars, 1 choice

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DesmondMiles
post Nov 26 2011, 02:43 PM

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Reccomend Ford. Extreme Performance @ A Good Price.

VW Passat Has The BEST AUDIO SYSTEM among all 3 rclxms.gif
DesmondMiles
post Nov 29 2011, 07:26 PM

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Lai Lai Time For A Change, How About We Wait For 2011 KIA OPTIMA Turbo & Compare This With FORD MONDEO Ecoboost.

2011 KIA OPTIMA Turbo vs. FORD MONDEO Ecoboost

0-100KM (Seconds)
2011 KIA OPTIMA Turbo - 6.5 Seconds! Amazing!
FORD MONDEO Ecoboost - 7.9 Seconds! Cool!

Btw, 2011 KIA OPTIMA Turbo Has A Very Similar Engine To V8!


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post Nov 30 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Nov 29 2011, 08:03 PM)
Kia already said they WILL NOT BRING IN good engines because of so-call 'Fuel Quality BS excuse'

Mondeo can bring the latest greatest EcoBoost, but KIA cannot

Kia like to treat malaysian like idiot, malaysian like being treated like idiot also
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O.o really?
But they had older versions of optima here. The new optima comes in 3 version, hybrid, normal, and turbo. I dont think they will be so evil to not bring any one of those hehe. Anyway kia mantainance is expensive.. So best still go for mondeo thumbup.gif

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post Dec 5 2011, 02:30 AM

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Some Car Prices Might Be Going Up Next Year. FORD MONDEO Price Comfirmed By Salesman That It Will Be Increased Around 7-12% For Next Year's Batch And The Car Will Be 99-100% Same As This Year's Batch. (Navigation Unit Package Might Come In As Optional) hmm.gif

BTW so sorry to tell you guys that this year's batch of FORD MONDEO has left a few units. According to the salesman - Johor, Pinang and a few other states have sold out all their Mondeo's and Some are not even displaying it in their showroom after a few weeks of displaying. blush.gif

As far as i know, 2 Days Ago KL Has Left Less Than 10 Units Of Mondeo.
Yesterday Noon, I went to showroom again, Mondeo's in KL Only Left 3 Units. 1 Silver, 2 Black. And Salesman Say Silver Might Have Been Sold Out - That Lefts 2 Black In Whole KL For Sale! And This Is Also Because Customers That Booked Cant Get Loan So Cancel Their Booking. shocking.gif

The Engine Is Powerful! Test Drive Liao! Sound Prooving Quite Good Even Trottle Hard! thumbup.gif According to salesman they only get 800 commision for a sale of Ford Mondeo as it is a very "EASY-TO-SELL" car. So dun expect much freebies. I manage to get Smart Tag, Full Tank, Secuirity 3M Tinting & Double 8 Number Plate for free. Its little but i think its a lot compared to the one i gone to yesterday didnt want to offer a single thing. vmad.gif One thing good is you get free mantainance for 3 years including all spare parts, labour etc. not even a single cent u need when u sent ur car for service.

But Peugeot Salesman say FORD Doesnt have its own service center. he says they give license to other center to do the job. therefor not professional enug. i dunno whether this is true.

Passat Design not very nice. Do Not Confuse Passat CC & Passat. Their Both On Different Classes Liao. Passat CC Around 260k Passat around 180k and their design are not the same. Of couse Passat CC is better and more stylish.

Toyota Camry comfirm launching new one next year between jun-dec according to a toyota salesman.

And Im Not Sure Bout This But Peugoet Salesman says ALL PEUGOET Cars & MPVs are Using The SAME ENGINE. Even u buy the 5008, 508, 308, 3008, the sporty one (forgot name) all using same engine. 1.6 Turbo (Feels Like 2.2) Didnt manage to test drive 508 cause car will be in Puchong Showroom 10+ December For A Limited Days.

Sorry Topic Mess Up cause its late and im just dumping all i can recall on sat and sun rclxms.gif Anything You Want to know more PM/Reply Here. Will Help As Much As Possible.
DesmondMiles
post Dec 5 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Dec 5 2011, 05:08 AM)
Ford have its own Service center  smile.gif  Toyota will Launch new Camry on First Quarter 2012 smile.gif

Btw Free number plate? You mean No.88?
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Of Course Not Lol! 88 Will Be Around 10-20,000 Lol!
Double 8 Number Means 4 numbers with 88 Inside.

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 5 2011, 09:12 AM)
yea, the passat looks smaller than passat cc. and in the night the Rear LED design is a bit..special.

the peugeot most of the car now comes with 1.6turbo prince engine , the power very similar to 2.4liter. so they all shares the same advantages, and disadvantages. ^^
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But My area has more Passat CC Then Passat lol! All Rich Peoples...

Yea Thats Problem with peugoet cars lol! rclxub.gif But the salesman say Peugoet Mantainance is cheaper than continental cars cause they service every 10,000 Km. Dunno hw true lar sweat.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(munky @ Dec 5 2011, 11:32 AM)
bro most cars service every 10,000 km now. Even inspira also
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QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Dec 5 2011, 02:39 PM)
Ford also service every 10K >.> VW service every 15K
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Dunno Much Lar, But He Say Most Conti Cars Service Every 5K. Their Car Service Every 10K So Can Save Money? Lol!
Nearest Service Center For Me @ PJ cry.gif
Mazda 6 Also Limited Stock. 2.0 No More According to them in PJ. 2.5 Left A Few Units.
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post Dec 6 2011, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 5 2011, 10:19 PM)
You really believe that salesman crap talk that the Mondeo has no stock cuz its selling so well ah? Common la bro. Open your eyes. How many Mondeo's do you see in the Klang Valley? So far ive only seen 3 and i drive around alot. That car is doing very badly. The only Ford doing well in Malaysia is the Fiesta. Ive seen much more Porsche's than the Mondeo for sure.

If that salesman says that 'its very easy to sell' then ask him to show you all the sales he has recorded in the last 1 year. Also ask him to show you how many sales his branch recorded. See if he dares to show! Mondeo not even among Top 50 models in Malaysia.

Dont be a fool. Salesmen will always feed rubbish to those who are willing to accept it. Or on hindsight, are you a Ford salesman yourself feeding us rubbish?
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Yea I Only Seen One So Far On The Road. Its Under Populated. Ford Doesnt does any advertisement on Mondeo (Maybe i miss them) But So Far I Dont See Any. The Previous Mondeo was not using ECOBOOST Technology Thats Why It Doesnt Get Attention. Price was same with a 2.3 Engine. Who Would Want It? Just Another High Mantainance Executive Continental Car. doh.gif

The Star have compared a few executive cars and rated Mondeo The Best Value For Money Car. icon_idea.gif

Fiesta Is A Compact Car.. Many People are interested in it. Its A good car for a moderate income family. But i dont like its design though.
Anyway In Performance You Go Find Me A Car With Almost The Same Specs With Almost The Same Price... tongue.gif

I Booked A Ford Car, So You Think Im A Ford Salesman? Think Before Insulting! vmad.gif


Added on December 6, 2011, 1:53 am
QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 23 2011, 01:01 PM)
Get Accord & Camry if you dunwan to be caught in no resale value and expensive maintenance
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Actually Camry Resale Value Might Drop Because Many People Are Using Camry Now. Accord i not sure lar..
Saw Camry 2.4 111,100 4 Years Old. Still Quite High Price But Thats After Going Thru Dealer. Maybe they buy from you 90-100k.
And + New Camry Model Coming Out... Resale Value Sure Further Decrease Next Year.

But if compared to continental cars, they still win lor :|

Still Confused Whether to cancel booking and take next years model or just hang on to booking:
- If take this year's batch On Road Price Around 180k. But Resale Value Drop As its considered 1 year old car by next year.
- If take next year's batch, Price Comfirm Increase @ 7-12%. Some Say Next Year 200K+ But Car Counted As Brand New...

Need Advices. icon_question.gif

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post Dec 6 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 6 2011, 02:24 AM)
Value for money in the UK doesn't count s... in Malaysia. sad.gif Otherwise the Dacia Logan MCV could be considered the best value for money... 37k for a brand new 7 seater MPV with 2 airbags and ABS (3 stars EuroNCAP) in Germany. Doesn't count anything here though.

Don't think I have seen one in JB either...

Of course Ford salesmen shouldn't be driving a Toyota, lol.

I don't think you should really care about resale value... how much better can it be when you buy the 2012 model and have to pay 20k more? You think you can get 20k more after a few years? However, if it gets better equipment, such as the satnav (which, as I mentioned before, rocks (used it in the Galaxy. The display was IMHO a bit too dark there though). However the VW has a 30 GB HDD for your music, which is also quite neat. Of course I don't know how good the maps they have for Malaysia are, and how they will update it (and at what cost)), theeeeeen it might be worth it. Just.
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Lol, sorry to insult but i don't think a normal Ford Salesman can afford a Mondeo wink.gif

The salesman say next year batch MIGHT include a navigation unit as optional. Cause the current one is the basic model without any modifications import fully from Belgium. But anyway nt gonna get it. Might as well buy a good gps biggrin.gif

VW passat design looks outdated. Performance less price slightly higher, so i dun think I'll take that. But inside is nicer lar thumbup.gif now most off the car interior black.. Sure need tinting Liao.. sad.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(chuakz @ Dec 6 2011, 01:54 PM)

Added on December 6, 2011, 1:57 pm

I hope that the next batch of S-max will have leather seats...that would be great
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The Current S-Max Already Have Leather Seats. According to the salesman, they say some families dun like leather seats cause not comfortable for them so they prefer fabric. But Leather More Expensive Lar.. Didnt take note of the price as once i see the last 2 seats... I would as well take Mazda 5 Or Peugoet 5008, But Power Still Cannot Match Lar sweat.gif The Last 2 Seats Very Cramp, Chair Cannot Move.. Only thing that is adjustable is its headrest.. If you got 2 small kids can lar. But when they grow up, they will be fighting for the middle row mad.gif I love the voice control thing on both mondeo and s-max. Can Understand our voice well. smile.gif

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post Dec 11 2011, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(chuakz @ Dec 6 2011, 09:07 PM)
you mean the new batch of s-max have leather seats? the current batch does not have them....they are fabric
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QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Dec 7 2011, 03:20 AM)
Upgrade Option  smile.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 8 2011, 09:55 PM)
So do you still believe that your salesman is talking sense when he said its so easy to sell Mondeos? Do u still believe that Mondeo sales are sooo good? For your info, only 6 Mondeo's were sold in Sept and only 56 in total so far this year. Does that sound like a great sales record for you? Even Porsche sold more Cayenne's than the Mondeo and that's a luxury car. Ecoboost or not, Mondeo's dont appeal here in Malaysia. Looks good in pics but not in reality especially the rear. Surely not a head turner.

Take these stats and go see your salesman and see what he has to say bout his sales record. How i hate these lying salesmen!  vmad.gif

The Star may have done a review but ive yet a read a poor review on the Peugeot 508. Ive read some poor reviews bout the Passat 1.8. Its even ranked among the Top 10 most disappointing cars of 2011 along with the 2012 Honda Civic.
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But Performance For That Price Is Amazing. Passat CC Is One Nice Car With About The Same Specs @ 90k Higher.
Ford Itself has a low publicity in Malaysia, So Nothing To Say... Check The Booking List Yesterday, I would say 85% Booked Ford Fiesta, 5% Ford Focus, 10% S-max. Anyway cancelled by booking as i could get a better rebate @ Melaka. But Also looking @ Other Options While Im Not Committed In Any Purchases Yet. So Which Car Did You Get? 508? Peugeot is still using an older technology for turbo compared to Ecoboost, so not very sure whether to go for it.
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post Dec 14 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 12 2011, 07:33 PM)
I suddenly started looking at the Audi A4 1.8TFSI today. Price is approx RM 240K (OTR with insurance). Not sure if it would be worth the extra 70K over the 508.

http://www.audi.com.my/sea/brand/my/models/a4/a4_saloon.html
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Have you take a look at the Passat CC? Nice Design Around That Price Range.. thumbup.gif

A4 Looks a bit odd sweat.gif
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post Dec 17 2011, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 14 2011, 09:11 PM)
Passat CC is very very sexy car
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 14 2011, 09:28 PM)
Passat CC is more expensive. Approx RM 265K (OTR with insurance).
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Getting ont of the highest range of VW is way better than getting one of the lowest range of Audi.. Anyway Passat CC design is really nice... thumbup.gif Especially the sporty doors. Memang for executive... icon_rolleyes.gif
15k More you get a much better looking car.. I didn't go to see the audi A4 though.. So i dunno it's interior..

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 16 2011, 07:48 PM)
We were refering to the Passat CC not the 1.8TSI. The TSI is pretty ugly and looks outdated. Specs wise it looses heavily to the Peugeot 508. The only thing going for it is the DSG and engine. I dont think we're gonna see much of it on the road. International reviews dont rate the 1.8TSI highly.
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I see 4 White Passat CC on my short journey to VW Showroom In Glenmarie..
Hadnt seen any Passat On The Road Yet..

 

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