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post Oct 28 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 28 2011, 05:28 PM)
i used toyota oil filter last time..no problem, oil filter is kinda generic
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o'really?...never knew that
i thought specific car have different oil filter(different engine)
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post Oct 28 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Oct 28 2011, 05:50 PM)
guys i want to ask ah, i was at the tinting shop, i saw this honda city's windscreen being tinted from outside so 2day i went to the shop to get my windvisor black strip thingy and i asked the worker normally windscreen tinting is stick on where and he said inside, so, what is thing then...
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or he cakap 1 buat 1..haha
i saw a few also install from outside...dn't know what they're thinking
stupid maybe
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post Oct 28 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Oct 28 2011, 06:01 PM)
so u mean, the right way is to stick inside?
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it is supposed to be installed inside..it's NEVER supposed to be installed outside
u install outside...got rain, got wind...easily spoil
no right way...theres only 1 way
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post Oct 29 2011, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(jflcorp @ Oct 29 2011, 01:27 AM)
CVT now proven so many problems.....

better dun touch, unless you got a deep deep pocket.
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why do u need deep pockets?
everything is under warranty...
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post Oct 29 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(jflcorp @ Oct 29 2011, 09:17 AM)
I talk rubbish?! Whatever! Now Proton already delay Cvt delivery for 1 month due to recall of the Cvt cooling system....

many reported jerking and stalling of cvt gb.....

Go ahead and bluff yourself. I don't give a rat's arse.....
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recall cuz of cooling..that doesn't seem to be a problem...haha
and those jerking....those might be the characteristics of CVT...who know...we never drive car with CVT be4


Added on October 29, 2011, 3:44 pm
QUOTE(sg999 @ Oct 29 2011, 12:24 PM)
did any one using IT20 spark plug?
any significant differences compare with stock spark plug?
i asked the price is rm148/set whereas for stock is rm38/set
huge difference
but for stock, 20k need to change already
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no difference in performance
but for me ..it kinda almost solve the crank 3 times problem
and the obvious difference between this and stock is..u dn't have to care abt it already...it can last a lifetime in your car
saves u alot of labour fee


Added on October 29, 2011, 3:49 pm
QUOTE(koh_424 @ Oct 29 2011, 02:38 PM)
K&N drop-in @ speedworksonline, RM280.
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search around automotive garage...alot of seller here
i bought from zendengoh..230

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post Oct 29 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Oct 29 2011, 05:58 PM)
last time i bought 4 pieces for RM160. now i think rm148 can get already.
change air-filter la. it does help a lot. 1st our stock filter is made from paper. then the air flow some how will not so good and stuck a bit. the more dirty your stock air filter the worst air-intake it will become.

by having k&n or other performance filter (works, simonta etc), will make your car breath better. better air-intake=save fuel.

there are 3 famous air filter that famous among lyn forum.

1.K&N air filter a bit exp (around 280-300) and you need to use their oil cleaning kit or the air filter will void warranty. DON EVER USE TAP WATER TO WASH K&N AIR FILTER!!! THE AIR FILTER MESH WILL TORN OFF.

2. Project S Stainless Steel air filter. (around 105-120) depend on car model. this air filter mesh (the middle one) is made from stainless steel which form a net. Very good air flow and engine can breath nicely assume there were no filter install in your car. Very responsive and you can even use soap water or just water to wash your air-filter. And it will last forever until you sell your car off.
But there is no good behind it. since it does not have mesh or paper in between the filter it cant stop the tiny dust and water drop from going into our throttle body. long term it might give problem to our car throttle body.

3. Works Engineering air filter (RM120-160) depend on car model. this the most recommend air-filter among persona club member in lyn. This air filter design is same wit k&n air filter. But it just no need special cleaning kit to wash it and can be wash by tap water (NOT SOAP WATER). This air-filter also will last forever.

so my recommend is use works engineering air-filter. if you want to race with ppl temporary change to Stainless steel air filter lo.  whistling.gif  After race change back. LOL

After changing air filter, straight away you can feel your car got pickup and save fuel.
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since you're here...want to ask how to wash the KnN air filter properly without damaging it
and those add-ons are reoil kit not cleaning kit if am not wrong
even works engineering has their own reoil kit
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Oct 30 2011, 12:41 PM)
it is advice to change oil every 5K cos the lub inside your car are full of contaminated, metal waste. so if you drag your service for 10k then you are burden your engine.

the sale man told you that the lub can last long cos they wan to convince you to buy their product. At the end you are the one who suffer. max lub can last is 7k.

if you are a sensitive driver. you can feel your car engine start to have vibration and a bit sluggish after 7k.
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if want fully syn or 10k service once
just use better oil like liqui moly
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post Oct 30 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 30 2011, 01:10 PM)
full syn although technically could last 10k km, but the oil filter doesn't.

In the end, it will still be damaging towards the engine. Even if using full syn, recommended is to change every 7k/8k. No matter how good is the engine oil, it will still deteriorate when accumulate mileage.
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just change the filter every 5k...no problem
those good oil usually sold in 5L bottle....use 4L...change filter...add on
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post Oct 30 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 30 2011, 04:16 PM)
any1 here switched from ron97 to 95 b4? wats ur experience after tat? expected one is engine a bit rough...what else? smile.gif

my flx 1st pump ron95 by salesman then from 2nd to 4th pump is ron97 liao, but thinking of switching back to 95 lor coz cannot tahan using mahal sweat.gif

yeah i knw kinda crazy for me to pump 97 at first without considering long term sad.gif
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for me....cuz when i bought BLM still use RON97
for me...tapping sound very obvious....engine noise very loud
seem to be like the engine really unhappy abt the oil...very angry
thn got 1 time i really go try pump 97 just to see its the oil or not
once i pump 97 and start engine...noise everything is gone...smooth like no business
but now not worthed already..RM1 difference
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post Oct 30 2011, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Oct 30 2011, 06:07 PM)
Even my Cayman can run on Ron 95. shakehead.gif

I believe Ron 97/95 is up to users' preference. If u wanna be economical, u'll definitely have to go Ron 95. Not much could be said about difference in engine performance; I won't believe it unless it is dyno proven that Ron 97 makes more power than 95.

P.s: talking about campro engines here and the application/difference between 95/97 on performance.
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i didn't say it doesn't run....it runs but pretty bad
two causes of this...1 is RON95 itself...2 is the petrol station
RON95 surely make it not that good for our car already...
the 2nd one is the petrol station....they usually will mix things into their petrol to make it look like more thus make more profit
and at the same time...the performance goes down becuz they added something else
dn't need dyno....just pump the petrol and drive with the same car with the same route...you'll notice it the difference
the noise...once pump and start the engine...step outside and u can hear already....the engine seem to be angry of the new oil...the engine very noisy and many tapping sound

ps: if nt wrong....it applies to lower CC car...higher CC car no problem one

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post Oct 30 2011, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Oct 30 2011, 06:39 PM)
Have u tried different brands of petrol, then? Go pump Shell 97, then pump Caltex 97. U will definitely see the difference there. The problem is not with the Ron of the petrol itself, but rather the additives that they use in different petrol brands. It is recommended that CamPro engine uses Ron 97, but at the same time it is tuned to run with 95.

We members at PPLYN didnt waste our time & money trying different brands & Ron of petrol for no reason. AFAIK, campro engines run perfectly well on Caltex Ron 97. Arguably the best petrol u can use for ur CamPro. Very smooth, too.

If u think that higher CC cars won't feel the difference, then u're wrong. Cars with higher displacement are affected even more, and the difference is much more significant where knockings & power loss is greater felt. As I said, dyno proving is the only way to make me believe that Ron 97 is better than 95.

I'm not denying that Ron 97 gives smoother & better power delivery than 95, I'm just saying that if there is a performance difference felt in our CamPro engine, then it must be placebo effect. If u feel ur engine is smoother & less noisy while idling & accelerating, then yes, it is because of the additives in the higher priced Ron 97.

I can go further into how compression ratios and such affect the output of an engine using petrol of different octane ratings, but I think it should suffice that I stop here.
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i tried every brand of RON95 available in sabah here
esso, petronas and shell
when i start change to RON95...i start by shell cuz u know their 97 is quiet good
but their 95 sarks like no business...the symptoms are as i mention above
thn i tried petronas...better but FC is very bad
thn i test esso...the best of all...power and FC but still cannot eliminate the engine noise entirely like any RON97
cuz i purposely go pump 97 be4 in the middle...the noise and tapping totally go away
when petronas release their 95 extra....i go pump...good..improved...on par with esso but i still like esso for their power
so 1st = esso > shell > petronas
thn it became esso > petronas > shell....i notice alot here gave up shell already cuz they feel it as well..it's very obvious

and i know the higher CC got won't feel any difference cuz previously i'm driving my dad's 2L car
last time also pump 97 like everyone do...thn petrol price increase...forced to pump 95
but when i sit in the car....between 97 and 95...didn't feel any difference in power and FC...maybe it was just my dad's car maybe...different car with different engine gives different effect
my dad's one is mitsu engine BTW
but 200k+ KM already...maybe thats why...haha

maybe your opinion more pro/true..but my opinion is based on my experience and backed up by members here in FnF
95 really sarks....or most probably malaysia's 95 sarks only...haha

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post Oct 31 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Oct 31 2011, 02:28 PM)
Different car owners feel differently. Cos different people drive differently & experience different driving conditions everyday. I personally feel that Caltex is the best for power & highway cruising, but esso mobil offers better FC while driving in traffic/city speeds.

And as for mixing stuffs into the petrol reservoir, I cant agree more. I've personally seen a few petrol station workers mixing what appears to be translucent liquid (water? Kerosene?) into the reservoir. I've avoided these stations ever since.
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yes...i've seen it too..it's definitely water
cuz they refill it 2 times from the tap
lucky i didn't pump from that station
usually noticeable cuz the FC will be affected...cuz i notice a few station i pump for the 1st time....the fuel seem to be running out very fast
and i never go back there again


Added on October 31, 2011, 3:02 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Oct 31 2011, 02:38 PM)
hmm.gif if I'm not mistaken, Saga 1.3 is using 16 bit Siemens ECU. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Continental ECU is offered only starting from Persona Elegance and Exora. Maybe I was wrong, maybe Saga 1.3 indeed is using Continental ECU..
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dn't know FLX
but BLM till FL all use siemens
persona using the 32 bit

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post Nov 1 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 1 2011, 05:17 PM)
oh..
so dvvt is for fuel saving issit?
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1 is dvvt(engine) another is CVT(GB)
u choose
but the 1.3FLX is competing against the 1.3LB....result almost the same but myvi still win
if 1.5L myvi thn dn't know


Added on November 1, 2011, 6:09 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 1 2011, 05:47 PM)
Saw a flx with all its logo cover. Bodykit also covered. Bloody fast at sunway. Red colour
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thn that must be the 1.6L FLX
cuz it comes with bodykit

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post Nov 1 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 1 2011, 08:55 PM)
now proton in dilemma  rclxub.gif. wheater to launch EV first or turbo, cause govt. giving insentive for EV cars.....  doh.gif
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EV isn't anywhere ready
and batteries are crap
now is the time of hybrid..electric long way to go
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Nov 1 2011, 09:22 PM)
bro, abt the works drop-in air filter, is it DIY'able? Im not too good in automotive n dun wish to ruin my car if things go wrong... smile.gif
i knw one guy frm pplyn tered sells that (or automotive garage), but im in pg n he is in kl, how do i fix it then... lol....

also, this filter is water washable? or need to use that special liquid@oil?
any one knows any mechanic in penang/mainland area familiar with these filter stuff so i can keep to him?

also, last ques  icon_idea.gif  does it void warranty for engine if change filter n spark plugs? my car is barely 6 months old thumbup.gif
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its easily DIYable...there a box there near the engine...open the box...the filter is inside
just exchange it only
if you're scare warranty void...keep the ori filter ...switch it for 1 day when u go SC service
when reach home..change it back
its washable...only need to reoil it after u wash it....if not wrong only wash it once every 40-50k KM

spark plug depends on u...it will void the warranty of the engine and u can't exchange it every time u go SC

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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Nov 1 2011, 09:53 PM)
wow..thanks alot bro... hmm since spark plug voids warranty, shud i wait for 3 yrs then oni consider this 2? hehe

btw thanks for the explanation... will try try myself if cant then see during next service la... smile.gif interesting!
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it's worth doing it after 3 years
cuz now when service in SC..every 10k they will change for u
depends on how long u driver...3 years estimated 60k KM already...1 year is around 20k KM
by that time...u change to iridium...it should last a lifetime in your car...won't even need to care abt it already unless hard to crank
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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Nov 1 2011, 10:00 PM)
but whats the point if voids warranty?? just for spark plugs i ruin my engine warrantly right?  yawn.gif
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anything u change attached to the engine...will void that part's warranty
so better wait till end of warranty
in a way..it's also a way to ensure the engine no prob
cuz if u change now and things happen..can't claim thn have to fork out alot of money


Added on November 1, 2011, 10:12 pm
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Nov 1 2011, 10:00 PM)
laugh.gif  but yet they never mass production though, now EV only for govt. dpt. at putrajaya test use only.
EV is anywhere aldy, but did you see any from proton  rclxub.gif
and Proton gonna build the EV charge station also ...... doh.gif
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EV is everywhere?
are u sure??...did u even see 1 on the road?
i haven't seen 1 in malaysian road

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 1 2011, 10:11 PM)
Frankly & IMHO, if one only hv fears over warranty claims T&C, then one shld NOT touch/change anything of stock car from Day 1 till 3 years later!!

As posted b4, my neighbour cld NOT even claim to replace the gear lever spring of his 100% stock BLM which is STILL under warranty!!

So... ?

As alwaz...decision is YOURS... tongue.gif
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if fully stock thn why can't claim?
should try other SC
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Nov 1 2011, 10:30 PM)
Mr alien said if your scared void warranty ma.

bro you don understand la. did you know what is wear and tear items? mean pakai, rosak and buang. the parts that cant last forever inside your engine are WEAR AND TEAR ITEM.

item that are NOT wear and tear eg. your IAFM module it will be there wit you engine forever. you cant change it. (except you wan to mod to CPS)

the SC just scare you all ppl that once you change your car item then all void warranty. Ask you better to use ori parts from proton. Like this they can chop you ma.

if you dare, ask them to list out what item are cover under engine and gear box warranty.

up to you bro. if you are so scare then use back ori item.  smile.gif
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it's better to be untouched
what u say is reasonable but car manufacturer give u that warranty and they can easily take it back if they found something is wrong
so it's better not use aftermarket stuff unless confirm all ok

added:if really want to use aftermarket stuff or want cheaper service
at least wait until 1 year/20k service(1st major service)..for a few reason
1. to ensure nothing wrong with engine and GB
2. to ensure other part no problem as well...those that will cost alot of money to replace
3. for those who didn't read manual, u'll have the receipt from 1st service till 20k service...can use as guidelines when u service outside....it's better to follow else problems will come to u

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 1 2011, 11:36 PM)
what dvvt does? someone told me engine...
i noob ma
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just google it...we are not car expert as well
just know its engine tech
why wanna know so in depth to buy a car?

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