Microsoft is selling thier hard drive extremely expensive. and my advise for the TS if you dont always dl demo 4GB is more than enough for normal gaming , plus you can add a USB drive up to 32 gb if you really need it to store DLC usually game update is very small less than 100mb so downloading update is not a problem now, In my opinion the Xbox 4gb bundle with kinect is the best bundle on Xbox now.The 250gb bundle with kinect is priced too expensive. For that price you can get a PS3 and have left RM 500 to spend on games.Don't forget the expensive live sub.There is a reason PS3 is more popular here becasue it does everything similar to Xbox and it is cheaper.But i must admit. Kinect is really fun "toy" for me.