let me tell you why the placed the price at 190K, it is because they can, and it is because there will be people buying them.

Of course in VW you are buying the Engine and Gearbox, and in a 508, you buying luxury feeling. Anyway VW will probably hold a better value compare to Peugeot. Ford probably is the worst among the 3.

anyway there is practically nothing in the Passat, nothing special at all, just it is passat and it is a VW and it carries a DSG and TSI badge. And currently the hottest selling brand in malaysia, look at the amount of Golf TSI And GTI on the road. compare to 5 years ago. It is like it is everywhere.

But honestly, VW is really really pricy.

slowly study first, dont take the rush, how you know suddenly the second batch comes with updated GPS navigation.

Then you probably get more out of it. Maybe by then when the Camry is out, you can compare even more cars. Then you can choose your pick.

Unfortunately apa pun tarak. Just full tank of petrol upon delivery. Sigh, better than nothing la

err? but your initial enthusiasm was like over the roof wor.. why now like pull handbrake geh? 

Ok sure will do. Once I get the car. SA can't promise which day of next week. Just say next week. Btw mine is aluminium color.

If after sales service is your biggest concern, i think u should scrape off any idea of getting anything other than Toyota/Honda ( Major car seller here )... after sales service is not establish over the night 

Guys I got this feeling I'm not getting the car this week. As usual la, empty promises from SA. Now I'm hearing this AP thing.

Damn, should've opted for a recon E60 from naza as the price is similar to this. I hate waiting

Car wise, my pug is very good, only let dnw is the service center. And car wise, pug IS a level higher then jpn car.

Hi, nice discussion!
I'm also looking at the passat, 508, and mondeo rite now..have tested the passat and mondeo ecoboost.. All are good cars, better than the japs. However, I can only choose one..sigh
In my observation, these are the major goods and bads about each car, which could be the decisive factors:

1. Passat
Good: it's a Volkswagen, 7 speed dsg, interior similar to passat cc (which costs at least 70k more), 5 year unlimited mileage warranty, service interval 15k
Bad: most expensive rm190k (including insurance, not 192k as stated in this thread),
No keyless, no navi, no DVD, no bluetooth

2. 508
Good: most exciting exterior, newest brand new model, most interior features, amazing sound system! (need to hear it, simply superb), true keyless, cheapest.
Bad: auto gearbox (not dual clutch), 3 year/100k km warranty, 10k service interval

3. Mondeo
Good: best ride and handling (try it, as good as BMW or nearly there), most powerful, fastest, dual clutch gearbox, largest (but boot space a bit shallow if I remember correctly), keyless, Bluetooth, voice control
Bad: not so new model (just a recent facelift), no paddle shifters, most thirsty, 3 years warranty, 10k service interval, no navi

There.. To me, based on the above, I would go for the passat.. The dsg is simply superb, interior quality as good as passat cc, and most importantly 5 years unlimited mileage warranty. You can drive all you want without worrying about the engine or gearbox breaking down, then you can sell after 4 years and the warranty is still valid so this will help in the resale value also.. For navi, or sound system, later can upgrade, although this will be expensive if need to use volkswagen system (to save the warranty).

Unless anyone can convince me otherwise..

Me, me, me. Having already bought the car, I cant help but to go there to get a taste of the car. I went there today at 1030am to test drive the car. Luckily not many ppl around 1030am. So just register and get the test drive immediately. But unfortunately the car is on trade plate, so cant drive out to open roads.

The test drive was only done in the car park area. There were 5 of us in the car, including the sales person. The car still feels powerful despite carrying 3x85kg+, 1x70kg+, and another 58kg passenger. Ride is quiet/smooth despite the 18" 235/45 tyres (but the car park pavement is still smooth). But the gearshifts isnt as smooth as i'd like it to be under hard acceleration (I'm comparing this to an accord 2.4's gearshift).

Sound insulation is pretty good. Can hardly hear the engine in the car. Steering is really light in tight corners. Feels like driving a much smaller car which is a plus point considering this car's bulky size. Overall, today's test drive has cleared some doubts I've always have before this. I'm relieved and confident to say my blind purchase (bought before test drive) has turn out to be a good one.

But then again, there's a final question mark which is the after sales service. Are nasim's service centers competent enough to maintain these cars? And also how durable/reliable will this car be in the long run?

you are right, 240nm torque is comparable to 2.4liter car. only HP is lower, but i would assume you're not looking for topspeed kind of guy as in over 220km/h

Personally having paddle shifters in my car, I think I have used them around only like less than 10 times in my 1 year ownership. I used to think that its great and a must have but after a while, I hardly ever need to use it because the DSG gearbox is really good. Reads my driving style and when I want to be a bit more aggressive, I just switch to sports mode and its fantastics even up hill climbs at Ulu Yam.

Besides the Technical considerations the feel/ ride of all 3 cars  should also be taken into consideration too.

On top of that  how one is perceived driving these cars may also sway judgements.

I have test driven all three. Truth be told the Passat has a better feel and ride with the 508 coming close second.

Someone posted earlier why not include the Alfa 159 and I tend to agree. Basically this is what the driver will be perceived when driving the cars :

Mondeo - Slightly older 45-55 years of age. Probably Desk Job definitely not an accountant.

Puegot 508 - Early 40 - 50 Just got promoted from Mid level Management.

Passat - Wanted the BMW 3 series but not willing to stretch the budget.
Alfa 159 - Marketing or Sales chances are former Player too 

My two cents worth lah...

I know, but the thing that I cant stand is empty promises. If they told me will get in couple months then I'm ok, probably I wont even have placed money on it at all. But what I've been told is not what I'm getting. What I mean is, they've misled me through false information and it has affected my buying decision.

What I heard now is, there are a couple of 508's already cleared duty. But I can say mine is not definitely one of them

SA say this Friday can get car. But I'm not putting up high hopes, coz been let down too many times. See how it goes la. Will post some pics if really got it

VW Passat Has The BEST AUDIO SYSTEM among all 3

Some experience on highway today. At 110kmh, the rpm is at 2500rpm, which is higher than the accord and lancer EX. FC-wise no matter what I try on the highway, the FC is nowhere near the advertised 7.1L/100km. The best I managed is 8.9L/100km.

The thing that I really like about this 508 is that, it feels so planted through the corners at high speed. From sungai besi exit to MRR2 (the circle exit), the car feels planted even at speeds of 80kmh (accord and lancer EX feels wobbly in comparison). No body-roll, no tyre screeching (this one is probably due to fatter tyres).

Some Car Prices Might Be Going Up Next Year. FORD MONDEO Price Comfirmed By Salesman That It Will Be Increased Around 7-12% For Next Year's Batch And The Car Will Be 99-100% Same As This Year's Batch. (Navigation Unit Package Might Come In As Optional) 

BTW so sorry to tell you guys that this year's batch of FORD MONDEO has left a few units. According to the salesman - Johor, Pinang and a few other states have sold out all their Mondeo's and Some are not even displaying it in their showroom after a few weeks of displaying. 

As far as i know, 2 Days Ago KL Has Left Less Than 10 Units Of Mondeo.
Yesterday Noon, I went to showroom again, Mondeo's in KL Only Left 3 Units. 1 Silver, 2 Black. And Salesman Say Silver Might Have Been Sold Out - That Lefts 2 Black In Whole KL For Sale! And This Is Also Because Customers That Booked Cant Get Loan So Cancel Their Booking. 

The Engine Is Powerful! Test Drive Liao! Sound Prooving Quite Good Even Trottle Hard!  According to salesman they only get 800 commision for a sale of Ford Mondeo as it is a very "EASY-TO-SELL" car. So dun expect much freebies. I manage to get Smart Tag, Full Tank, Secuirity 3M Tinting & Double 8 Number Plate for free. Its little but i think its a lot compared to the one i gone to yesterday didnt want to offer a single thing.   One thing good is you get free mantainance for 3 years including all spare parts, labour etc. not even a single cent u need when u sent ur car for service.