Honda Malaysia offers 0W20, 5W30 and 10W30 for Honda cars, 5W40 is recommended for Civic Type R....

http://www.honda.com.my/sales/parts_lubricant

Honda, a member of JAMA (Japan Automobile Manufacturers Associations) will recognize specification developed and implemented by ILSAC, currently, the standard is GF-5....

http://www.oilspecifications.org/ilsac.php

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If you are looking for most updated specification and standard for your Honda City,

It should be:

SAE, 0w20, 5w30 or 10w30
API SN
ILSAC GF-5

I think pumpman was trying to say, the engine will be more powerful using lower viscosity grade oil (5W30) than 10W40....

Looks like the particular model is officially licensed by API.... with service standard of SM....


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API SM is suitable for 2010 and older gasoline engine...

Mind to share technical data sheet of the product?

Do you mind sharing with us the product data sheet?

No, it is not engine oil data sheet, a typical engine oil data sheet should look like this:

I am sorry, too.... You have just lost a potential customer...

Thanks!!

Sounds like a good stuff, shouldn't have problem getting the datasheet...

Intercooler is a device to cool down the intake air after the turbo, it has nothing to do with cooling down the engine moving parts or lubricant....

The engine oil film thickness or film strength actually increases as flow of lubricant increases....

A xW40 (higher viscosity) engine oil has only less than 10nm when it is flowing at the speed below 0.04 metre/second, But a xW30 (lower viscosity) engine oil can reach more than 13nm of engine oil film thickness when it is flowing at 0.08 metre/second.... The key of protection lies on the speed of lubricant flow, a lower viscosity oil which capable to flow at higher speed can actually provide better protection than higher viscosity oil which is prone to flow slower...

Engine oil that flow slow in oil gallery inside a glowing hot turbo charger will likely be having "coking" effect, the engine oil will be "over cooked" and turn into carbon deposit or sludge.... A couple of engine oil tests have actually address such issue, such as ASTM D6335 and Honda HTO-06....

10w30 is recommended in owner manual.... Is 10w40 a more rational/better choice? or Proton had made a mistake in choosing right viscosity?

Don't worry, you can buy Perodua 5w30, API SM, it is semi syn and it is made by Petronas... and it is cheaper than Syntium 800.

http://www.mymesra.com.my/?ch=mm_2011&pg=p...pl=2011_article

http://eolcs.api.org/licenseAgreementService.aspx?id=1096

According to Petronas Dagangan web, Syntium 800 5w30 semi syn is API SM and ILSAC GF-4 certified

According to API web, Syntium 800 5w30 semi syn is now API SN (one notch above SM) certified with "resource conserving"... without any ILSAC

ILSAC GF-4 is no longer valid after 30th September 2011 and it is now replaced with GF-5... and Syntium 800 is not ILSAC GF-5 certified/approved... technically, this oil can be considered quite a good oil before 30th September 2011, but judging by current standard, it has not been able to meet current ILSAC standard yet... So why not looks else where for 5w30 which is API SN, ILSAC GF-5 approved?

Be very cautious not to choose oil without official API or ILSAC approval.... All official approvals can be checked here http://eolcs.api.org/, it is always up to date...

There are 2 Perodua 5w30 oil, the one packed in silver bottle is claimed to meet API SL standard, another one that is packed in gold coloured bottle is claimed to meet API SM standard...

I don't need to recommend you which 5w30 oil is API SN and ILSAC GF-5 approved, because there are many active oil sellers here in this forum, very soon they will post up their products and next thing you know you will PM them for price....

Hahaha, Royal Dutch Shell....

You will get best result when you have not used a better product before.

I had used before, Mobil 1 EP is one of the flagship range of Mobil 1 USA...

Good oil but there are better ones in the market...

You can PM me

Can anyone enlighten us how good is Liqui Moly, why it is good?

Please exclude the reason of made in Germany, thanks.

Bro Quaza,

Do all Liqui Moly engine oil blended with MoS2?