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Video/Audio Cover Song Collaboration, Polling for new cover

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little ice
post Dec 12 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(CDGmaboroshi @ Dec 12 2011, 01:37 AM)
At least try to make it worth while?
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yeah. that's why we're practicing. and this one republic song is our first one. tongue.gif

violin track coming up tomorrow. still busy in the past few days and also today...promise tomorrow. sweat.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:31 PM

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ima uploading the violin track, 24bit/44.1khz. will PM killer directly for the link, not going to make the violin track available to public. biggrin.gif


Added on December 14, 2011, 12:57 amPM sent to killer. please shift everything to the right for 1 bar, my violin track starts 1 bar late, need to have a clean start at the beginning of the first violin note to need to allow some space (i leave just 1 bar).

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post Dec 14 2011, 01:44 PM

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shucks, got a pop/click in my violin track due to unknown stupid automated crossfade chunk...upload the fixed version now and will PM killer once done. doh.gif
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post Dec 15 2011, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 14 2011, 11:09 PM)
Little Ice/Rarap, very solid playing  thumbup.gif
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lol i did shit loads of takes for that track... tongue.gif


QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 14 2011, 11:09 PM)
Reminders: I need your videos too. So far I already have Deadfrog and Rarap videos.
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took using my phone, looks ok but blurry, maybe will look OK if down size in the final video. starting to learn how to use iMovie lol, will submit it tomorrow.
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post Dec 15 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 14 2011, 11:09 PM)
actually, there's some weird sync going on, it sounds like my violin track is a little early. for my track, it's synced precisely to 148bpm, begin at bar 2, just put the audio track right at the beginning, and make sure you don't warp or cut anything, if any out of sync places are just my playing a bit off. laugh.gif

going to upload the video to you. it's going to be cropped, since i'm playing violin so very difficult for me to take a video without my face...you know how to put a mask on my face? i can upload the original video to you if you can do it. sweat.gif

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post Dec 15 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 15 2011, 01:17 PM)
Just send me the original video, if you don't want to show your face its OK, I can crop something or put some blur effect LOL. Why would you wanna hide it anyway?  hmm.gif
You should have put on a cap or something (like towel -- in case of CDG maboroshi haha).
Well, IMO you should be proud of yourself lah thumbup.gif
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i sent you a version, you can hear the metronome picking up for 3 bars, so you can sync it. biggrin.gif

if you think it's too cropped, i'll upload the original version, but you need to trim the beginning and end. yeah, put something on my face lol! i don't want to reveal who i am here, hence i'm not going to show my face. sweat.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 15 2011, 01:36 PM)
Sked /k/ people will hunt you down? haha.
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no me no lurkz in /k/ but you know, i don't like the idea of revealing who am i in public forum where trolls and crazy peoples are everywhere... laugh.gif

if i want to reveal who i am i would have do it right from the start, and speak to the public as who i am in real life. smile.gif


QUOTE(rarap @ Dec 15 2011, 01:58 PM)
can ask gdmaboroshi how to put cartoon on face tongue.gif

yup it sound a bit out of sync if played with the background midi.but it sync perfectly when the background midi is removed.u can try hear it on earphone,left side only.its quite nice.i think that the guitar volume need to be increase a bit and slow a bit the violin volume.just let killer handle it smile.gif
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i asked killer to simply blur the face can liao lol

if the background midi track out or sync, that's strange cause i use the bounced midi track and record with it, the bounced track sync correctly to metronome/grid.

killer, if you want to sync tracks, always refer to metronome or check with the grid lines visually. from what i saw the screenshot of the tracks, my violin seems to start earlier than the grid line, so is the bass track.

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post Dec 24 2011, 09:35 PM

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i know this is stupid but...

"want four egg(s)"

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post Dec 27 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 27 2011, 11:01 AM)
How weird? Is it a bad or a good thing? After all, this is a cover, we're not supposed to follow  exactly like the original haha
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download reaper from http://www.reaper.fm , then try to import all the audio files to check if they're in sync.

it's simply too weird to be off sync if you simply import the audio files and do nothing.

also, remember to set the tempo first before you import anything, you may not realize some DAW will stretch or shrink the audio file when you adjust the tempo. great feature for "beat making" geared DAW like Ableton but a disaster for mixing.

by the way, i can probably record my violin for some bass notes by pitch shifting them down so the intro won't sound so "floating" due to lack of bass notes. or you can do something with the guitar? laugh.gif


Added on December 27, 2011, 1:52 pmok, i try to download individual tracks available current to see what's happening between the tracks... hmm.gif

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post Dec 27 2011, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:52 PM)
Actually here's what I did. I make sure when I select the audio track, the 'warp' function is always turned off. In Ableton, if you turn off this feature, it will always follow the general tempo that you keyed-in at upper right corner near the menu. After I've done that, I mark where the first beat should be and i zo0m to that area and drag the entire audio track to where it should be. For example, the violin track and bass track I know exactly where the first bass note should hit, so I drag the bass track to coincide or synch with the violin track.

If there were out of synch portions later in the track do you think it's probably because of human error during playing/recording? If so, then I may need to cut portions of the track to compensate on the general tempo.

No need to re-record the violin track. It's supposed to sound like that anyway, unless you have a cello to record with.
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there seems to be no problem with what you did. i believe you're well aware of the warp setting or beat detecting or something like that and keep it off so i try to look into the problems on other area. like you said, it could be human playing error. i'm trying to download the tracks just to double confirm though it'll take a while since those are big files.

by the way, another common practice is to align the beginning of the audio track so that it starts precisely from zero. in other words, when bouncing the track, leave exactly one bar at the beginning so no need to drag the audio track and re-sync by aligning to the graph/grid, much like what you did with the midi mockup track - i just import it, set grid "snap" on, and snap it right on the 2nd bar, then i start record. the midi mockup followed tightly with the metronome.
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(killerkamote7 @ Dec 27 2011, 02:29 PM)
You can see the native tempo right below the Warp button were different for all tracks. I'm not sure why, but probably its a wild guess from Ableton. Read something about Reaper that you can put beat markers and convert it to tempo markers hmm.gif
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actually you don't need to stick with reaper but it's the easiest way to grab a DAW and install for a quick trial. there isn't any of the warping thing by default, which is what i used to record the violin track for this project. audio imported just fine and sticked to the tempo. i just tried opening the reaper project again and adjusted the tempo to 149 and the audio track left untouched and obviously the metronome is now off sync.

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post Jan 4 2012, 01:11 PM

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sure will involve in the next one if i can help a little! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 3 2012, 04:26 PM

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killer, i guess i can't commit for this project, have been busy lately and will remain busy for weeks to come...

all the best to the next project!

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