QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 1 2011, 01:36 PM)
I try to consult a private football academy coach about A license and below are his comment and I quote :
"thats normal (stigma of FAM unofficial requirement that for A must be an ex player)..every coaching course I went..there is someone will say these courses are made to help ex pro. it is not true..im not an ex pro..."
Asked whether he has already applied for his A license :
"nope..not yet...if im not mistaken in Malaysia we have no more than 50 A or Pro Licence coach....if someone know this correct me if im wrong..might be even less than 50...i assume it is difficult..passing rate in Malaysia is one of the toughest in the region...instructor are strict and quality is a must"
For the record he is holding AFC C License , FIFA Grassroot. 'A' license now under AFC and not FAM but FAM chooses the candidate. the only best way to know what their selection criteria are is to ask them directly. For what I know, 'A' License is a very exclusive club and even ex-pro legends like Radhi Mat Din and Hashim Mustapha only have B and perennial assistant coaches. it is that hard for former pros so non ex-pros probably need to make a really strong case to fight off the pre-competition due to the standard.
If I may ask, what makes this blokes comments more credible than the bloke I spoke with who has a B license since he doesn't have an A license either? FairPlay, he does have a C license but from what I'm reading, it seems like an opinion unless these rules are actually written in stone somewhere. Can't seem to find anything conclusive online.
Do you reckon we have many quality coaches in the country? I mean if it is so hard to get an A license, one must assume that our coaches are top notch and if they are, who are they coaching? Without academies, what opportunities do they have to actually coach? With the exception of Lim Teong Kim who had to work for his coaching badge in Germany, how many coaches from our country are sought after, even by football nobodies like Macau?
What concerns me about your last paragraph is that you say the FAM "chooses" the candidates. Any idea what the crtierias for selection are?
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 1 2011, 01:36 PM)
But record shows that local coaches, Sathianathan, K. Rajagobal and Ong Kim Swee have been more successful than all our previous foreign coaches put together. So I don’t think nationality matters in this.
What all 3 coaches have in common advantage over foreign coaches is understanding and time with the players. All of them pick, choose and groom their players since the U-19 stage. So it’s just nice by the time become national team head coach, “their players” has already matured and can be used. Foreign coaches do not have this advantage.
But I sense that our coaches don’t have good enough training and experience in grass root level. So if foreign coaches can help there and there are people supporting that cost, then why not…
Depends on how you define success. When Claude Le Roy was in charge for example, we achieved our highest world ranking ever at 75. No denying we've won the SEA Games and Suzuki Cup but it's obvious that the gap between SEA and the rest of Asia is huge.
You are right, nationality doesn't matter, expertise, exposure and experience does. Familiarizing oneself with local players is a matter of time. The problem is results are expected to be instant and foreign coaches didn't stay long. If you look at SEA countries ranked higher than us, they have benefitted from foreign expertise. Thailand employed Bryan Robson, Indonesia have had foreign managers as they helm since 2000, Vietnam (who was at war during the time we were Asian giants) have had more foreign managers than local ones and look how fast they have progressed. Coincidence? Again, I'm not saying foreign managers are necessarily better but given that football in our region is less developed that the rest of Asia, maybe there is a case.
If anything I think we shot ourselves in the foot by insisting to go all local which is fine provided you have the quality to do so. Why were we ranked higher when our league was semi pro? Maybe it's because we benefitted from having coaches from more developed footballing nations and model professionals to learn from. I mean Thai players can surely benefit from playing alongside someone like Robbie Fowler. It isn't limited to merely technique and ability of the pitch but also what happens off it e.g. Proper diets, workout routines, etc. When Tony Cottee played for Selangor, he complained that he had to wash his own booths because there wasnt a proper structure and there was no apprenticeship where young players had to do all the dirty work until they earned a place in the first team. I think the problem lies in our mental strength. One poster pointed out that Malaysian sportsmen are lazy and he may have a case. Rexy Mainaky once said that our players would complain each time he worked them hard. By making our football apprentices clean boots all the time, maybe we'd break them mentally. Let's face it. We don't take criticism well and by and large, we don't have the mental strength to work through adversity because it's simply easier not to.
Before I stray I need to reiterate that I feel we will benefit from foreign expertise but the FAM needs to let go and place complete faith in whoever is appointed and give him a free reign to revamp whatever he deems necessary.
Added on December 2, 2011, 10:14 amHere's what Lim Teong Kim had to say about Malaysian football.
QUOTE
This a well written interview by Ajitpal Singh of New Straits Times with our former star, Lim Teong Kim who is now the Assistant Coach for the Bayern Munich U-19 squad.
His views are honest and straight to the point and coming from a club with Bayern Munich's stature, it is best we pay heed to his views. I am not going to say anymore but re-produce the interview courtesy of New Straits Times Sports Desk. Of course, let us hope that the "powers-that-be" read, understand and take the proper action rather than follow the 'consultants' advice which hovers around them - always claiming to have the best solutions for what ills Malaysian sports when until today, we are still in the backwaters of international sport save for badminton, squash and bowling.
Here is the interview:
Lim Teong Kim was the first Malaysian footballer to play in Europe when he turned out for German club Hertha Berlin in 1987. A member of the national team that won the 1989 Sea Games gold medal, the Germany-based Teong Kim is on holiday in Malaysia. The 47-year-old shares his thoughts about Malaysian football with Timesports’ AJITPAL SINGH.
Q: What is your opinion on Sports Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek's move on forming a full-time national team?
A: It is not practical if you talk about the technicality of the game. It is pointless to spread the players out to different clubs in Europe as their playing styles will differ when they play as a unit. It will be a huge barrier for the coach and players. Each European country have their own brand of football. The government should not spend millions on this. It is a waste of taxpayers' money. There are other means to develop local football but not like this.
Q: What do you recommend?
A: The national team players should remain in the Malaysian League. I suggest they go on playing tours in Europe three or four times a year. However, they must play with top teams and clubs to learn. Never mind if the team lose 5-0 or 10-0. They should not lose hope if they lose big at the start.
Teong Kim will consider a job here when there are proper facilities. It is a long-term process but it will definitely help in the progress of the team. However, European teams may not be able to accommodate the national team due to their busy international and club-level schedules.
Q: Your opinion on the National Under-23 team's gold medal success in the recent Laos Sea Games?
A: I am not surprised with their achievement as there are often surprises in football. I must congratulate the players and coach K. Rajagobal for their effort. But how do they take their football from here? Proper planning must be made to ensure the team make progress.
Q: Do any of the local players have the ability to make it in Europe?
A: I am not sure of the present team's ability. But the FA of Malaysia (FAM), instead of making big plans, should ask the players whether they want to ply their trade in Europe.The national body and those concerned should not make the decision for the players.In the past, Akmal Rizal and Rudie Ramli had short stints with Bayern Munich at different periods. They stayed and slept in my house in Munich but I noticed that they were getting bored after just three weeks. The duo wanted to go home. A player must have the heart for it or they will fail. However, if a player has the ability, then he should try his luck in Europe.
Q: Is it easy for a footballer to be successful in Europe?
A: It is not easy. When I went there in the late-1980s, I faced many challenges including the language barrier, weather, food, and competition from 'your future' teammates. These factors may affect the player mentally and his confidence level will suffer. The European leagues are very challenging and a person on trial with a club normally gets the cold shoulder from other players. You have no friends in the club as your teammates are thinking about their own importance in the team. They feel you are a threat to them. It was like that when I attended trials with Hertha Berlin, a Division Three Bundesliga team then, in 1987.
Q: Your overall assessment of the infrastructure in Malaysia?
A: How can people talk about football, where there is no proper infrastructure. The current infrastructure is 30 years behind time. Malaysian football will not develop unless the infrastructure here improves. What we have and what I have seen here is not good enough. Maybe it was good enough 20 or 30 years ago but not at the present time.In Bayern Munich, for example, there are seven fields and other facilities are also top class. We have 11 youth teams in age-groups between eight and 23, with more than 100 players. The club allocates E2 million (RM9.7 million) annually for its youths teams. The system is almost the same with other clubs in Europe.We don't have that in Malaysia. Instead, the government and local councils are taking away football fields. I used to play football in my youth days in Bandar Hilir, Malacca. It had three fields but now malls have been built on them. What do we get by building malls? Does it help in the development of a sports culture in Malaysia? We need proper infrastructure in Malaysia. Taxpayers' money, which the government wants to use to send the national team to Europe, should be allocated to building facilities for football. If you want kids to play football then you have to invest in it.
Q: Who should be responsible for developing youth football in Malaysia?
A: The states should play a bigger role in developing youth football. They should do the work and run the programmes but infrastructure must be there first. Sports schools like Bukit Jalil and Bandar Penawar should be supplementary ingredients in this case.
Q: What do you think of the Malaysian League?
A: It is ridiculous not to have foreign players in the league. It does not help in the development of local players. How are Malaysian teams going to compete against bigger Asian clubs in the Champions League and AFC Cup? A Malaysian team cannot rely on local players against clubs with foreign players. It is a huge loss in revenue as they are not good enough to compete against the best in Asian.Why did FAM decide on barring imports from the league? Is it because some teams could not afford foreign players? The association should allow those who can afford to hire them. One cannot look at all teams in the league as equal. Teams, who do not have money for development and foreign players, should be left out. It should be left to the respective clubs on whether to hire foreign players. This is professional football. You cannot tell Bayern Munich not to have foreign players as they need their services in the domestic league and Champions Leagues. The revenue of the club depends on Bayern's first team's performance in the Bundesliga and Champions League and if they don't do well, the club cannot generate income.
Q: Several club-based teams withdrew from the Malaysian League in the past few years. What are your comments?
A: I believe they were there for personal gains. Teams, owned by private and government entities, just wanted to promote and sell their products. It was more of a publicity venture. In the end, who gains? Not Malaysian football, but the ones who sponsored these teams.
Q: Should local football rely on foreign coaches?
A: Yes, because foreign coaches have comprehensive knowledge about the game. I am not saying that local coaches are no good but we need foreign help to take our football to another level. If our ambition is to develop good players, then we have to hire good coaches. For instance, Japan are now Asian giants because they hired top-notched foreign coaches to develop their game at the start.
Q: Will you consider a coaching job in Malaysia?
A: I have been linked before with FAM and state teams but it was only speculation. I will consider working in Malaysia but first several conditions of mine must be accepted. What I want is infrastructure. I will consider a job here when there are proper facilities. The government should start by developing proper infrastructure for a few state teams before developing the rest. It is a slow process but the nation will gain in the long term.
Q: Are you still with the Bayern Munich youth team?
A: Yes I am. I am attached to the Under-19 team as assistant coach. It is my third season now. I have been with the club since 2000 and then I was the coach of the Under-12 team before moving up the ranks. I have worked with two players, when I was coaching the Under-13 and Under-14 teams before, who are now in the Bayern Munich senior side. They are striker Thomas Muller and centreback Bad Badstuber. The duo were not as gifted as some of their teammates in the youth teams but they made it big because of their dedication to training and matches. Muller could be representing Germany in the World Cup.
Q: Coaching a Bundesliga team is a dream for many people. Do you think you can do it?
A: Why not? It is my ambition to coach a team in Germany. I will definitely take up the challenge if given the opportunity.
Q: Are your children following in your footsteps as a footballer?
A: My son, who is now 16, was in the Under-12 Bayern Munich team but he now represents his school. As for my two daughters, the older one is into rock climbing while the other is involved in athletics.
Added on December 2, 2011, 10:21 amNote his comments on mental strength, investment in a youth set up and foreign expertise. We've read opinions from friends and friends of friends but I feel Lim Teong Kim is a credible source given his exposure in one of the world's top leagues and youth set ups.
This post has been edited by Duke Red: Dec 2 2011, 10:22 AM 
Nov 14 2011, 08:47 AM
Quote
got or not....
.
0.0300sec
0.20
6 queries
GZIP Disabled