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post Dec 11 2016, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(lengzhai @ Dec 11 2016, 12:26 AM)
It's quite complicated and long winded. This is awaiting reply/consideration from my adviser/or and the manager before I proceed further.

Long story short, the adviser should get my acknowledgement to top-up on top of my first contribution to make up the minimum requirement for opening OnePRS account.

I have some top-up via KIB bank account but somehow my adviser reluctant to top-up on my PRS, and asked me to open another account, which is Kenanga Growth Fund.
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then I guess, it is not the person who managed the fund.....for usually, layman like me have not direct contact with the fund manager (person who managed the fund)

then I guess again, because your "adviser" would have a bigger commission (5.5%) from your purchase of Kenanga Growth fund.....if you buy that instead of 0% commission if you buy One PRS funds.

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post Dec 11 2016, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(lengzhai @ Dec 11 2016, 12:46 AM)
...........The reason I was being told was "This is to meet my eligibility of getting the so-called money from government before 2017".

If the requirement is RM1,000, just mentioned it right away. Else, it is not correct and lack of integrity.

Kenanga Growth Fund is the fund that I can trade, buy, sell, withdraw without time limit right? Please correct me thanks. I am not a good person into this investment and finance.

I am signing up this OnePRS is also because the adviser - I consider her as my elderly with respect.
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hmm.gif I guess it is "also" a good thing for this...where you cannot buy into One PRS....for if you mean the "Youth incentives thing" (money from govt)....
if you bought RM 1000 this year,...you will get only RM 500, else if you buy RM1000 in 2017, you will get RM 1000

yes, Kenanga Growth got no holding period condition....except I guess, for the 1st one or 2 days after you bought it, for the holdings are just not yet reflected in your account yet.
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post Dec 20 2016, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(gst1209 @ Dec 20 2016, 06:05 PM)
guys i got a question about this PRF ?

initially i start with RM 1000 and my lastest statement show less than RM 1000.
means is losing money in PRF investment.

Should i keep putting money inside or just leave it ?

Thanks.
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Are you ok if the value shows lost of 20% or more from the invested amount?
If ok....no problem....then may i suggest you cont to top up.....
Else if not ok.....may i suggest you leave it there..don't top up.
But if you are hesistate.....some would says just do top up to average down the price cos PRS is for long term.
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post Dec 22 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(gst1209 @ Dec 22 2016, 10:51 AM)
how long do you mean ?
No sign show they could generate gain at the moment
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how long?.....till your retirement age.....
unless, you're ok to pay hefty withdrawal fees on part of the invested amount...

http://www.ppa.my/prs/about-prs/prs-scheme-features/
http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-faqs/

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post Dec 23 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(laith @ Dec 23 2016, 10:12 PM)
Any PRS fund to recommend at this time, wish to purchase before ebd of this month for tax exemption.
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unknown to what suits you.....
unable to recommends.
but if you wanted it to be based on performance....try this...
http://www.ppa.my/getting-started/funds-re...nd-performance/
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post Dec 25 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wan_109 @ Dec 25 2016, 11:36 AM)
AmPRS Dynamic Sukuk seems to provide stable return with low risk, with cumulative returns 15% since inception (25/11/2013).

What do you guys think?
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with the same FSM rating....


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post Dec 25 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(laith @ Dec 25 2016, 02:57 PM)
Diversity.
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you have Asia pac, Kgf....try Reits also using PRS...
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post Dec 25 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 25 2016, 10:31 PM)
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yes, that is true,...other than the Sales charges, there are many more charges too...most of it canNOT be felt by the investor as it had been reflected in the daily NAVs.
cannot feel it does not mean they are not there....in bad or good times,..they are there

Investment Guide: Beware Of These Investment Costs And Charges
http://litefm.com.my/Mobile/Features/Lifes...nvestment-Costs
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post Dec 25 2016, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 25 2016, 10:56 PM)
d other charges r quite reasonable n norm. for prs, b4 this already been announce there is no sales charges. but some do dat also..........
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hmm.gif the Govt got announce PRS no sales charges-meh?

this official site did not mention no sales charges....
Fees/charges
For fees and charges on switching and transfer, please refer to the Providers page of this website under Fees and Charges. Transferor Providers’ fees (which include transfer fees and redemption charge, where applicable) will need to be deducted from sub-account A of the Transferor Fund(s). For transfer from one or more funds, Transferor Providers’ transfer fees must be apportioned equally depending on the number of funds. For example, if there are transfer request from two funds, the transfer fee of RM50 is to be charged RM25 for each fund.

http://www.ppa.my/prs/about-prs/prs-scheme-features/
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post Dec 26 2016, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 25 2016, 11:59 PM)
i mean d initial feees. where 1 member says it will b charge everytime buy prs funds. d other fees r clear cut
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Fsm my offer 0% sc on prs funds purchases....it got a lists of funds there....PM prs funds is at 3%....can buy from pm

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post Dec 27 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(wan_109 @ Dec 26 2016, 08:56 PM)
Well, it seems with a higher risk, CIMB Islamic Prs Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity Class C trumps other fund, cumulative returns of 21.33% over 4 years   blink.gif

Most likely due to appreciating USD?  hmm.gif
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doh.gif there is a better horse from the same stable....which is better than your mentioned CIMB Islamic Prs Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity
est > 35% since Nov 2013 thumbup.gif

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post Dec 28 2016, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 28 2016, 09:32 PM)
What is the commission we need to pay if buy directly from ambank?
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maybe tis?
https://www.aminvest.com/OurFunds/PRSFundsP...mPRSAPREITs.pdf



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post Dec 29 2016, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 28 2016, 11:27 PM)
according to fsm, anythin b4 3pm is considered dat day transaction. but y wanna take d risk. jus do it now.

depends on ur risk profile. imho, oversea exposure prs is good so it bcome more diversified invest compare to epf
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abit correction...
Q: What is the transaction cut-off time for PRS?

A: Your orders will be processed on the same business day if all the required documents and payments are received before 3pm.
If the documents and payments are received after 3pm or on a non business day, orders will be processed on the next business day.

* Except PRS funds under the management of CIMB Principal Asset Management Berhad, AIA Pension and Asset Management Sdn. Bhd and Manulife Asset Management Service Berhad, whereby the PRS transaction cut off time is at 11am on every business day.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...me-PRS--8865#13

most probably if he were to do it on 30 Dec...he is not able to get the tax relief this year....
b'cos FSM did posted on the website that abt year end PRS cut off time and date......further more if he is new, need to get the PPA a/c too....

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post Jan 6 2017, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(zestsc1028 @ Jan 6 2017, 08:22 PM)
Just notice that the PRS website was updated.
So it is official now that the Youth Incentive has increased from RM500 to RM1000.
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rclxms.gif Thanks for the updates....
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post Jan 20 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jan 20 2017, 09:45 PM)
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This would have eaten into the value of the investment, right? So technically if the annual return is 2%, then the actual return would be lesser. Is my understanding correct? Plus, the fees and charges would be incurred, whether or not the investment is making +return.
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So technically if the annual return is 2%, then the actual return would be lesser. Is my understanding correct?
hmm.gif NO...your understanding is wrong...
if the annual return is 2%...you get 2% returns
the mgmt fees and other fees are already reflected in the NAVs....and these NAVs is where you had take to make calculation to determine the gain/loss

on this "Plus, the fees and charges would be incurred, whether or not the investment is making +return."
YES.
you need to pay for the expenses for the operation/mgmt. of your investment.



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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 22 2017, 09:38 PM)
guys im new to this...
really need some guide.
any good PRS to recommend?
What shall i look at before deciding? Thank you.
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while waiting for responses,
you may try read this and its links if you want

Selecting PRS Providers & Funds
You may choose to contribute to one or more PRS Provider. Under each PRS Provider, you can further choose to invest into one or more funds by either contributing based on the default option (age-based selection) or select a fund based on your preferred choice.
http://www.ppa.my/getting-started/investin...roviders-funds/

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post Jan 23 2017, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Jan 23 2017, 10:47 PM)
RHB
PB
CIMB

Which fund the best ?
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unknown to what is your definition of "best"
I can just direct you...
if you looking for performance.....try this?

(for all funds)
http://gllt.morningstar.com/e6qvxuu98r/fun...B&tab=ShortTerm

(for non PM funds)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...mber-2016--7772
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post Feb 6 2017, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Feb 6 2017, 05:27 PM)
I dunno whether this has been asked before, i know that we cannot withdraw but can the funds be transferred to different PRS fund ? Or do you have to stick with the fund until you retire
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read this?
http://www.ppa.my/prs/about-prs/prs-scheme-features/
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QUOTE(Eddy924 @ Feb 6 2017, 02:23 PM)
How about AIA? My agent told me they (AIA) just got the approval to sell PRS recently.

My normal insurance investment link funds perform quite well. Not sure how is their PRS funds.
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hmm.gif if you are referring to their fund's performance, you can it from

http://www.ppa.my/providers/funds-informat...nd-performance/

http://gllt.morningstar.com/e6qvxuu98r/fun...B&tab=ShortTerm


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post Feb 8 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Feb 8 2017, 12:28 PM)
But I can't see any PRS funds under RSP.
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goto FSM MY
click FUNDS SELECTOR
select PRS PROVIDERS
in the list of PRS funds.....select FUNDS INFO TABLE tab

they have the RSP minimum amount listed.


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