why dont u guys do something like zth?

there is a i-trader rating thingy.

heheh good idea~ i-rating and comment together is easier for client/forummer view on trader/forummers status

good idea bro fstrader

There's a Successful trade list created...but there's a lot of unwanted rubbish message, each member should only post only once in there.

Again and again, i still see lots of lousy seller at here.
There's no hard and fast rule on how to trade safely...it depends on individual. For me, i won't spend a single cent to trade if i feel it is not secure.

Most of the posting at handphone garage sales, i don't even bother to read for >2seconds if the information is incomplete...
I won't trade(buy from seller) that 'meet' the following criterias
- Strictly no COD- Posting information is inaccurate/incomplete(I have seen alot of the seller, types only few words, XXX product for sale, sms 014-55201314. WTF is this advertisement?? There's a ready made template for you, you only need to key in more information(item details, wrty, package contents, dealing method, contact and shipping details, etc).
- Bank in name does not match with seller name
- Product pricing. (Example: Oh yeah, today i bought myself a W850i, weeks later, i am interested to let it go...only rm30 cheaper than the market price??)
- Fishy posting, eg: brand new handphone selling price lower than the cost price...?? Lots of youngster borned with 'golden key', trading blindly and finally get conned. It's their money so i canNot do anything with it, i suggest them pay me the money and 1year later, i return them the money with interest given(capital guarantee and interest given)..haha...
- Negotiation style(Example: price rm500 state on the post(it doesn't state firm/negotiable...so i PM the seller rm450. It's actually a k750 AP, 1year++, no more wrty...fuiyyoo..the seller reply back, KUALA LUMPUR people offer rm500 LA....another lousy salesperson who won't get success in their sales journey..)

just my rm0.0002.

This post has been edited by ralf: Jan 23 2007, 12:07 AM

Started Oct 12 2005 and thread is still here. If anyone's reading this, here's my opinion:

Two problems, two solutions.

Problem 1: Conman
Make the sellers apply for 'Details Verified' status.
Sellers will need to submit copies of IC and bank account book/statement, both stating the same name.
Buyers should be made aware that for safety sake, only bank in to the account(s) submitted by seller.

Problem 2: Rating
Just select the best solution as suggested in previous posts.
Or maybe just stick with the successful trade list.

[quote=sotplug,Feb 8 2007, 01:15 AM]
Started Oct 12 2005 and thread is still here. If anyone's reading this, here's my opinion:

Two problems, two solutions.

Problem 1: Conman
Make the sellers apply for 'Details Verified' status.
Sellers will need to submit copies of IC and bank account book/statement, both stating the same name.
Buyers should be made aware that for safety sake, only bank in to the account(s) submitted by seller.

NO USE FREN, CAUSE LYN DUN WAN TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ON THIS KINDA THINGS..................

i hav propose numerous times, everytime some arrogant mods will shoot me down hands down wif their own opinions
and i now believe tat some conmen ...................................

i read 3 pg n this is wat i'm looking for...i think lelong sys is v nice...register hp ,email n ic...anyway...it's time consuming...
D ADVANTAGES
which i have plan to do ealier but no experience so dun dare try it...
d mod can earn money by doing this service...each person must pay some amount to become a member of this forum. i can't imagine d num of member here....but most duplicated so m i...i din use my ex ac cos i wanna change my name...i like happpyboy more...hehe...

bout rating
i support those who said bout lelong....d rating sys is nice...

bout conman
how u gonna catch them? even lelong...there's lots of conman....d best solution is safetrade....when there's a middleman who help in dealing d thread...but any1 willing to pay extra for tat....for me i dun use tat service because i play safe....how bout newbie?

dun dare giv too much comment....it takes time so gd luck to all of u....u guys are d best cos willing to spend time n energy doing this....

Actually LYN dun need to take any extra responsibilities.

It's just like the sellers using the documents to apply for a tag. Something like the safe trade tag. Difference is their 'verified' bank account number will be shown in the tag/profile.

So if something happens, LYN can at least provide the buyer with the documents (which will include IC number, address in IC and address from bank book/statement). Follow-up actions will then depend on the buyer. LYN job done.

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Added on February 27, 2007, 12:51 pm* Sellers sending in documents for verification should 'watermarked' the documents properly. LYN no responsibility.

* Unverified sellers can still sell. The risk is on buyers. LYN no responsibility.

* Verified sellers can ask buyers to bank-in to other accounts. The risk is on buyers. LYN no responsibility.

* Buyer got conned by verified sellers. LYN just provide documents. No other responsibilities.

* Come to think of it, LYN can even charge a minor processing fee such as RM1 or RM2 for application. It's the charges for processing and safekeeping the documents. No other responsibilities.

This post has been edited by sotplug: Feb 27 2007, 12:51 PM

yeah...i'm agree with what you mention all about....that's good ideal, I prefer if let others buyers....even newbie always can be believe on our seller....I always hope that all buyers can buy from seller with confidence even by post.
And I think, once the seller got any bad feedback, then in forum I think the name/ID will be popular....hehe....so even he/she want to re-register again, then IC should be duplicated....then...conman hard need to find other way to re-register all again....

yup this can avoid victim got cheated. im also agree

ME TOO REALY2 AGREED WITH YOU

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Added on June 10, 2007, 9:08 pmbro your comment is good and i very2 agree with your statement "bout conman"...

This post has been edited by ihsan_29: Jun 10 2007, 09:08 PM

aiyaaa giv cash rebate larr...hehe

conman with nice mask

CoNMaN TeTaP CoNMaN.....
So.....All trader pls trade with caution.......

digilife, dun mind me asking about the con man u state there

CON MAN FROM ALOR GAJAH, MELAKA

YEOW WERN CHERN

CIMB Bank ac no 04120003815522

id in LYN plussonic and takuyo

contact no 017 6322729 and 016 6790151


is he a really con man? coz i've seen that name before but i can't remember it..

anybody please help me to find this conman.he con me rm200.i had bank in for the phone nokia 6600 ut the phone still not arrive until today.last friday i had bank in and he tell me that he had send the packages by skynet but later i call him back nothing.... if anybody know him please tell me.i make a police report today coz i had wait 3day.

conman name: LIM SANG HENG
account number: 101030076113
phone number: 0128963490

REMEMBER good seller/buyer dun go and disturb or comment on ppl's thread!
This is not fair!!

takuyo, Is he a real conman??
Coz i deal with takuyo before...
His name is Tan Kuan Yong..
But he kept his promise that time while i deal with him...
Not so sure about it now...

just follow lar the www.lelong.com.my rating/feedback system

By chance I clicked on this thread and wow, you quoted something I said TWO years ago! I find that rather ammusing

Anyway, to those saying that the mods/admin aren't taking a more active role etc etc blah blah blah, do note that this is a TECH forum to discus TECH-y things with the purpose of sharing/discussing information. The garage sales is just a side thingy. Let us not lose track of the main purpose of this forum. LYN is not Lelong, not eBay or whatever other online auction/buy sell site.

We're an online community that love techie stuff and discuss techie stuff. From the computer and it's peripherals to the mobile phones and it's many accessories. So yes, I reiterate by saying "Let us not forget what LYN stands for".

Considering what the mods and admins have done to keep trade safe here, we should be congratulating and thanking them instead. Most of those in charge don't even get payed to do all this. They're just lending a helping hand. What do we repay them with? Saying they're not doing their job and calling them names. I notice one particular attention whore who posts useless crap in the forum (with the pretense of "sharing" information) and berates the moderator for enforcing the rules which he violated. Show some manners people!

But I digress. It's cool to discuss ideas, but let's not tax the mods/admins/staff eh? They've done a great job as it is. Let's discuss constructive things. Don't just diss them.

Then again, I'm sure my post would neither be read nor acknowledge but instead be pushed up by ignorant spams of

"Lelong is better!"
"Why don't the mods do something!"
"Let's just do away with the forum concept and start a lelong-look-alike!"

etc etc.

Sigh. What happened to this forum?