Buy now, upgrade later via 2 methods
i) resell & rebuy
ii) removed engine & install new skyactiv engine alone but costing

Buy now, upgrade later via 2 methods
i) resell & rebuy
ii) removed engine & install new skyactiv engine alone but costing

i hope can resell and rebuy lo.. but wonder how much 'damage' will i get nia..

Sell to me after 1 yr... but make sure drop 20k from market price 

Wahhh... U think every1 so kaya meh?
I got "roti kaya" ny...

If can do that way, might as well get the CX5, take the engine & replace with M3?
Kekeke...

Bro,
I went to Mazda showroom with my 2 friends, they wanted to have CX5 & the dealer said 6-9 months.
My friends agreed & ask the dealer for the contract like this:

i) Both of them agreed to take CX5 at 2 units with the deposit of RM2k
ii) In return, the CX5 ll be delivered within 6-8 months, if later then 8 mths or 240 days (30x8=240), dealers ll need to compensate DOUBLE.
iii) The deal is off, dealer can't promised but if 12 months, he said ok

Conclusion
1) Tax for SUV not as high as Sedan/HB as it's NOT direct compete with our nasional car.
2) To avoid high demands, government set up a rules to control by setting the quota.
That is Y the waiting list is up to a year (same case with Prius C scenario).
If U don't believe this, bring your cash to those countries practices open market like Australia or US & see how long the waiting ll be, takes AP bring back to Msia.
3) Mazda is 1 step in ahead their competitors, especially T & H in skyactiv engine. They invented this engine for their biz to generate profits & NOT just to play-play.
SUV (CX5) vs Salon (M3)
Both segment with difference customers. Example, I am NOT appreciate CX5 even though can get it now withiout Qas my dish is a sports car (M3).
Mazda is not stupid like P1
T & H used to bully us as our loyalty mindset (Thai' ppl always 1 step ahead us). Example, Thailand lauched leather black interior for our uncle car (Altis), Civic L spec, 6 -9 months later it reached us (we r behind). Last 9 months back, Vios with push start but where are we?
If I said, we loyalt to H & T, so that they take granted on us, NOT SMART right?
Unlike M, understand needs or wants for their customers to be fulfill.
If they bring skyactiv engine, do u thing lll help their M3 biz?
i) By logic also, how huge M3 demands ll be increase if M3 with skyactiv?
Design & engine unbeatble (smart guy get inspira but pure smart + intelligent guy get M3).
ii) Don't u think M3 ll be happy if their local assemble (CKD) & demands for M3 as great as CX5 due to skyactiv?
Can M3 hit uncle car for T & unggly + stupid design from H?

Based on M3 CBU model, do u know Malaysia is the 2nd counry to enjoy this model (2009) aft Japan.
We are ahead not only Thailand but SEA. Unless u buy T & H, u ll always be behind Thailand (yet still happy)

Finally.
Bros, M3 ll 100% (not 99.9% unsure- like liquip detergent advertisement) installed their skyactiv engine in M3.
I really ve this infomation from someone realible but I ll not betray him as at the 1st place, he is not really comfortable to tell me. Since he closed to me, he ask me not to rush for the current M3 as I ll regret (skyactiv really powerful engine with EXTREMELY low FC, 6L/100KM ll be here soon, worth to wait)

Hope this info ll help our bros here in their decision in M3
If u are in hurry, buy now sell later but if u are NOT, just wait

Finally...Getting my facelift 2.0 HB in 2 weeks time!
Not many time in my life for hoping the weekend to be past as soon as it could... 

Finally...Getting my facelift 2.0 HB in 2 weeks time!
Not many time in my life for hoping the weekend to be past as soon as it could... 

congratulation!! i am so envy~~

Congratz bro... Now I'm jealous..
I bought my M3 less than 1 month ago...

Thanks bro!
Seriously? It's a sedan or HB?

Bro,
I went to Mazda showroom with my 2 friends, they wanted to have CX5 & the dealer said 6-9 months.
My friends agreed & ask the dealer for the contract like this:

i) Both of them agreed to take CX5 at 2 units with the deposit of RM2k
ii) In return, the CX5 ll be delivered within 6-8 months, if later then 8 mths or 240 days (30x8=240), dealers ll need to compensate DOUBLE.
iii) The deal is off, dealer can't promised but if 12 months, he said ok

Conclusion
1) Tax for SUV not as high as Sedan/HB as it's NOT direct compete with our nasional car.
2) To avoid high demands, government set up a rules to control by setting the quota.
That is Y the waiting list is up to a year (same case with Prius C scenario).
If U don't believe this, bring your cash to those countries practices open market like Australia or US & see how long the waiting ll be, takes AP bring back to Msia.
3) Mazda is 1 step in ahead their competitors, especially T & H in skyactiv engine. They invented this engine for their biz to generate profits & NOT just to play-play.
SUV (CX5) vs Salon (M3)
Both segment with difference customers. Example, I am NOT appreciate CX5 even though can get it now withiout Qas my dish is a sports car (M3).
Mazda is not stupid like P1
T & H used to bully us as our loyalty mindset (Thai' ppl always 1 step ahead us). Example, Thailand lauched leather black interior for our uncle car (Altis), Civic L spec, 6 -9 months later it reached us (we r behind). Last 9 months back, Vios with push start but where are we?
If I said, we loyalt to H & T, so that they take granted on us, NOT SMART right?
Unlike M, understand needs or wants for their customers to be fulfill.
If they bring skyactiv engine, do u thing lll help their M3 biz?
i) By logic also, how huge M3 demands ll be increase if M3 with skyactiv?
Design & engine unbeatble (smart guy get inspira but pure smart + intelligent guy get M3).
ii) Don't u think M3 ll be happy if their local assemble (CKD) & demands for M3 as great as CX5 due to skyactiv?
Can M3 hit uncle car for T & unggly + stupid design from H?

Based on M3 CBU model, do u know Malaysia is the 2nd counry to enjoy this model (2009) aft Japan.
We are ahead not only Thailand but SEA. Unless u buy T & H, u ll always be behind Thailand (yet still happy)

Finally.
Bros, M3 ll 100% (not 99.9% unsure- like liquip detergent advertisement) installed their skyactiv engine in M3.
I really ve this infomation from someone realible but I ll not betray him as at the 1st place, he is not really comfortable to tell me. Since he closed to me, he ask me not to rush for the current M3 as I ll regret (skyactiv really powerful engine with EXTREMELY low FC, 6L/100KM ll be here soon, worth to wait)

Hope this info ll help our bros here in their decision in M3
If u are in hurry, buy now sell later but if u are NOT, just wait

I went to test drive the all new Civic. It is a big disappointment. The whole dashboard covered with hard plastic. Acceleration not as powerful as our m3 and the steering wheel was so loose u feel like overturning the car anytime. 2.0l without touch screen (the touch screen is one hideous looking 3rd party slap on equipment) cost RM132k with insurance. I swear to god I am not being bias or one sided here, once I stepped into the Mazda3. It feels so solid, expensive and luxurious compared to the new civic. Everything feels so tough in the m3.

I went to test drive the all new Civic. It is a big disappointment. The whole dashboard covered with hard plastic. Acceleration not as powerful as our m3 and the steering wheel was so loose u feel like overturning the car anytime. 2.0l without touch screen (the touch screen is one hideous looking 3rd party slap on equipment) cost RM132k with insurance. I swear to god I am not being bias or one sided here, once I stepped into the Mazda3. It feels so solid, expensive and luxurious compared to the new civic. Everything feels so tough in the m3.

cheers up buddy. we all know what happen due to our beloved (hatred to be honest) import tax which supporting our national car (does it still consider national car since is wholly owned by DRB now).

anyway, I can only cay chance of getting Mazda 3 facelift with Skyactiv is low (same as detergent advertisment, 99.9%  ) as I have seen Mazda 3 facelift photo which has assembled in the CKD plant, no Skyactiv installed atthat moment.

I do 200% happy if Skyactiv is installed on the facelift model which will launch in 1 month later which stated in previous post by another buddy. Let's see how is the new facelift model and we will know.

I bought the sedan... Prefer the sedan's shape..

i think the facelift 100% do not comes with skyactive.
and the skyactive may comes in end of 2013 or 2014.

if they are bringing in early 2013, why they still launch the facelift nx month? and the facelift do comes with push start button and some additional gadgets which means cost adding.
Now they are clearing stock to make way for d facelift and whn skyactive come in they have to clear stock again at the end of 2012? This kind of marketing strategy is just dont make sense to me..

but if skyactive is really coming on next year, its a good news! 

Dear all Bros,

Current model, Bermaz keep high inventory
Solution : Clearance stocks with Rebate

Once cleared (expected Sept 2012) new facelift ll be launched (no disscount & no skyactiv), but demands ll increase due to changes in facelif (marketing strategy).
New facelift, vehicles are ready to launched but current M3 momentum so slow.

Dec 2012 & Jan 2013, clearance stocks for M3 new facelift
Bermaz still keep high inventory for the current engine, because the purchased in bulk to enjoy economy scale (quantity discount).

Expected 2013 (once current engine cleared), skyactiv engine ll be installed. Just wait & see, some time in Mid 2013.

New facelift for
1.6 (front & tail bumper, cost RM1,100 & RM1,500).
If u ve current model, be able to convert
2.0 (front & tail  bumper + white speed meter & push start)
Costing to convert

For the time being, Bermaz refused to tell us when M3 with skyactiv engine but trust me buddy, very soon.
Just wait till 2013
M3 with new facelift, at least the sales momentum ll be up, bcoz it' though time to clear current old model with tradisonal engine.

Bermaz & the sales staffs ll surely unhappy with my statement but this forum is to discuss everything about M3 in honest, to let all bros info, even though I knew I am NOT suppose to leak.
Sorry, really am

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Added on July 13, 2012, 6:47 pm

Bro,
Before u say this, I knew it from the US magazine, US ppl so MAD about 9th gen Civic.
Nowadays TATA NANO launched cheap car RM2K to compete, as well as Suzuki Alto (cheap car) but due to HUGE tax, that car turn to be expensive in Msia (India NOT in 11 countries list to enjoy AFTA lower tax).
9th Gen Civic is cutting cost vehicle, price is damn cheap in abroad, & US ppl blame Honda for lower quality (refer to cheap plastic dashboad, open up bonet & see FENDER also cut cost, not enough steel on body, can see underwear also & many more things to blame).
SOHC engine (down grade) & pls check what happened in US, check yourself!!
Is it RECALL due to fuel leakage?

Honda realise this issue & in the process of redesign & ll launch their Civic gen-10 very soon, again wait & see
But In Malaysia, no problem, with the name of Honda, u can simply over mark up the price.
If u don't believe, ask Honda to bring flinstone car RM30K & Honda emblem cost RM100k = RM130k also sellable.

Uncle car from T family also the same, Thai ppl more advance then us
Vios Push Start is common there but 1 year later, wow factor for the stupid T fan

Honestly, Civic launched on 12/7/12 (7pm) but I viewed them on 10/7/12 at 8am in stocks yard.
If u involved God to support your statment,
I also dare to swear to Mr GOD that I really feel like vommiting when I view the ugly & stupid car (slaughter price).
My heart says silently, OMG if which DONKIES ll purchased it with this price.
If discount by RM50K I still Not interested, really shame to drive (preve front & personal tail, weird model + cheap material).
I wonder, what type of customer ll spend so much cash to get such donkey design?

I am willing to wait for a year just for M3 (skyactiv)
Don't talk about hybrid (low price & high maintenance aft warranty over in 5 years, u ll bloody cry to replace dynamo cost u RM10k-RM30k)

Hybrid engine only function when u drive below 60km/h but ll switch to normal fuel engine once speed exceed 60km/h. Hybrid impact are:
i) high replacement cost RM10k-RM30k (aft 5 years as life span 5-10 years depend on luck)
ii) not a performance car, not man for power but man for an old stingy man
iii) Hybrid more is NOT a GREEN engine, bcoz u'll make more polution (aft the life span is over, when u through it)

What is Skyactiv?
World latest technology that shake the world citizen but NOT Malaysian (only H & T shake us + P1, P2 & P3 (Naza)
It's not a Hybrid engine but saved your FC drastically 6L/100km (10cents/km, aft GE-13 may be 15 cents) but current 2L M3 engine is 14L/100km (25 cents/km, aft election 30 cents++/km) & the most important thing is U DON'T NEED K&N equipment to increase power as it can produce 155PS with smooth gear box (mostly all the auto gear box facing this problem).
These are major improvement where NOT available in normal brand except Audi & WV + Mer, BMW & Volvo

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Added on July 13, 2012, 7:15 pm

Honda NOT produce touche screen, as well as M, T & including P1, P2 & P3 (Naza)
All get from the 3rd party, this is call B2B (biz to biz)
Like tyres also not produce by mercedes but mechelin
It's depend on the company what brand ll they buy
Example : Vios Brigestone tyre, P1 Sime tyre

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Added on July 13, 2012, 7:22 pm

Make it simple, trust my statement
Now, current M3,
once cleared Sept new facelft (no skyactiv), Demands ll increase
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 Clearance new facelift (tradisional engine)
2013 once tradisional engine over, syactiv ll be installed in M3 (date unsure, depend on how fast they can cleared their current engine). Expected by mid 2013
FYI, if anyone just get ur M3, see how many 000000 at front, this is to determint number of units (local assemble), but sad to say, very low unit produced for CKD as low demands
U may open your eyes to count on the road, hoa many market share for M3 on the road (mostly T & H)

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Added on July 13, 2012, 7:24 pm

1.6 or 2.0?
Seriously 1.6 under power?

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Added on July 13, 2012, 7:33 pm

Changing facelift not costing, example:
Front bumper RM1,100
Rear bumper RM1,500
Speed meter, not costing as changing color
Push start also not costing
But can't change the engine due to high inventory stocks for engine, bcoz they purchase in bulk to enjoy economy scare price

By doing launching new facelift
it's a refreshment to increase sales momentum
again, when they are ready, M3 with facelift & skyactiv

By Logic
If they said Skyactiv in new facelif ll launch
Do u thing it's EZ to clear current model?
Drop RM20k also not impressing
But, their current strategy can
i) help clear current stk with some discount
ii) normal price for new facelift
iii) cleared new facelift (not costing with some changes) with some discount & launch all new skyactiv

Simple, u got it?
I dont wanna tell u where I get this statement bcoz it tend to be like betray someone I PROMISED not to
Trust what I said & shut your mouth
Dont argue

Dear all Bros,

Current model, Bermaz keep high inventory
Solution : Clearance stocks with Rebate

Once cleared (expected Sept 2012) new facelift ll be launched (no disscount & no skyactiv), but demands ll increase due to changes in facelif (marketing strategy).
New facelift, vehicles are ready to launched but current M3 momentum so slow.

Dec 2012 & Jan 2013, clearance stocks for M3 new facelift
Bermaz still keep high inventory for the current engine, because the purchased in bulk to enjoy economy scale (quantity discount).

Expected 2013 (once current engine cleared), skyactiv engine ll be installed. Just wait & see, some time in Mid 2013.

New facelift for
1.6 (front & tail bumper, cost RM1,100 & RM1,500).
If u ve current model, be able to convert
2.0 (front & tail  bumper + white speed meter & push start)
Costing to convert

For the time being, Bermaz refused to tell us when M3 with skyactiv engine but trust me buddy, very soon.
Just wait till 2013
M3 with new facelift, at least the sales momentum ll be up, bcoz it' though time to clear current old model with tradisonal engine.

Bermaz & the sales staffs ll surely unhappy with my statement but this forum is to discuss everything about M3 in honest, to let all bros info, even though I knew I am NOT suppose to leak.
Sorry, really am

---

Added on July 13, 2012, 6:47 pm

Bro,
Before u say this, I knew it from the US magazine, US ppl so MAD about 9th gen Civic.
Nowadays TATA NANO launched cheap car RM2K to compete, as well as Suzuki Alto (cheap car) but due to HUGE tax, that car turn to be expensive in Msia (India NOT in 11 countries list to enjoy AFTA lower tax).
9th Gen Civic is cutting cost vehicle, price is damn cheap in abroad, & US ppl blame Honda for lower quality (refer to cheap plastic dashboad, open up bonet & see FENDER also cut cost, not enough steel on body, can see underwear also & many more things to blame).
SOHC engine (down grade) & pls check what happened in US, check yourself!!
Is it RECALL due to fuel leakage?

Honda realise this issue & in the process of redesign & ll launch their Civic gen-10 very soon, again wait & see
But In Malaysia, no problem, with the name of Honda, u can simply over mark up the price.
If u don't believe, ask Honda to bring flinstone car RM30K & Honda emblem cost RM100k = RM130k also sellable.

Uncle car from T family also the same, Thai ppl more advance then us
Vios Push Start is common there but 1 year later, wow factor for the stupid T fan

Honestly, Civic launched on 12/7/12 (7pm) but I viewed them on 10/7/12 at 8am in stocks yard.
If u involved God to support your statment,
I also dare to swear to Mr GOD that I really feel like vommiting when I view the ugly & stupid car (slaughter price).
My heart says silently, OMG if which DONKIES ll purchased it with this price.
If discount by RM50K I still Not interested, really shame to drive (preve front & personal tail, weird model + cheap material).
I wonder, what type of customer ll spend so much cash to get such donkey design?

I am willing to wait for a year just for M3 (skyactiv)
Don't talk about hybrid (low price & high maintenance aft warranty over in 5 years, u ll bloody cry to replace dynamo cost u RM10k-RM30k)

Hybrid engine only function when u drive below 60km/h but ll switch to normal fuel engine once speed exceed 60km/h. Hybrid impact are:
i) high replacement cost RM10k-RM30k (aft 5 years as life span 5-10 years depend on luck)
ii) not a performance car, not man for power but man for an old stingy man
iii) Hybrid more is NOT a GREEN engine, bcoz u'll make more polution (aft the life span is over, when u through it)

What is Skyactiv?
World latest technology that shake the world citizen but NOT Malaysian (only H & T shake us + P1, P2 & P3 (Naza)
It's not a Hybrid engine but saved your FC drastically 6L/100km (10cents/km, aft GE-13 may be 15 cents) but current 2L M3 engine is 14L/100km (25 cents/km, aft election 30 cents++/km) & the most important thing is U DON'T NEED K&N equipment to increase power as it can produce 155PS with smooth gear box (mostly all the auto gear box facing this problem).
These are major improvement where NOT available in normal brand except Audi & WV + Mer, BMW & Volvo

---

Added on July 13, 2012, 7:15 pm

Honda NOT produce touche screen, as well as M, T & including P1, P2 & P3 (Naza)
All get from the 3rd party, this is call B2B (biz to biz)
Like tyres also not produce by mercedes but mechelin
It's depend on the company what brand ll they buy
Example : Vios Brigestone tyre, P1 Sime tyre

---

Added on July 13, 2012, 7:22 pm

Make it simple, trust my statement
Now, current M3,
once cleared Sept new facelft (no skyactiv), Demands ll increase
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 Clearance new facelift (tradisional engine)
2013 once tradisional engine over, syactiv ll be installed in M3 (date unsure, depend on how fast they can cleared their current engine). Expected by mid 2013
FYI, if anyone just get ur M3, see how many 000000 at front, this is to determint number of units (local assemble), but sad to say, very low unit produced for CKD as low demands
U may open your eyes to count on the road, hoa many market share for M3 on the road (mostly T & H)

---

Added on July 13, 2012, 7:24 pm

1.6 or 2.0?
Seriously 1.6 under power?

---

Added on July 13, 2012, 7:33 pm

Changing facelift not costing, example:
Front bumper RM1,100
Rear bumper RM1,500
Speed meter, not costing as changing color
Push start also not costing
But can't change the engine due to high inventory stocks for engine, bcoz they purchase in bulk to enjoy economy scare price

By doing launching new facelift
it's a refreshment to increase sales momentum
again, when they are ready, M3 with facelift & skyactiv

By Logic
If they said Skyactiv in new facelif ll launch
Do u thing it's EZ to clear current model?
Drop RM20k also not impressing
But, their current strategy can
i) help clear current stk with some discount
ii) normal price for new facelift
iii) cleared new facelift (not costing with some changes) with some discount & launch all new skyactiv

Simple, u got it?
I dont wanna tell u where I get this statement bcoz it tend to be like betray someone I PROMISED not to
Trust what I said & shut your mouth
Dont argue

So for the new facelift which will be launching on 1-2 months, are they using the latest rear & front bumper from m3 skyactiv (without skyactiv engine) ?