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m_m1
post Apr 7 2025, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 6 2025, 08:36 PM)
Actually depends on what you want actually. What works for you can't work for me and vice versa.

I go for the best growth over time and I prefer foreign holdings Vs Malaysian.

You can consider this 2 if you want the best best growth.
1. Principal retireeasy 2050
2. Rhb Retirement islamic balance

Keep in mind it may swing a lot as I am an aggressive investor.

You can choose and compare your PRS here.
https://www.fsmone.com.my/tools/fund-selector
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/chart-centre

Majority of PRS in Malaysia are hopeless and tak boleh pakai. Giving less than EPF return.
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Apr 6 2025, 09:12 PM)
I looked up this principal islamic fund, its quite a new fund. Established in Sept 22. How long have you invested in this fund? Are u expecting positive returns every year? Funds sometimes have bad year or two.

But cons of this fund:
1. Still very new with short track.record
2. Small size, no scale. So fixed expenses will eat up a lot of the returns.

And sorry, I dont have a view of any of the other 3 funds you mentioned. Most PRS have been sub par because of high exposure to Malaysian equities and also bonds.
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Thanks for the information @Ramjade @Cubalagi.

I initially invested in the fund around 2022. I'm now looking into PRS options with broader global exposure, hoping to achieve better long-term returns than EPF.

I'll definitely look into the points you all shared in more detail. Appreciate the insights!

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post Apr 8 2025, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(m_m1 @ Apr 7 2025, 03:15 PM)
Thanks for the information @Ramjade @Cubalagi.

I initially invested in the fund around 2022. I'm now looking into PRS options with broader global exposure, hoping to achieve better long-term returns than EPF.

I'll definitely look into the points you all shared in more detail. Appreciate the insights!

Cheers, smile.gif
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Keep in mind whatever prs you buy likely you will be down this month thanks to Trump.
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post Apr 26 2025, 01:12 PM

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Hi, this is a screenshot from the AHAM Moderate PRS fund. Does it mean the total fee we have to pay each year is 1.5% + 0.04% + 1.6%, adding up to 3.14% per year?
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post Apr 26 2025, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Apr 26 2025, 01:12 PM)
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Hi, this is a screenshot from the AHAM Moderate PRS fund. Does it mean the total fee we have to pay each year is 1.5% + 0.04% + 1.6%, adding up to 3.14% per year?
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The 1.6 is ratio.
The fund pays, ...annual mgmt fees and trustee fees.

You don't pay anything more.
You don't feels it.
It is your money that are in the fund that pays it.
It is paid daily through the daily computed NAV.
watermineral
post Apr 26 2025, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 26 2025, 01:39 PM)
The 1.6 is ratio.
The fund pays, ...annual mgmt fees and trustee fees.

You don't pay anything more.
You don't feels it.
It is your money that are in the fund that pays it.
It is paid daily through the daily computed NAV.
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yea.. 1.6 is including management and trustee fee already right?
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post Apr 26 2025, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Apr 26 2025, 03:28 PM)
yea.. 1.6 is including management and trustee fee already right?
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Read the prospectus of that PRS fund or any AHAM unit trust fund.
Read under FEES AND EXPENSES and especially under PRICING.
should hv some clarification and examples of that.

This post has been edited by MUM: Apr 26 2025, 04:09 PM
watermineral
post Apr 26 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 26 2025, 04:08 PM)
Read the prospectus of that PRS fund or any AHAM unit trust fund.
Read under FEES AND EXPENSES and especially under PRICING.
should hv some clarification and examples of that.
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cant find any explanation
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post Apr 26 2025, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Apr 26 2025, 05:32 PM)
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cant find any explanation
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Sent me the link?

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post Apr 26 2025, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 26 2025, 05:34 PM)
Sent me the link?
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https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...d?fund=MYHPRSMF
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post Apr 26 2025, 05:41 PM

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not mention the Expense Ratio here in the product highlight sheet
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post Apr 26 2025, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Apr 26 2025, 05:39 PM)
Is that fundfact sheet?
Check the prospectus?
OR check the prospectus of example this fund?
https://www.fsmone.com.my/admin/buy/prospec...ctusMYAFEQF.pdf

This post has been edited by MUM: Apr 26 2025, 05:48 PM
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post Apr 27 2025, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Apr 26 2025, 03:28 PM)
yea.. 1.6 is including management and trustee fee already right?
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Expense ratio means the total operating cost of the fund over the total.value of the fund.

You use expense ratio to compare between funds. A lower expense ratio means a more effecient fund. All other things being equal, lower expense ratio is better.

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post Jul 23 2025, 09:18 AM

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The frustration of seeing your gains play YoYo up and down
from a peak gain RM14.8k in July 2024 down to RM7465 Apr 2025
might as well sell it off when it reach peak again....


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post Jul 23 2025, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 23 2025, 09:18 AM)
The frustration of seeing your gains play  YoYo up and down
from  a peak gain RM14.8k in July 2024 down to RM7465 Apr 2025
might as well sell it off when it reach peak again....
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My retireeasy 2050 finally see green after a long time
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post Jul 23 2025, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 23 2025, 09:18 AM)
The frustration of seeing your gains play  YoYo up and down
from  a peak gain RM14.8k in July 2024 down to RM7465 Apr 2025
might as well sell it off when it reach peak again....
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i bought principal ex-japan for tax relief......this year havent bought yet...the price keep going up lol...

That day dropped to RM1.04 didnt managed to get it
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post Jul 23 2025, 10:51 AM

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bought the public mutual prs fund for tax relief, but end up got a good return compared to other local fund
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post Jul 23 2025, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 23 2025, 09:18 AM)
The frustration of seeing your gains play  YoYo up and down
from  a peak gain RM14.8k in July 2024 down to RM7465 Apr 2025
might as well sell it off when it reach peak again....
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The is no such thing might as well. During July 24, you didn't sell because thinking it can hit RM29.6k in times to come.
I had the same thing from Jul 24 till now in my UT via KWSP. In Jul, it was 22% profit and now is -1.75% (vs. initial investment, a switch of fund in Sept 23).

This is investment, its a long term or you realized if you objective is met. no regrets after that
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post Jul 23 2025, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 23 2025, 09:18 AM)
The frustration of seeing your gains play  YoYo up and down
from  a peak gain RM14.8k in July 2024 down to RM7465 Apr 2025
might as well sell it off when it reach peak again....
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jul 23 2025, 09:38 AM)
My retireeasy 2050 finally see green after a long time
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Govt should just give us access to US market but I know why they don't want to. Cause that way no one support local KLSE.
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QUOTE(leanman @ Jul 23 2025, 11:01 AM)
The is no such thing might as well. During July 24, you didn't sell because thinking it can hit RM29.6k in times to come.
I had the same thing from Jul 24 till now in my UT via KWSP. In Jul, it was 22% profit and now is -1.75% (vs. initial investment, a switch of fund in Sept 23).

This is investment, its a long term or you realized if you objective is met. no regrets after that
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Yeah sure ... nobody knows where is the peak point to sell

Ada good profit hand itchy liao
Want to think objective achieved already..

take profit wait for 47 to create havoc
can buy again...

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post Jul 23 2025, 09:57 PM

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Just wondering if anyone here is buying RM3,000 PRS yearly via FSM for tax relief purpose ?

In this scenario I plan buy using DCA method , 1k August, 1k September, 1k October, all is for the same fund > Principal RetireEasy 2050

As I read from the thread , FSM receipt is not acceptable for tax relief, if that the scenario where can I get all the 3 receipt ?

Do I contact Principal Asset Management Berhad
Customer Care Centre ask them issue me these receipt ?

Thank you !


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