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PrincZe
post Mar 29 2014, 08:54 PM

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guys, question please.

is it like , i take this scheme.

every month i invest rm100 or rm1k per year, i get rm500 into my account?

after 1 year, i can close the account?
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post Mar 29 2014, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Mar 29 2014, 10:58 PM)
No. Prs is aimed to keep until you retired. Unless you don't mind being penalised.
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so when does my rm500 comes in?

was thinking too good to be true. thought of asking further info on this.

because i thought it's benefit ma. every year as long got save 1k, give u rm500. lol drool.gif

silly me doh.gif
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post Mar 30 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Mar 29 2014, 11:42 PM)
RM500 is given once for lifetime, so it is not something too good to be true
i believe just a strategy to build the awareness of PRS and attract ppl to buy......

Personally, i would say PRS just something like EPF in voluntary basis and giving you additional tax deduction
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then, when will they give ? 1st year? i think there's penalty too if give u rm500 then i cancel lol
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post Dec 5 2018, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 5 2018, 02:42 AM)
hmm.gif mind sharing where did you get this info that "most" pick CIMB and not Affin hwang?
this is PRS thread...so I assume you are referring to PRS funds....

cannot sleep thus I compiled the data that I got...it shows Affin beats Cimb by a large margin....
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so can i say affin has more funds , thus makes a better PRS fund?
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post Dec 16 2018, 05:35 PM

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Guys got a question. What's the threshold for prs to be recommended?

Example if I started working in Oct this year and tax maybe not alot.so if I buy 3k prs, I probably won't utilize it fully?

If u get what i mean.

I guess if I have big bonus this year, it's good to max the prs relif. Else if not, then not worth?
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post Dec 16 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 16 2018, 10:00 PM)
For me is very easy. 
Income tax money is not yours at the end of the day.
PRS money is yours at the end of the day.

Just hentam max RM3k/year inside. Don't hentam more. No point hentam more when tax relief max only Rm3k. Also who cares cannot utilise fully. See the above. You rather pay tax or pay yourself? I know what I will choose. That's why my RM3k is always ready for PRS.

Tax relief until 2021. If don't extend, don't put in anymore lo. Simple. If extend,  just continue to put in.
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Yes, max 3k per year to get relif. But those maybe pay rm50 per month of tax to income tax, one year maybe rm600 give to tax (assume no bonus)

So now I need find method to get back rm600 which is by tax relif right?

So if I put in 3k to get back rm600 doesn't seem make sense?

And yes, 3k is yours in the end. But maybe fund perform badly, might lose money and only wait 55 years old only can withdraw.

Sorry newbie here

This post has been edited by PrincZe: Dec 16 2018, 11:31 PM
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post Dec 17 2018, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Gabriel03 @ Dec 16 2018, 11:50 PM)
I think that you're confused between tax relief and tax rebate.

Let's just use your example of paying RM 600 of tax in a year.

Tax rebate
- very few possibilities. Most famous one is zakat. If u pay RM 300 in, then you need to pay only RM 300 in tax. In short, tax rebate subtracts from the total tax that you need to pay.

Tax relief reduces your taxable income. The taxable income is calculated by subtracting the tax relief from your total annual income. For example, if you earn RM 48k in gross annual income and you get RM 3k for PRS, your taxable income decreases to RM 45k. There are other tax reliefs to be added like EPF, SOCSO, etc.

Fyi, the taxable income is taxed from 0% to 28%. So, if you earn 1 million a year, your highest tax range is 28%. For 3k in PRS, you save RM 840.

If you earn 48k a year, 3k in PRS represent less than RM 300 of tax refund - I didn't do the exact calculations.
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Oh yes, reduce my taxable income. But each month my pcb only rm50 per month. So in a year my pcb is rm600.

So if I earn 48k per annum, thats like 4k per month, I invest rm3k and get rm90 out of rm600.

In order to get rm90 back from rm600, I have to invest 3k. 🤔🤔

Although 3k belongs to yours in the end.

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post Dec 17 2018, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Gabriel03 @ Dec 17 2018, 12:07 AM)
That's why there is pros and cons depending on your salary. Bear in mind that the money is yours but it's locked until retirement. You can partially withdraw but you will get tax penalty.

It depends on your confort zone as you might need that 3k in a few years to come??? Idk... You have to determine it yourself.
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Yes I agree. So it's not entirely should put in full. Maybe 1k depending on salary.

If earn high salary and each month pay high pcb good tax relif.

Thanks alot Gab!

 

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