Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrkrvAUbU9Y&feature=relmfu

Career analyst Dan Pink examines the puzzle of motivation, starting with a fact that social scientists know but most managers don't: Traditional rewards aren't always as effective as we think. Listen for illuminating stories -- and maybe, a way forward.



And that is why a lot of managers suck, particularly Malaysians, since I am a Malaysian myself.

What are your views?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Oct 18 2011, 07:06 AM

I watch it twice and still cannot understand what he is talking about, only the part that I already know where the reward practice is ineffective to a point but is practical and the best way initially.

It only means we cannot over use or limit ourselves with standard practice, the candle thing don't work for brick wall, so the point is narrow and only applicable to American.

It is also the purpose of this video not to follow exactly the methods used in different society, the old method still works here because we are developing country and everything we do is expected, it is in the history of the developed countries.

Nope, you are wrong. Haven't you heard that the experiment was also tested in India, and the results are the same? And the candle experiment mentioned it very well that while traditional rewards can be good, but it limits creativity and productivity for jobs which do not require a tunnel vision method of resolving a task, which is the very nature of today's many middle income occupation.

Watched twice and still don't understand. Perhaps you need to improve your English before watching the video first?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Oct 18 2011, 10:57 AM

Ah, now I know why I don't understand it. I am not in that category, only people who are limited by what he mention will realize they are doing it wrong, he is not a genius and my English is poor but my intelligent is not, so, no big deal.

As for me, I will file the candle base to an angle and fasten it to the wall, don't need the stuff from his experiment limit.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Oct 18 2011, 03:49 PM

If you have watched, and listened, nobody is trying to fit you into the category. He is speaking on behalf for white collar, middle-class employees.

You self-proclaimed your intelligence to be valid, but you disallowed it to be questioned? How different are you to those who doesn't even know nor admit that they have a chance they may be short-changed with moments which questions your intellect because they are strongly governed by ego and their insecurity of being stupid , and yet you, who self-proclaimed to be intellectual by sugar-coating the accusation that your command of English is poor, and do not know any better?

I know, that I know, that I don't know, but you? You don't even know of what you do not know. And that is no better than an African-American rappers who brags to the world that they are unstoppable, and yet still get caught by the police.

Yea, that is what I like to hear, getting boring in PhD and some genius talk about how he finally realized we are just follower, silly candle experiment and I proved to be different, don't need to be good in English to be intelligent, I can read Chinese and Malay not like the African American you know but your level of ego is what I like to bring out.

I do wonder where are all the acting PhD since the beginning of this thread, they then turn up somewhere talking crap.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Oct 19 2011, 01:22 AM

Tsk tsk tsk.

While I am pinpointing your lack of attention and ignorance towards the video which leads you to think it is stereotypically American, you retorted and became defensive how intellectual you actually are, and effectively dragging yourself into series of other defensive acts to protect your intelligence, as if it is fragile.

Insecure much?

How old are you?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Oct 19 2011, 01:25 AM

Must I meet your level of ego to say I am intelligent? Why does age matter? older means wiser? Because you say so? Have you taken the candle challenge yourself? I did, so what is your result? If you have nothing, don't insult others.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Oct 19 2011, 01:29 AM

In case your intelligence didn't tell you, the candle "challenge" is actually an experiment to represent as an analogy to most white collar, middle income earners.

So when you asked me, "Have you taken the candle challenge yourself?", I shook my head.

My ego? Every post you have entered gets corrected by its foundation due to either your own misunderstandings, and simply by your own ignorance.

Reply to this if you will, I have no time for kids.

You are the one who posted this topic but you are not in the middle income earners, so you too don't know what you are talking about except showing off. I am lower than middle income means I should take the candle test and see how I fair. That is the kind of attitude I have that surpass the category yet you say its not about group of people, ain't intelligent after all and show your racial hatred that are unrelated to your own topic just because smart S being challenged by orangutan

Took the challenge and derived my own solution, you dare not because you are the intended audience of the video, yea talking about your kind, it matters to you and think its worthy to post?

This may be Asian forum but not all are orangutan and African gorilla that you discriminate, racist old man.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Oct 19 2011, 09:40 AM

Agreed with the new model, but don't think ROWE would work in Malaysia.

I would suggest add him to ignore list. I have been through a myriad of posts here and he seems to be one of those "rejectors" biased towards his own beliefs with little to no regard of others' opinions. Monday blues must have caught on hard on him or got his mind wrapped around things too much. Or he is just a kid. Read his posts via others quoting him since I added him to ignore list some time ago. It is people like him that cloud your thoughts and prevent you from speaking your mind.

Why you bother? Since you know nothing can stop us posting except rubbish, if I can continue to post, means its not. This is not a place to inculcate ego and stupidity that cannot be challenged, no opinion is right and wrong and up for debate and that is all there is if you choose to post, otherwise go do something else but barged in just to show your emotion and shallow mind.

Now I realized, it is people like you that I continue to visit lowyat.net Why add me to ignore list? Don't bother to add lah, just ignore and shut up.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Oct 20 2011, 02:49 PM

I AM a middle income earner, genius.

You don't get it. The test IS MEANT for average income earners. Understand? How did your own challenge which you have took, and whatever you have derived effect anything to do with the experiment?

And how am I being racist when I am only attributing things to you individually? Are you really that stupid?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Nov 18 2011, 06:16 AM

What does that has to do with this topic and if you are not as stupid, I think I am average income, so I took the test to see if I can make a difference and I did, you dare not just because you claim to be a middle income genius. Is this topic tangible?

This thread totally off topic...

in case someone say its their right to post watever they like,
if the TS started with a relevant topic in the particular section
posted replies should be relevant to the topic as well for other ppl to perform further discussion on the topic

But now its turn out that this thread is just insulting and arguing due to different belief
no point posting wat other people think about the topic already

This thread looks serious...