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post Oct 3 2006, 02:35 AM

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Somehow somewhere, I got the hunch that wouldn't be the end to stargazer >_>
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Oct 2 2006, 08:47 PM)
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true... but then the golden bling bling was still on if I'm not mistaken, so I presumed that the power supply is still adequate. Maybe it is more important to bling bling even when batt is low?? Or maybe I remembered wrongly... will check the anime again.

edit: checked again... and it seems that SG indeed ran out of juice. But then, it can still withstand the impact of the laser while grabbing Noir. Hm... this part is weird. A battleship was disintegrated by the laser, while 2 MSes aren't? I think it might be due to SG's shields or doughnut, since when the laser hit them, there was some sort of scattering of the laser beam.. But then it might be plot armor?

I know that the 669 hours mean that they probably used up their supply of O2. But then again, if Sunrise wants them to live, they WILL live... After all, how many times did Kira not die when he is supposed to? Same goes with Mwu, even Heero Yuy.

If they wanted Sven and Selene to live, they would come up with some excuse. For example, maybe Stargazer's AI awakened and realised that both of them are dying, so it turned the air con to full blast and cryo-ed them... freezed them into popsicles.

I like character deaths, only if they died for a reason. Letting Sven and Selene die in this way is mellow, good for making gloomy atmosphere, but for no reason (except to end the story of course).

Space whale... Indeed it didn't appear. It didn't get mentioned in GSD either, although it was elaborated in GS with the history of George Glenn. That's why I felt that it would be a nice touch had they included some glimpses of flying space whales at the end. At least it would serve as a reminder of deep space exploration, reflecting on what Glenn found on his journey into the vast galaxy.

QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Oct 2 2006, 09:36 PM)
good things ends early. If they drag stargazzer till 50 ep its gonna be star-gay-zer.
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gay... haha.... i dont think there can be 50 eps of deep space exploration... 10 episodes will suffice, like those short series. Anyway, BANDAI achieved its target with this series. Models are being released, and the response is decent.

I prefer to see the series as a successful move by Sunrise to regain viewers' confidence in CE, after what Fukuda and co. did to the wonderful franchise of gundam. It should serve as a warning to Sunrise that they should never ever let Fukuda and co. touch any gundam series. Again.

If he does, we'll have this (gotten from animesuki)
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post Oct 3 2006, 10:46 AM

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is Stargazer episode 3 out?
I can't find the torrent
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post Oct 3 2006, 12:36 PM

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cos this guys watch the chinese sub which are 100x faster than our English counterparts.
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post Oct 4 2006, 01:06 AM

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Finished Zeta III... rclxms.gif

After watching all 3 movies, I am really exhausted (yet enjoyed) from all the conflicts in the show. Although I must say the 3 movies are still too short and inadequate to thoroughly elaborate each and every one of them, and there are quite a lot of issues which I am still not very clear. The complexity of the political issues and character conflicts dwarf GSD, which had a potential great story that was ruined by the inteference of Lacus and co.

The movie's relatively short time (compared to a full 50 eps) fails to elaborate on several characters, especially Kamille. Even though I have not seen the original series, I do know that Kamille is a hot-headed angsty teen, but the movie seldoms shows his emotional conflicts and outbursts. Even when his parents were killed in front of his eyes, his feelings and grief was much less compared to Usso, or even Shinn. I would like to think that it was due to time constraint that Kamille's bereavement was left out. In addition, Kamille as a main character didn't get as much attention as the other characters, eg Char. In the movie, Kamille seemed like just another kid drawn into war, where the story and setting doesn't revolve much around him.

In fact, the two baddies Haman and Scirocco were more eye-catching than Kamille. And Haman was really a bad ass antagonist, cold, mean, manipulative, and skillful. Scirocco was a decent madman too, he would have been better had he not looked so girlish and acted like a flirt. Somehow UC characters, esp main ones, tend to be chick magnets... Scirocco had Sarah and Recoa falling for him, Char in CCA flirted with a sexy mature chick and a precocious teen (!!), Usso had his share of breast treats doh.gif

Action was top notch, as the 3rd movie was all blazing with battles. But again, I suppose time constraint affected the duels as well. Recoa and Emma's duel was settled within one sabre clash, I'd love to see more cat-fights involving chopping of both their mechas' limbs, heads, legs... Hyaku Shiki was too inferior to battle the appalling Quebeley, and in fact Hyaku got chopped up real badly by The O before engaging Haman. Final battle btw Kamille and Scirocco would be better if there were more debate and arguments about both pilots' polarizing opinions, like when Kamille exchanged mind power with Haman.

Deaths... Zeta was infamous with the amount of deaths, but somehow the movie made the deaths appear less frequent. Less emphasis on the deaths perhaps, as the less important characters would just blow up and vanish. Recoa's, Emma's and even Henke's deaths were somehow inevitable, because comrades of the main character usually have to die, with the exception of Mighty Morphin' Power Kira. Although I must say Emma's death was unnecessary. Kamille should have gotten his cerebrum fried by Scirocco, and the happy ending with Fa left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn't like the pairing of Kamille and Fa, it was one-sided with Fa being lovey-dovey and Kamille not giving a damn. Kamille was more obsessed with Four, which had a poor death. The original one where she died with Psycho Gundam was better, that would have made an impact with Kamille's character, making him more angsty. I guess the altered story does explain why Kamille's wrath was missing.

Lastly, after watching several UC series, I noticed that newtypes are similar to Star War's Jedis. There is only a thin fine line between the bright side and the dark, one brief lapse of evil thought and you're stuck deep in hell. Like Quess, like Recoa... even Katejina, all of them went to the dark side within seconds. And newtypes rely too much on their feelings in battle. Instead of following plans and orders, they often let emotions run wild and take control. Of course, since UC focuses on newtypes, most of the time their acts result in victory, for protagonists that is.

Anyway, I must say I enjoyed the movies very much, although they doesn't really do justice to the full length series. Now I still have F91 to watch haha... After this no more time for full 50 episode series... yet I still want to watch Turn A.... rolleyes.gif
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huh? the english subbed is already out??
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post Oct 5 2006, 11:33 PM

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Yeah man... Just finished F91... superb superb SUPERB....

I especially love the background music, which was always a dark gloomy marching tune, like Star Wars... In fact the entire Cosmo Babylon organisation is reminiscent of Star Wars' dark empire... with Iron Mask equalling to Darth Vader.

Too bad Laffresia was KOed so easily... would have love to see that piece of WMD thrash some colonies...

meanwhile, These are Astrays... and this is not.

T_T

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the 2nd pic is so damm unispiring... Where the Zout,Ginn and Guaiz mecha designer...

Why dont Zaft make a Monoeye gundam... Since every non gundam MS produce by them is Monoeye... Why the Gundam have Dual Eye.

I wish Impulse was monoeye... Feels more Zafty look. Also it blends in well with the Zaku and Ginns.

Anyway speaking of F91, yeah its a cool anime, I esp love the Art, feels very realistic, SHAME ON FUKUDA!! FOR USING 100x recycle pic and crappy art.

Mecha wise: I love the F91 adaption of the Jegan, Heavygun (wish there was a MSIA of it) and Gcannon.

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post Oct 6 2006, 10:46 AM

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^ if only ZAFT's ZAKU wasn't that much of a cannon fodder, I'd like it more. The design is quite decent, although it is clearly a rip-off from the original zaku II.

ZAFT cannot make mono-eyed gundams... coz that will not be called a gundam anymore. tongue.gif

I want more Ginns... more Cgues.... let them pwn some gundams!!

F91... top notch... and truely shows the cruelty of war. The first battle which lasted quite long was appalling, with citizens getting spoofed by crumbling buildings or stray gunfire. Brutal... absolute brutal. And seeing various suits get gunned down is better than CE's grunt-killing, where grunts hover stationary and get shot... use shields.. bodoh?!
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Well Gundam is a very fragile word use in Seed Era... Although Seed People rarely call them as Gundam.

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ZAFT cannot make mono-eyed gundams... coz that will not be called a gundam anymore


Well why not as long there a V fin, Its perfectly legal to call it a Gundam. Why hell TurnA fins is a moustach, i dont see why its stops people from calling it a Gundam.

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F91... top notch... and truely shows the cruelty of war. The first battle which lasted quite long was appalling, with citizens getting spoofed by crumbling buildings or stray gunfire. Brutal... absolute brutal. And seeing various suits get gunned down is better than CE's grunt-killing, where grunts hover stationary and get shot... use shields.. bodoh?!


Atleast in F91 troops know how to manuver around unlike seed they just stand there as practice targets.


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erm... can anyoen tell me MK-V and EX-S appear in which series? or in manga only?
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QUOTE(lencent @ Oct 10 2006, 09:46 PM)
erm... can anyoen tell me MK-V and EX-S appear in which series? or in manga only?
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ExS is in teh Gundam Sentinel novel(or was it manga?)


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has anyone got zihren zabi's speech on Garma's funeral? I know those that frequent 4chan's gonna have them. can post it up here? I've only got the stardust memory version
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I address the Earth Federal Forces, and the Loyal Warriors of the Duchy of Zeon. You now face the Delaz Fleet. The armistice that was signed to end the Zeon War of Independence, which has since come to be known as the One Year War, is nothing but a lie. It was signed by traitors, who approtpriated the name "Republic of Zeon". We, the forces of Zeon, have never lost sight of the war's objective, and soon you will have your proof. Of this I can assure you. You have been forewarned. Day after day their memory has never left me, the memory of so many men and women lost to battle, for Spacenoid independence, and the young people who fling themselves once again into those flames.

In response to the just Spacenoid desire for freedom, the Federation continues to build up its crushing military might, and to pluck it out, as it buds. I know this is true, because I have seen the proof. Observe! The results of our battle! It is obvious to anyone, that this Gundam was developed for the sole purpose of a Nuclear attack, and having been developed in secret, is a clear violation of the antarctic treaty, and is apparent evidence of the accursed Federation's evil intentions.

Look back, what gave rise to the Zeon war for independence, Why did we become followers of Zeon Zum Daikun?

For three long years we have waited, we stand united and not one person in our force will turn away from their duty any longer.

Now with the blood of the young burning within us, I declare war upon the Earth Federation government one last time. We shall ignore the whispers of what is known as a false peace. We shall repeat now and forevermore what we hear in our hearts, to restore the Glory of our Homeland.

SIEG ZEON!

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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Oct 10 2006, 10:30 PM)
ExS is in teh Gundam Sentinel novel(or was it manga?)
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Ex-S Gundam is from the gundam sentinel novel.

One of the best gundam novels as well as the best mecha design!

I downloaded the chinese translation & just finished chapter 8 out of 14...

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Dudes...Gunota reported they got a hit from US Department of Defense since their inception 3 years ago...the DOD getting ideas to create a fighting mecha?? sweat.gif
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post Oct 11 2006, 07:14 PM

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maybe some guest who visited the DOD who is a big gundam fan so while waiting he use DOD comp to go to gunato.
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post Oct 15 2006, 10:42 AM

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No gundam news lately? Hm...

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POWER OF TURN-A !!

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post Oct 15 2006, 02:47 PM

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hmm is the stargazer episode 3 sub yet or still raw ? //
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post Oct 15 2006, 03:22 PM

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Lol backpacks, I want bigger backpacks!.

For those Gundam Noobs, IN the UC esp the Rx-78 the Backups are really small.

But in Seed "Mitsuo Fukuda" the MS backups are occupy half the MS size.
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yeah....most of the EFSF and AUEG mechs have small ones...

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