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rachel_sy
post Oct 21 2011, 12:02 AM


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hi friends, i had visited homedec 2011, and need some suggestion for the home alarm, my house is still under renovation, its double story intermediate.
Checked out the alarm system in the homedec, which is paradox and blueguard, would like to confirm during the fair, can anyone share with me what is the pro and con for this two brands?
Am quite urgent since i only have three more days to decide, because the fair offered great discount for the alarm.
Which brand is more reliable and long last.

Hope that you all can share with me.
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post Oct 21 2011, 09:41 AM


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QUOTE(rachel_sy @ Oct 21 2011, 01:02 AM)
hi friends, i had visited homedec 2011, and need some suggestion for the home alarm, my house is still under renovation, its double story intermediate.
Checked out the alarm system in the homedec, which is paradox and blueguard, would like to confirm during the fair, can anyone share with me what is the pro and con for this two brands?
Am quite urgent since i only have three more days to decide, because the fair offered great discount for the alarm.
Which brand is more reliable and long last.

Hope that you all can share with me.
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Hi I think both are equal good. Just to make sure their price include installation, read properly any hidden terms & condition. If both quoted same price include delivery, i will go for Paradox.
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post Oct 21 2011, 11:48 AM


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Rachel,
My recommendation is for Paradox. Been using them for many years both for home and offices.

Improtant thing to note is the installation ... good installation = last longer wiht less maintenance.
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post Oct 23 2011, 12:59 AM


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Here's the offer price I got from Homedec,

Paradox SP5500 Alarm Package (RM1180)
- Main Control Panel (1)
- 10 zone hardwired numerical keypad (2)
- Surface magnetic contact (5)
- Indoor siren (1)
- Outdoor siren with light strobe & tampered switch (1)
- 12V 7AH battery (1)
- Adjustable vibration sensor (10)
- VDMP Plug-in voice dailer; arm/disarm module (1)
- PRO + PIR Motion detector (1)
* Price exclude installation
* 2 years warranty

Bluguard V16N Alarm Package (RM1499)
- V16N (9 zones) Main Board (1)
- Transformer & battery (1)
- V16N LCD Keypad (1)
- Indoor & Outdoor Siren (1)
- Window/door points (10)
* Installation included (conceal wiring), but exclude plastering & painting
* 12 months warranty

Which one is better in terms of value for money?

Roughly how much does alarm installation cost (concealed incl plastering) for intermediate double storey link ?

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post Oct 23 2011, 11:38 AM


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I have been quoted by gassecurity 16zones alarm at 2200 with installation and 22 points.

Lol.. Much more cheaper than blugard.

Additional point cost 30 for blugard.
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post Oct 23 2011, 11:39 AM


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QUOTE(ahter @ Oct 23 2011, 12:59 AM)
Here's the offer price I got from Homedec,

Paradox SP5500 Alarm Package (RM1180)
- Main Control Panel (1)
- 10 zone hardwired numerical keypad (2)
- Surface magnetic contact (5)
- Indoor siren (1)
- Outdoor siren with light strobe & tampered switch (1)
- 12V 7AH battery (1)
- Adjustable vibration sensor (10)
- VDMP Plug-in voice dailer; arm/disarm module (1)
- PRO + PIR Motion detector (1)
* Price exclude installation
* 2 years warranty

Bluguard V16N Alarm Package (RM1499)
- V16N (9 zones) Main Board (1)
- Transformer & battery (1)
- V16N LCD Keypad (1)
- Indoor & Outdoor Siren (1)
- Window/door points (10)
* Installation included (conceal wiring), but exclude plastering & painting
* 12 months warranty

Which one is better in terms of value for money?

Roughly how much does alarm installation cost (concealed incl plastering) for intermediate double storey link ?
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I would take the Paradox. Concealed installation without plastering is about RM 600 maybe. They usually do not plaster, even if they do, they'd do a bad job at it.
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post Oct 23 2011, 08:40 PM


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During my house renovation I decided on Paradox security alarm
and got the contractor to hardwire the system. The renovators then
covered all the hacking areas. I have 2 keypads plus 3 remote controls.
Using mostly vibration sensors [on grilled door/windows], some magnetic
and 2 ultrasonic movement sensors [for hall/airwell areas], the entire
system cost me around rm1.5k incld install. Thats for a 1.5 storey house.

It works efficiently and has only given 1 false alarm when a wire became
disconnected in the ceiling which was fixed later.

When my phone line comes I will install a dialler for mobile control when
I am out of the house.

Thats my experience with Paradox, good luck with your choice.

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post Oct 23 2011, 09:38 PM


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What about PrimSafety?
Am looking for someone install the system and sirens only, wiring and sensors already done by the developer.
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post Oct 23 2011, 09:46 PM


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This is a very good that some of you share the quotation price in details, very useful for me.
Thanks!!
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post Oct 23 2011, 11:49 PM


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I've signed up an alarm system package RM1399 at homedec today. The alarm system brand is SUPA and package including:

1) 10 pcs of Vibration Sensor
2) 5 pcs Magnetic Contact
3) 1 pcs of Passive Infrared Detector
4) Alarm Keypad

I've add an extra Alarm Keypad - RM100,
Installation charges is RM300.

They free one Vibration Sensor for me.

Please comment whether worth it?




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post Oct 23 2011, 11:59 PM


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QUOTE(cenglee @ Oct 23 2011, 11:49 PM)
I've signed up an alarm system package RM1399 at homedec today. The alarm system brand is SUPA and package including:

1) 10 pcs of Vibration Sensor
2) 5 pcs Magnetic Contact
3) 1 pcs of Passive Infrared Detector
4) Alarm Keypad

I've add an extra Alarm Keypad - RM100,
Installation charges is RM300.

They free one Vibration Sensor for me.

Please comment whether worth it?
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What is the extra sensor cost?

total for your package 1800 d. plus minus the same as blugard as well as other brands.
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post Oct 24 2011, 12:02 AM


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 23 2011, 11:59 PM)
What is the extra sensor cost?

total for your package 1800 d. plus minus the same as blugard as well as other brands.
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I'm not sure because I didn't ask them.
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rachel_sy
post Oct 25 2011, 04:16 PM


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Hi all,

Thanks for your input.
i had signed with paradox during homedec last week, i choose the RM 1488 with upgrade to LCD keypad with extra RM100 each , their installation fees is about RM 850. Thus the total package is about RM 2538, but i managed to get further discount and end up the total package that i got is rm 2300. hope that its really good la, the sales person and the technician also sound professional.
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post Oct 25 2011, 05:12 PM


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Anyone using wireless home alarm? what is the pros and cons?

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post Oct 25 2011, 06:46 PM


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Ya, I was using a Linear wireless alarm system
in an apartment. It was very easy to install without
the need for hacking at all, clean was the keyword.

The ONLY setback is that you have to replace the
batteries in the sensors or else they will not work
when their batteries go flat...so you have to make
it a scheduled battery change every 12 to 15 months.
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post Oct 25 2011, 11:53 PM


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QUOTE(cenglee @ Oct 24 2011, 12:02 AM)
I'm not sure because I didn't ask them.
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For additional sensor, its about RM 20 per unit.
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post Oct 26 2011, 03:31 PM


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QUOTE(ride00 @ Oct 25 2011, 06:46 PM)
Ya, I was using a Linear wireless alarm system
in an apartment. It was very easy to install without
the need for hacking at all, clean was the keyword.

The ONLY setback is that you have to replace the
batteries in the sensors or else they will not work
when their batteries go flat...so you have to make
it a scheduled battery change every 12 to 15 months.
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How much did you pay? I was considering using the wired ones. The ADT.
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post Dec 12 2012, 07:00 PM


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guys, just going thru all the threads for Paradox and I do plan to install Paradox seeing that all high-end industries are also opting to use them.

The word of caution that i would like to pass is please ensure that your installer places the wires in the casing when they run it thru the wall, my experience from my current system, it keeps giving false alarm and sensor keeps getting spoilt...

according to the new guy i called after having had enough of paying for 'service charge' to my existing vendor, apparently, those guys ran the wires and some crossed my electric wires causing regular surge etc.

my current system was ready when i moved in but definitely rather opt to be alarmless with the cost of maintaining it coming so high!
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post Dec 13 2012, 03:14 PM


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QUOTE(nexuskhan @ Dec 12 2012, 07:00 PM)
guys, just going thru all the threads for Paradox and I do plan to install Paradox seeing that all high-end industries are also opting to use them.

The word of caution that i would like to pass is please ensure that your installer places the wires in the casing when they run it thru the wall, my experience from my current system, it keeps giving false alarm and sensor keeps getting spoilt...

according to the new guy i called after having had enough of paying for 'service charge' to my existing vendor, apparently, those guys ran the wires and some crossed my electric wires causing regular surge etc.

my current system was ready when i moved in but definitely rather opt to be alarmless with the cost of maintaining it coming so high!
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U may consider wireless alarm too..
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post Dec 22 2012, 02:33 AM


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Seeing so many bros here list down the quotations they got, I also put down mine, ask the sifus here whether it is a good deal, anyone heard of the alarm brand "Qtron", was quote by one contractor:

Qtron alarm panel 8 zone
keypad x 2
panic button x 2
magnetic sensor x 6
vibration sensor x 20
siren x 2
siren box x 1
backup battery x 1
RM2200

for the cctv: (dunno what brand)
h264 dvr 8channel with 1TB hdd
6 IR camera 40led 520 TVL (outdoor)
2 dome camera 20led 520 TVL (indoor)
cctv point
RM5100

btw, 520 TVL & 480 TVL got difference or not, or negligible.

both is warranty 1 yr, should be include install.
the price worth or not? need the sifus here to advise

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post Dec 23 2012, 12:20 AM


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For alarm system, I using a brand call " defender Smart home". work fine till now, best part is able to access using internet. .. to arm and disarm.
less headache ..
I havent have a CCTV yet, any good recommendation ?
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post Jun 21 2013, 02:08 PM


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QUOTE(spell @ Dec 22 2012, 02:33 AM)
Seeing so many bros here list down the quotations they got, I also put down mine, ask the sifus here whether it is a good deal, anyone heard of the alarm brand "Qtron", was quote by one contractor:

Qtron alarm panel 8 zone
keypad x 2
panic button x 2
magnetic sensor x 6
vibration sensor x 20
siren x 2
siren box x 1
backup battery x 1
RM2200

for the cctv: (dunno what brand)
h264 dvr 8channel with 1TB hdd
6 IR camera 40led 520 TVL (outdoor)
2 dome camera 20led 520 TVL (indoor)
cctv point
RM5100

btw, 520 TVL & 480 TVL got difference or not, or negligible.

both is warranty 1 yr, should be include install.
the price worth or not? need the sifus here to advise
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Hi Spell, I moved to a house equipped with Qtron alarm system, that already installed by previous owner. Unfortunately currently the alarm is faulty. Do you mind to share contact number of the contractor who advised you before (if any).thanks.
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post Sep 10 2013, 11:14 PM


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Seeing so many bros here list down the quotations they got, I also put down mine, ask the sifus here whether it is a good deal, anyone heard of the alarm brand "Bluguard", was quote by one contractor:

Bluguard alarm panel system 8zone
Keypad-2
PIR motion-1
Magnetic sensor-5
Vibration sensor-10
Remote Keychain-3
In siren-1
Out siren-1
Backup battery-1
Conceal wiring,no pairping,no plastering
RM-1500
Pls contract 0166782351-onn
TQ

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post Sep 11 2013, 01:53 PM


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my paradox so far no problem no false alarm.
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post Sep 11 2013, 01:54 PM


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How long you install already? Which model?

QUOTE(mamasos @ Sep 11 2013, 01:53 PM)
my paradox so far no problem no false alarm.
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post Sep 11 2013, 07:45 PM


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Go for bluguard.. support local product.. using it.. so far so good.
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post Sep 13 2013, 08:09 AM


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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 11 2013, 01:54 PM)
How long you install already? Which model?
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sp6000, and already 4 mths.
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QUOTE(mamasos @ Sep 13 2013, 08:09 AM)
sp6000, and already 4 mths.
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u hv contact number guy how install the sp6000, can PM the contact number?
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QUOTE(onn86 @ Sep 10 2013, 11:14 PM)
Seeing so many bros here list down the quotations they got, I also put down mine, ask the sifus here whether it is a good deal, anyone heard of the alarm brand "Bluguard", was quote by one contractor:

Bluguard alarm panel system 8zone
Keypad-2
PIR motion-1
Magnetic sensor-5
Vibration sensor-10
Remote Keychain-3
In siren-1
Out siren-1
Backup battery-1
Conceal wiring,no pairping,no plastering
RM-1500
Pls contract 0166782351-onn
TQ
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Really, I think you are onn.
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post Sep 16 2013, 10:26 PM


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You can call Winson 0122060138. He is Paradox installer too.

QUOTE(acoimy @ Sep 13 2013, 12:17 PM)
hi,

u hv contact number guy how install the sp6000, can PM the contact number?
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post Sep 16 2013, 11:17 PM


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Paradox can be very difficult in term of technicality. Its not made to be user friendly but very good in term of durability.. Y didnt anyone try ademco, us brand proven many years and user friendly.
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