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 using 5w20 on 5w30 engine, how bad can it get in reality?

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vr2turbo
post Oct 18 2011, 05:12 PM

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My friend use before in Honda CT. Seems it won't evaporate (disappear) if revs kept below 3to 4k rpm.
Highway runs then seems to consume some oil.
Another friend in his kelisa use 5w-30 2L mixed with 5w-20 1L...... tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2011, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Oct 18 2011, 05:23 PM)
i did that in myvi but was running Redline oil and from 10k to 20k je
no lost in oil
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5w-20 oil??
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post Oct 19 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Oct 18 2011, 07:21 PM)
2 quarts redline 5w-30  + 1 quart redline 5w-20.
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Oh! like my friend.....


Added on October 19, 2011, 8:29 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 18 2011, 07:45 PM)
is it ok to mix different viscosity rating oil?
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Same brand of oil..... tongue.gif


Added on October 19, 2011, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 19 2011, 03:22 PM)
pump still works with rotation of the engine purely mechanically. If you put water through the pump, it's just not thick enough to maintain the oil pressure. I'm sorry I don't really know how to put it in words mate.
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Too thin or no volume, but I think 5w-20 still have the volume, but not sure can stand how hot?

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post Oct 20 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 19 2011, 09:41 PM)
what about different brand, same viscosity? because i need to get rid of some left over hi-rev semi syn my mom used to use for her car. thats pretty shit compared to torco, but yea the price. i guess its justifiable LOL
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What car? For my old car actually I do mix. Some time needs some top up, so see what is available.... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 21 2011, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Oct 20 2011, 07:59 PM)
just found out something useful about oil pressure vs. flow. apparently good lubrication can be dependant mainly on oil flow, not on the pressure.

lower oil pressure gives more rapid flow rate which is better at minimizing wear especially at high engine speed

further info is here:
http://lubricants.s5.com/oil_pressure.htm
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If high pressure means block also...... tongue.gif


Added on October 21, 2011, 8:22 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 20 2011, 08:54 PM)
4+ year old nissan sentra, ok to mix? lol


Added on October 21, 2011, 1:20 pm
so anyone can provide a definitive answer to if we can mix oils of different brands/different viscosity regardless of car model/year?

if yes, why?

if no, why?
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To me is Yes. No chemical reaction and have use many times like that, even FS mix with SS oil.....hahahhaha biggrin.gif

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post Oct 21 2011, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Oct 21 2011, 08:32 PM)
huh..?
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If oil pressure becomes too high, oil channels may be blocked......


Added on October 21, 2011, 9:01 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 21 2011, 08:33 PM)
hmm mine are all semi syn, so i guess no harm trying it out on my old iswara. maybe can leave the Sentra out lol
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Have been using for years, especially when change brands, and viscosity. Then get balance here and there, so mix and use loh... biggrin.gif

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post Oct 22 2011, 02:52 PM

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Best is still to follow car manufacturer recommendation in car manual...
If modify a bit may be okay but not too much.
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post Oct 25 2011, 07:41 PM

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Not sure, but racing oil do not have additives for prolong use or something....my 2 sens.... blush.gif
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post Oct 26 2011, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Oct 26 2011, 01:56 AM)
yea just found out that too, apparently there are less or no detergent like calcium, boron and magnesium
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They only want the oil for lubrication and one race only, then change already.....
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post Dec 1 2011, 01:16 PM

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Changing at 5k km??
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post Dec 4 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Dec 4 2011, 07:06 AM)
probably at 7-8k. torco has low tbn number so the oil gets acidic quicker as compared to amsoil and redline, and it doesn have much detergent packed in so i guess thats why its popular in racing use but not for longer term purposes, same goes for redline but it lasts longer than torco for sure
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Through the years of using engine oil, I now prefer to use cheaper oil and change more often because you will take away all the dirt, soot etc., and the engine gets new oil....... nod.gif
Oh! that is for my turbo that is. Runs very hot. I use to do 10k km or 6 months on FS, but not shorten to 3 months only.


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post Dec 4 2011, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(upontheriversky @ Dec 4 2011, 03:48 PM)
yes i think that would be more practical, use cheaper oil and change it more often before it starts to oxidize and get acidic, leaving residues and sludge

also i think it wont be much good if using good oil that sustains longer but the normal filter still built to last way shorter

what i do is i just put a mindset and get used to "rm40 per liter oil is standard", at least for now haha biggrin.gif
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Yup, exactly. I want to remove the dirt if not sludge since still early. If kept longer may just turn to sludge....
I am using even cheaper then that at RM22 per L. Just got some at warehouse sales at RM70 per 4L.... biggrin.gif


Added on December 4, 2011, 8:51 pm
QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 4 2011, 05:05 PM)
may i know what is the difference between 5w20 and 0w20?

possible to use any of these (fully synthetic) on perodua viva 1.0?
daily driven, spirited drive once in a while..
easily traveled 100+km perday

considering between redline 5w20 / torco 0w20 or 5w20
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the w denotes winter, therefore 0w is even lighter then 5w, but both are not use in Malaysia weather as we never have winter here, therefore even if you have 10w-20, not much difference.... tongue.gif

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post Dec 5 2011, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(noblesse @ Dec 4 2011, 10:39 PM)
thanks for the clarification bro. how bout the viscosity? suitable to use 20 for daily drive?
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Firstly, what is the recommended viscosity written in your car manual. Should follow that.
Other that that, basically if you want to follow the chart by oil manufacturer, they recommend by ambient temperature and from what I see they will recommend at least 30 weight oil for our weather.
But oil technology have come a long way and I do see a few distributor bring in 20 weight oil nowadays, therefore I am not too sure who to follow. Therefore, I still stick to my car manufacturer recommendation.
My take, is 30 weight for smaller engines and 40 weight for larger capacity, 50 weight for hot running and/or worn engines. I had a friend on a kenari and he mixed 5w-20 with 5w-30........maybe he dare not use 20 so get 25..... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 6 2011, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(cfc-free @ Dec 6 2011, 04:45 PM)
i would gladly try 0w-20 on both my kelisa and swift if someone is willing to sponsor tongue.gif
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Fuyoh! Torco is not cheap woh........ tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:35 PM

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20 ans 30 weight difference is only the viscosity thickness, cost of making don't know...
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post Dec 15 2011, 08:22 AM

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Could the 0w-20 be meant for colder Japan Climate?
I tried using 5w-30 for my turbo, but once heated up, the engine became very noisy, so had to switch back to usual 5w-40.... blush.gif
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post Dec 15 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 15 2011, 08:38 AM)
Did your 30 oil vaporize fast too in your turbo?
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I took it out after a week. Cannot stand the noise. Even for 5w-40 some amount will vaporize, so 30 will be worst....but I do take it up to high revs.

My friend who tried 5w-20 of course in newer NA car, did have some oil consumed if he takes it up to high revs. If drive normal it is okay, but I think he change back to 30 already.....
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post Dec 15 2011, 09:57 AM

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LMST is recommended to use 10w-40 if not mistaken.....
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post Dec 15 2011, 08:48 PM

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10w-30 for LMST is okay, but if go to track better use at least SS 10w-40.....
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post Dec 16 2011, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 15 2011, 09:58 PM)
thanks for d info... huhu

wats if not mineral oil? evaporate more?

d standard saga lmst is 10w40 smile.gif
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To me oil don't evaporate. Oil consumption is due more to the car and driving style.
Lighter viscosity is said to slip through worn pistons and rings and get burnt off.
I do drive fast and using lighter viscosity oil in my worn engine, I have to add more in, between my OCI.....

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