And the protagonist's going to be a Zengar too! That makes it an instant win!

I wonder if that Strike clone Gundam that he pilots has a HUEG sword hilt at the backpack that can magically make a HUEG sword blade materialize out of thin air ala Daizengar style...

but will this be the one to save the CE universe? Let's see:

1. No fukuda... this means the possibility of crappy recycled scenes and poorly coordinated battles (godlike spam, one man chop all) would be less likely. And maybe this time the episodes would be balanced out, plus the better elaboration and development of characters..

2. Possible absence of Kira +Lacus gang... Meaning there'll be less fan-worship and "ZOMG, Kira pwns all!!" Not forgeting the uncanny and irritating ability of Lacus to make every character whose ideals are not same as hers turn out to be the antagonists.

3. Finally some focus on the EA, where they got SO pwned by Shinn... Shinn alone... one man army... just like Kira...

4. It might be more logical, and possibly more technical and military-like... I hope they really explain the idea behind Stargazer project... Be it a new MS, a new political wing, a plan to rule em all (like Destiny), or just some technological advancement like the Enhanced Naturals... At least put in some clear cut, logical explanation... and show its effects to the world...

However I am a bit sceptical about the OVA, due to:
1. 3 episodes??? each 15 minutes??? How is it possible to finish one story in such a short time? Maybe it's just a promo clip for some manga... or better still.... a teaser for the 3rd CE series.

2. Strike again?? BORING... I mean, the EA has stolen 3 mechas from the ZAFT, they should have new technology, instead of using back le old Strike... and the design is kinda hideous... hope it's just the crappy artwork, and not the actual animation. And the affix NOIR is girlish...... not being racist here, but the reminds me of the sweet Noin of GW

3. Since it's CE... there is still a possibility of straying back to crappy destiny storyline. I'm worried that if they start mentioning about the old cast, it might just shift its focus back to them... this is what happened to GSD when Kira appeared.

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please use either thumbnail or link for such large pic bcoz it is screwing up the forum view.
HMMaster

This post has been edited by HMMaster: Mar 8 2006, 05:56 PM

Strike is one of the best designs I've ever seen in moden Gundam designing. I wouldn't mind seeing another variant of it. Besides, from the pictar it looks nothing like Strike at all, apart from the upper torso design.

According to them, the whole thing takes place immediately/after the "Break The World" Junius Seven drop incident. EA just stole the 3G from ZAFT shortly before the event (days, or maybe a week, at max?). So, no. I doubt they could reverse engineer the technology from the 3G and implement them on their own designed units that quickly >_>. So re-using the Strike design kinda makes sense.

Given that it's only a 45 minute short, I guess this is the Blue Destiny or perhaps 0080 of the Cosmic Era.

ms igloo 3 is out..

igloo 3 is out for quite some time already...

Strike's design is good in a sense that it is basic and simple (like the other 4 GAT-X)... but yet another variant will be boring... but check this out, it's more Akatsuki than Strike, and it's true that Akat is based on strike, but the Strike Noir is definitely more Akatsuki... the head and the sharp shoulder blades, and most important of all the winged backpack is just like cagalli's version.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/brman/stargazer.jpg

It seems that the designers love to fix gigantic backpacks onto CE gundams... the testament was horrible... and now strike noir has two gigantic wings with tons of weapons on it... two plasma possibly, and funny twisting turrets, which may turn out to be beam sabres but what's with the pistols??? maybe it'll attack in a Chow Yun Fatt jumpshoot style...

It'd be great if CE designs went back to the basic ones like the original GAT-Xs... or better still UC designs... big military looking bazookas instead of having rifles which look as if they come from some super robot war cartoon... UC designs are clean and simple

Dual pistol Dante DMC3 style shooting FTW!

Maybe the pistols are for close range combat? I remember reading a Dengeki Hobby issue about Testament, saying that it has a pistol for close range combat (because Mardigan is far too awesome to use a beam sabre for that purpose)


Still I'd imagine going beam weaponry being the logical route to go. It's just a waste to use up bazillion tonnes of lead/metal to mass produce bullet/bazooka shells, when beam rifles are just as effective in taking out a target (though admittedly, if loads of money were spent on the animation, machine guns are much more cooler, as seen by how the Zaku units use them in MS Igloo 2)

for the sake of animation, cancel phase shift and beam shields, bring back le old chaingun I'd love to see MSes taking bullet hits, slowly destroying their armor piece by piece, instead of one-shot-kill-all ala Beam rifle...

and also create more team based tactical fights... like Yzak-Dearka-Athrun combo... we have too much of 1v1 in Destiny alone already... More grunt loving perhaps... show grunts pwning gundams like UC Zakus instead of useless Windams

To tell you the truth, for the whole time I've spent watching the Gundam SEED world, I'm pretty bungled about one thing: their obtuse usage of beam technology.

When GS aired for the first time, I've read about the lack of use of nuclear reactor as powerplants ever since the ZAFT unleashed their N-Jammers everywhere. So everyone went with battery powerplants, which is although limiting, a novel idea and pretty original for GS. The thing is, so far there's no indication of the existence of the Minovsky particle or something equivalent... so when I saw Strike Gundam's 'beam' saber, I wondered how the heck is that 'beam' saber generated?

For those real familiar with the workings of UC Gundam technology will know what Minovsky particles are and how is it so very pivotal in the developments and various progressions of MS beam technology. Everything from the potent megaparticle cannon to the E-Cap to the beam saber to the beam shield, and other tech like the I-Field to the Minovsky Craft system to the Minovsky drive, all of these important technologies in the UC are realistically explained through the applications of the Minovsky particle.

Now the question is, how are the various beam weaponry in the GS world are created? How is the 'beam' saber and 'beam' shield formed? So far, there's not even the vaguest explanation for those things.

And not only the generation of their 'beam' technologies, what are they powered with? How could all of those super 'beam' cannons be powered by batteries alone, and still be able to blatantly spew out all those energy? Those batteries must have been using some Hell's chemical concoction, yessir... Heck, if I serial-connect every freaking D-sized Energizer battery ever made, I'd maybe get a similar output... for around 3 seconds only...?

And that's just in the category of their 'beam' weapons. How about the way those N-Jammers function? And their MS's 'super alloy' armour? And that overblown DRAGOON system? And that N-Jammer Canceller that came later... hyok, what a plot device...

In its beginning, I'd really approved of the usage of projectile-based weaponry and the solid blade swords that the GINNs used for example, since it reflects on the restrictions of mobile suit developments in the CE universe. Then, the five mighty Gundams appeared, and everything went downhill from there...

For a self-proclaimed 'worthy successor' to the Gundam name, the GS story staff pretty didn't much give a damn about explanatory tech details... They'd probably figure out those unfortunate fans will simply take up arms and make their own assumptions to conveniently cover up GS's own slack-assed existence... even the nonsensical-like G Gundam had decent tech details...

Oh, the sewerlike beauty of the Gundam SEED technology.... what an arse-crack. Another reason why I don't like those fool, mindless, GS-Morphine hopped-on fans who think Gundam SEED owns... go and ________ _____ _________, then ________ _______... D'oh! Oh, the banality of it all...

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Wah... ur statement very long....

If i remember correctly, Gundams in SEED actually run out for energy in very short time. like got one scene, Strike instantly low energy when Kira keep firing... (got or not? :unsure)....

Everything only goes unreasonable in GSD.....

This post has been edited by Godevil: Mar 9 2006, 08:31 PM

Just like what happened to the original Gundam, give GS some time to shell out some reasonable theories on how things like that work. It takes time to think out logical bullshit explanation like Minovsky particles.


A wizard did it. No, really.

And you could say the same thing about battleships in CE too, if nuclear reactors can't be used, then what did they use to power HUEG ships like AA? Again, no official info about this.


For even moar plot devices, play SRW games. You can use Nu Gundam's fin funnel attack, or Sazabi's funnels on earth, or heck, even under the sea


You should go read Astray/Astray R manga. It's made of awesome, win and OMG RED FRAME RUNS OUT OF ENARGY CONSTANTLY AND HAS TO RESORT TO AWESOME WAYS TO KILL OPPONENTS!


Sometimes, if a mecha series is awesome, they don't really need to explain in great lengths about their technology. Kinda like the awesomeness that is GaoGaiGar. I have no idea how the hell EnRyu or ChoRyu can have a face that's made of metal, but is capable of performing human-like expressions. But that doesn't stop me from loving it.

And G Gundam, decent tech details? I'd love to know the exact details of Domon being capable of performing the love love attack thing with Rain, and how Master Asia could beat the crap out of a 18 metre tall robot with his KUNG FU FIST AND KICKS OMG D:


Yes. In a way, it's the new cool to hate popular shows thesedays. Though I must agree with you, in some ways. *grinds teeth at 12 year olds humping all over model kits of GS units, while talking nonstop on how great "FWEEDAM GANDAMN" is to his bunch of friends*

Yah, what magical powerplant is used on those flagships that can sustain itself and all of its definitely-energy-hungry capital-grade weapons? Wonders abounds...


That's why, of all of the merchandise created that's related to Gundam, I never fancied the video games. Never manages to replicate the beauty of controlling and managing a mecha, looking forward to something more akin to the MechWarrior computer games; loved that sim-styled combat....


O rly? Interesting....

And that's why THIS is the SEED story to animate! Heal back the festering wound caused by the Grand Phailed Project that is GSD! Bring back our faith (and the 1000 minutes of life wasted on GSD) in the CE universe!


Gotta love the magical Transformers tech. I've no idea how the classic Transformers could not only transform, but resize accordingly as well. Must have been some real swell metalurgy they're doing back in Seibertron...


Yeah, I understand exactly what you mean. Got on the receiving end of a similar experience about half a year ago. Tolerated the bugger's boasting until the crap ending 50th episode of GSD aired, then I gathered my righteous ammunition and blasted that dweeb back to his old loves Ultraman and Doraemon...


And one moar thing, your new avatar is just plain disturbing...

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: Mar 11 2006, 01:32 AM

More updates from Lord Gunota (lol):



Ah, the Xplosion... can't wait to see it xplode into oblivion...

We need new (non-SEED) Gundam anime! *roars*

Even Mechwarrior isn't spared from being butchered down to become a fast paced action third person view game. The way all the mechs run in newer MW games (like the one for Xbox) is ridiculously fast/agile, it's not even funny. I miss the old MW3/4 days when all the mechs are actually portrayed as clunky piece of destructive robot that's hard to smoothly control.


No. It's superior. Everyone knows surprise entrance from rear = win and gold.

zeta movie 2 subbed out

by tv-nihon rite?

Temporal OT:

Yeh, I loved my MW2 series as well. Loved doing disabling leg shots to all my opposition 'Mechs and leave them scattered all over the battlefield, and later come back after succesfully completing all primary objectives to do some after-work mop up. Salvage cometh! Rare Clan tech! My mercenary blood boils... time to upgrade my 'Mech stable...

Back to T:
Woh? YES, I'm Wooting around my world! Now THIS is Explosion!

Can't wait for the third T-N release...

Whoah now this is news...! From Lord Gunota:

The Promise Of A New UC Gundam Series?
Well, it may be about time Gundam returned to its roots in the UC universe. This is probably the most hoped-for project for the faithful old school fans. A hopeful exit from the pop-culture influence that has ensnared the previous victim of phails 'cough couch seed cough cough'.

I sure wonder which UC arc it will choose to partake in? Since there's already enough of One Year War side stories, the next best scenarios would probably be set in either the Gryps arc or the Formula arc (that's what I like to call these two arcs), or they probably want to delve into the time after Victory Gundam.

For a side story series to be portrayed within either of the two arcs would really be interesting, building up the complex layers of different events that's set in the same time period but in a different location, just like the numerous side stories told within the OYW arc. Another reason would be if the studio's going to make an anime adaptation of the manga, then that would also be feasible because of the number of Gundam manga and novels made that's set in those time periods. I seriously would like to see Gundam Sentinel or Hathaway's Flash animated. Or for the Formula period; F90, Silhouette Formula 91 or even Crossbone. It'll be real swell to see the powerful Jupiter Empire in anime format.

But hopefully no more old series remakes, because is hard to get the same seiyuus from the original version back together (see what happened in the second Zeta movie) and the original versions are all masterpieces already. But one title that deserves a remake would be Gundam F91 in TV series length, cause the movie didn't fare well enough, and with good reason.

And this new UC series should better be in the standard 50-episode length if possible, and not feature length; story compression never does a series justice.

And I hope that the staff that would be chosen for this project would have no history or connections whatsoever with the oh-so-ShEED universe... * prays*

Either way, it's still in the form of a promise, and no definitive project has been announced, so I'll just sit back, let the phailed Bandaispawn videogame Gundams pass by in disgrace, and wait for the glorious return to the long and meaningful history of the Universal Century.

This post has been edited by Fodder Soldier: Mar 28 2006, 03:10 PM

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may i ask, which is the best gundam series?? good story line n all

i would also like to know, the MS - new series ps2 rpg game follows which gundam series?? i like the game.. so i wish to follow the anime.

thanz