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 Peugeot 508, Ford Mondeo or VW Passat?, 3 good cars, 1 choice

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Ambang2
post Nov 27 2011, 06:54 PM

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Hi all,

I have been comtemplating which D-segment car to go for in hte last 2 months. After going thru thorough review reading magazines, view these 3 cars as well as test drive all units and talking to friends, i can draw final conclusion that Ford Mondeo is best in class amongst these 3 units in terms of power and handling with ecoboost engine

Comes 2nd would be Passat, which provides top class gearbox (DSG) and engine (TSI).

No doubt 508 having the best interior car specs compared to others, i still won't go for it due to:

1) car reliability. You may check with driver who own 308 and they complaint problem such as gearbox, water pump, airbag indicators and etc in less than 3 years.

2) The possibility of changing Peugeot to Naza Badge (happened to 207)

3) Engine & gearbox are no way near to Passat and Mondeo.
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post Nov 29 2011, 11:48 PM

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Today i went to spare part shop to buy wear n tear parts for my altis. Talked to the experience shop operator about recent invasion of conti car in msia, he said nice to drive than japanese car but be prepared to fork out tons of money to maintain after 5 years. Msia weather is not suitable for conti car. He added further volks passat side mirror can cost up to 6k if damage n getting a new one. After listening his story, i called up my camry salesman. Guess what, he can overtrade my 5 years old altis at 63k excluding the current promo by toyata such as 1st year insurance 4.5k, free premium tinted 2.3k. Overall, i have about 14.8k discount. Dont u think is a good deal?


Added on November 29, 2011, 11:49 pmToday i went to spare part shop to buy wear n tear parts for my altis. Talked to the experience shop operator about recent invasion of conti car in msia, he said nice to drive than japanese car but be prepared to fork out tons of money to maintain after 5 years. Msia weather is not suitable for conti car. He added further volks passat side mirror can cost up to 6k if damage n getting a new one. After listening his story, i called up my camry salesman. Guess what, he can overtrade my 5 years old altis at 63k excluding the current promo by toyata such as 1st year insurance 4.5k, free premium tinted 2.3k. Overall, i have about 14.8k discount. Dont u think is a good deal?

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post Nov 30 2011, 10:59 PM

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I don't agree with u. The authorised shop for certain brand is actually more expensive such as Weng hin for Toyota. people still go there n buy becos worrying of counterfeit parts. U end up paying premium to draw comfort.in fact, other shops are getting supplies from Weng hin n sell cheaper.
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post Nov 30 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(liewjs @ Dec 1 2011, 12:32 AM)
I've been following this thread for quite some times already. Really impressed with this car but not yet test-driving. Need some opinion from you guys in few aspects which i think i'll rather concern: engine's noise, cabin's noise insulation & comfort of riding.

Currently, i owned a 7 year-old manual Wira (my first & latest car, paiseh). I don't bother much about 2nd-hand value and don't mind to get a conti car. Thanks.
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Ford mondeo. Go test drive n I can assure u fall in love with it if resale value not a concern.
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post Dec 30 2011, 01:24 AM

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HI all,

It seems we have gone overboard in discussing toyota camry rather than focusing on the 3 models. Hope all of us can narrow our scope to these 3 models.
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post Dec 31 2011, 03:18 PM

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Anyone here can advise which model should i go for if my emphasis is

1. Adequate Power
2. Good handling
3. Confortable to drive
4. Good built quality

I got to travel at least 80km per day from home to office so the above 4 attributes are my main consideration.

Your valuable suggestion is highly appreciated.
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post Dec 31 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Dec 31 2011, 04:57 PM)
Any conti is powerful enough. They _usually_ put more emphasis on handling than on ride comfort, while the Japanese are the other way round. Citroen C5 is the exception, and I think a decent combination of ride comfort (perhaps the best) and still decent handling.

That being said if you change the rims on the contis they shouldn't be unreasonable hard. Just the stock rims are only focused on looks... which is bad when you test drive because you only get to experience the unreasonable stiff ride.

What about the Mondeo? I know it is rare, but IIRC the ride is also a good compromise between comfort and handling (at least the Mondeo based MPV is). VW I always thought are on the stiff side of things, and Peugeot tries to differentiate from Citroen by being sporty and stiff (as the cars are very similar under the bonnet, except for the suspension).
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You mean Mondeo have both comfort and handling? Any idea how's the car reliability?
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post Jan 2 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(huaren1978 @ Jan 2 2012, 10:20 PM)
Ford Mondeo Ecoboost has a Sports Mode? where is the activation button?
The other day when I test drove one, I didn't realise such a feature exists on the Mondeo, nor the sales person mentioned anything about it. This is strange...
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There is no button to activate, you just need to switch your gear to sport mode and feel the big different.

Suggest you test drive another round and get an experience SA to handle. You may contact Kenny or Jeanne from PJ Ford. Both of them are very nice and shared a lot of info about Mondeo. Good luck.
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post Jan 15 2012, 01:01 AM

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So what is the verdict? Which car is value for money in msia?
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post Jan 26 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 27 2012, 12:39 AM)
Yes i agree. The Passat 1.8TSI really looks boring. Seen very few on the road but doesnt even raise eyebrows. The Jetta seems a better bet but still looks very outdated.

By the way, i managed to test the Optima yesterday. Managed to hit 120-130kmph on Sprint Hw and was quite impressed with the NVH, handling and rear suspension comfort. Rear suspension comfort better than the 508 for sure. But unlike the 508, the Optima is sluggish from startup (as expected) due to the heavier body weight and lower torque. But has good mid range pickup.
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How about mondeo? Just curious why Malaysian r so rigid despite knowing this car rated the best family mid size sedan car in many country in Europe n Australia.
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post Feb 7 2012, 02:18 AM

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Anyone got update about sales figures of Ford mondeo? i hardly see it on the road despite being rated amongst the best driver car as compared to passat n 508.


 

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