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 HONDA CIVIC Club V11, My VTEC goes BWAAAAAHH!!!!

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post Jul 30 2012, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 30 2012, 12:51 AM)
@Madman,
The Ktuned billet B series shifter already got at Chris's place, Samurai Racing and N1.

Looks solid, but I already like the 25mm throw on type R shifters.
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chris did complain on FB about sunway fellers parallel importing K-Tuned items without support or something like that... so yeah...if i get ill prolly get from chris...

how much was the K-Tuned shifter going for?

and i am very happy with my type r shifter + 4" shifter extender...so not too rushing about the shifter business yet though
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2012, 02:28 AM)
chris did complain on FB about sunway fellers parallel importing K-Tuned items without support or something like that... so yeah...if i get ill prolly get from chris...

how much was the K-Tuned shifter going for?

and i am very happy with my type r shifter + 4" shifter extender...so not too rushing about the shifter business yet though
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N1 is authorized dealer, not sure about chris. But I like buying from chris because he's helpful and friendly compared to N1.

The shifter is like RM500 or so. I didn't ask price, but that should be the price range.

Oh, googled Ktuned page. Apparently all the guys I mentioned are authorized Ktuned Dealers. LOL.

This post has been edited by sadako-chan: Jul 30 2012, 02:36 AM
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:39 AM

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afaik chris is the authorised distributor...

its on the pentagon fb page... can check there...

so 5xx is a guesstimate?
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:40 AM

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Oh, btw, my inline fuel filter install had to wait. Kantoi because I didn't consider that I have to modify my hard lines. This is a brand new level of FAIL for me.

Looks like I'm going to get these. I wonder if Ken Racing shop sells them. I don't think so though, I remember not seeing them at his counter.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Product...apter-Fittings/

Anyway,
Bought the superpro bush from hokomoto. Arrived yesterday. Still sitting on my table ATM.

Hopefully I can install it myself tommorow. Compared to OEM lower arms at RM580 each, RM330 for the rear lower arm set is not exactly cheap but still cheaper than OEM option.

Long RANT here about people saying poly is lousy.

Oh, of note is that people always say polybush squeaks, but I'm running poly on 90 percent on my suspension. Only the front lower arm is rubber, and spherical on my trailing arms. The rest is skunk2 polys on the skunk2 camber kit or superpro.

Guess what? it's two years, and I have zero squeaks. Makes you wonder if people really know how to install poly bushes doesn't it? thumbup.gif

But... not all is well though.
The spericals on the trailing arms is one year old now, and I get a bit of free play already from the rattling sounds occasionally, so guess it wasn't a good option for a street car. Still quiet though, it's just the rough roads that rattles it a bit. Only on one side though, so I suspect it might be due to my worn lower arm bushings stressing out the sphericals, it's the price I pay for not doing complete swap I guess. Still, I got the sphericals at a good price from chris, so no complaints. but next time, I'm going for hardrace, since I can't use superpro, because I already removed the OEM outer sleeve when I pressed in the spherical bush.


Well, if you guys want, I will post pictures of how I install my superpro bushes. I usually pack them with the superpro grease, put them in plastic bag, and leave it overnight. Then only press them in. It's not mentioned at any sites, but that's how I mounted my skunk2 bushes, and that's how I have no squeaks. Most people think that poly bushes like ori bushes, cannot grease the outer part, but it's not like that. I had a mechanic install my bushes before, and he said don't need to great the outer part. I said must put, different system mah, but he argued that he's been doing it for years and he's sure. So I let him do it his way.

Guess what? I broke the bushes after 6 months. Hence why I DIY them now, and my method works!

Usually for me, what takes time is not the pressing the bush in, but the cleaning of the rubber bits on the inner sleeve of the ori bushes, since reusing that part when mounting polybushes, we don't remove them. I use a wire brush to clean usually, then fine grit to sandpaper to smooth things out. If you don't smooth out the surface, you will wear out the bush, that's why you see some got the outer diameter got aggresive wear.. because unlike bearings, the poly bush rotates on the OD of the bushing (a little) and on the crush tube (a lot).

Which is why we have to grease the OD as well.

Also, poly bushes not maintainance free. They need to be regreased from time to time. I think after two years, I should regrease mine, so that's probably what I'm going to do this week, bit by bit. So pardon me if I disappear offline.





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post Jul 30 2012, 02:42 AM

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so the feller u mentioned are also listed on ktuned site.. interesting... oh well.. thats between them i guess...

as for the fittings.. try checking at the row of shops behind n1.. alpine something iirc. they do alot of silicon hoses and alot of other custom hoses afaik

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post Jul 30 2012, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2012, 02:42 AM)
so the feller u mentioned are also listed on ktuned site.. interesting... oh well.. thats between them i guess...

as for the fittings.. try checking at the row of shops behind n1.. alpine something iirc. they do alot of silicon hoses and alot of other custom hoses afaik
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Oh, not silicone, I'm running braided for fuel lines. So far from what I've researched only earls make them. And I need to buy a flare tool. Not expensive, but damn, I have to take out the intake to do the flares on the hard lines. So damn lazy to do that. shakehead.gif


Added on July 30, 2012, 4:01 am
QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2012, 02:39 AM)
afaik chris is the authorised distributor...

its on the pentagon fb page... can check there...

so 5xx is a guesstimate?
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Yeah, should be around there based on MSRP.

This post has been edited by sadako-chan: Jul 30 2012, 04:08 AM
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post Jul 30 2012, 05:00 AM

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has anyone already book/got the latest new civic?

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post Jul 30 2012, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(ychwang @ Jul 30 2012, 05:00 AM)
has anyone already book/got the latest new civic?
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The facelifted version 2.0 litres downgraded from 2.0 DOHC to SOHC for better fuel "fuel consumption".

Engine downgrade, why price no DOWNGRADE!? shakehead.gif

Camnilah marketing bullshit.
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(ReidenLing @ Jul 28 2012, 09:42 PM)
8th gen is FD is it....??
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yeah rclxms.gif sorry confusion


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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 29 2012, 10:30 AM)
With what will he repair the crack? at best, can try seal the crack with silicone, then see if his HID bulbs still blow. If no, then yeah, better he replace the headlight, and the SC guy is right. IF after sealing the hole but it still blows, it must be some other problem already no?
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ok good idea too.. but u guys know where can fix it? around old klang road area..
it's it safe to change cheap HID ? i see here alot of ppl selling 100+ though..
ori fd HID is with ballast also?

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post Jul 30 2012, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 30 2012, 03:58 AM)
Oh, not silicone, I'm running braided for fuel lines. So far from what I've researched only earls make them. And I need to buy a flare tool. Not expensive, but damn, I have to take out the intake to do the flares on the hard lines.  So damn lazy to do that. shakehead.gif


Added on July 30, 2012, 4:01 am

Yeah, should be around there based on MSRP.
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not asking u to use silicone... its for the AN adapters u were loooking for... that shop has alot of fittings too as they make alot of custom hoses and silicone is just one of them...they also do braiided
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post Jul 30 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2012, 12:19 PM)
not asking u to use silicone... its for the AN adapters u were loooking for... that shop has alot of fittings too as they make alot of custom hoses and silicone is just one of them...they also do braiided
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Oh i see. But i doubt they have the fitting i want. Because they are doing the old style sleeve tube conversion. But i'll put it on hold for now. Need swap the oem fuel regulator as well, and i have to figure out how to mod it to AN

today, kautim the bushes first
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(e_necro @ Jul 30 2012, 10:21 AM)
yeah  rclxms.gif  sorry confusion


Added on July 30, 2012, 10:24 am

ok good idea too.. but u guys know where can fix it? around old klang road area..
it's it safe to change cheap HID ? i see here alot of ppl selling 100+ though..
ori fd HID is with ballast also?
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FD go for it... nod.gif nod.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 11:29 PM

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mADmAN... any luck in asking ur mechanic friend on wat it takes to get a DC5 exhaust manifold into an ES ? sweat.gif icon_question.gif

Also to other sifus out there... any of u experience / heard other peopl experience engine knocking or pinging due to too restrictive exhaust ?


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QUOTE(unitron @ Jul 30 2012, 11:29 PM)
mADmAN... any luck in asking ur mechanic friend on wat it takes to get a DC5 exhaust manifold into an ES ?  sweat.gif  icon_question.gif

Also to other sifus out there... any of u experience / heard other peopl experience engine knocking or pinging due to too restrictive exhaust ?
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laugh.gif nope...totally forgot about it...hahahahah will try to ask when i go there tomorrow if i remember

cant find any info on the net?
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post Jul 31 2012, 12:00 AM

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post Jul 31 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 31 2012, 12:00 AM)
Power windows, costed nearly 1k doh.gif
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looks like it came from an FD sweat.gif
i'm seriously phobia about my FD already which is why i'm selling it on.
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post Jul 31 2012, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(unitron @ Jul 30 2012, 11:29 PM)
Also to other sifus out there... any of u experience / heard other peopl experience engine knocking or pinging due to too restrictive exhaust ?
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Restrictive exhaust cause knocking/pinging? No, never hear before, but I once got a metallic sound like pinging when accelerating, thought it was knocking/pinging.. turns out it was my exhaust touching a part of the body when vibrating due to poor fitment of exhaust.
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....hoi no need to sleep 1 ahh you guys...??
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 30 2012, 11:36 PM)
laugh.gif nope...totally forgot about it...hahahahah will try to ask when i go there tomorrow if i remember

cant find any info on the net?
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Not anything definitive, lots of speculation mostly... Most info are from the US which have different version of the Civic. blink.gif

I looking for info from more believable source, since dunwan waste money if it's not possible or need lots of modification to get it to fit. My own mechanic said only need to change the front ARB to DC5 if wanna use DC5 exhaust manifold, but several time already the case is he made some wrong assumption which cost me more $$$ cry.gif


QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 31 2012, 03:46 AM)
Restrictive exhaust cause knocking/pinging? No, never hear before, but I once got a metallic sound like pinging when accelerating, thought it was knocking/pinging.. turns out it was my exhaust touching a part of the body when vibrating due to poor fitment of exhaust.
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hmmm... hmm.gif poor fitment, that's a new idea that was not considered, but dunno how to check when the car is running. Anyway the sound only can be heard at between 2500 -3000 RPM when cruising or when accelerating under heavier load (i.e uphill). Also intermittently, not all the time. Sometimes very faint, sometime slightly loud.

Did valve clearance check/adjust 3 times but problem still there, become worse when the valve tolerance is very tight (below spec limit).
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QUOTE(unitron @ Jul 31 2012, 10:18 AM)
Not anything definitive, lots of speculation mostly... Most info are from the US which have different version of the Civic.  blink.gif

I looking for info from more believable source, since dunwan waste money if it's not possible or need lots of modification to get it to fit. My own mechanic said only need to change the front ARB to DC5 if wanna use DC5 exhaust manifold, but several time already the case is he made some wrong assumption which cost me more $$$  cry.gif
hmmm...  hmm.gif  poor fitment, that's a new idea that was not considered, but dunno how to check when the car is running. Anyway the sound only can be heard at between 2500 -3000 RPM when cruising or when accelerating under heavier load (i.e uphill). Also intermittently, not all the time. Sometimes very faint, sometime slightly loud.

Did valve clearance check/adjust 3 times but problem still there, become worse when the valve tolerance is very tight (below spec limit).
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Could be knock, since for older hondas, usually has built in knock sensor for its cars, so it will automatically retard when knocking or pinging, but not all models have it. Dunno if malaysian version have it or not.

As for checking. My one was easy, just rev it while parked, and if got the sound, it's likely the exhaust rattling. Then it is a matter of locating the sound.

If you want to test fit, better go to smaller shops where they have stock of dc5 exhaust, then you can test fit all you like. Of course, their price is sometimes also higher, but I find it's worth it if they let you test-install at their place.

This post has been edited by sadako-chan: Jul 31 2012, 11:03 AM

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