NOt that Carroll, Downing and Henderson are average..
They arent gel yet for god sake!!
Wanna compare with David Silva? It took almost a season for him to shine, only able to see his true ability near towards the end of last season.  Mata? Not yet, his peak potential aint there yet.
Rash to say someone is average who is born in 1989 and 1990.. (A.C.9 and J.H.14)
Not everyone is Jack Wilshere or Neymar for god sake.

Really? Why?

Sorry but I cannot believe that anyone can harbor the thought of having Torres play for us again after the manner in which he left. Does the term, "Liverpool type player" still mean anything to anyone? Now I've said time and time again that I don't have a bad thing to say about Torres and I still secretly do the Torres bounce and sing the song because in truth we had good times, but like any breakup, we all need to move on amicably.

We aren't a Football Manager type team. Sentiment is one of the key reasons Kopites support the team. It is an emotional relationship. It is the reason that we don't leave the stadium or turn the Telly off early when we are losing. I cannot fathom abandoning someone or something I love during turbulent times, and in truth, Torres did abandon us for a better looking broad as much as I understand his reasons for doing so.

It irritates me when others criticize us for living in the past not realizing that honoring it is quite different but wishing for Torres or Rafa to return is to me, living in the past. King Kenny is at the helm now and our focus should be on what can be done with what we have and not buying or selling players and managers like they are but names on your computer screen.

Lastly, get a grip. Yes it's frustrating to drop points at home against the likes of Norwich and Swansea but everything off the pitch is taking shape at the moment or has no one noticed? Certainly very few talk about anything other than what player we should buy and which player we should play. What about the work someone like Ian Ayre is putting in?  We are in this for the long haul, not looking to by overnight success which is temporary. Take care of everything off the pitch and we'll have success on it. A lot of work is being put in to do what Rick Parry should have done years ago.

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Added on November 10, 2011, 12:56 pmI have one thing to say about this whole buying crap English players thing. Fergie has played a lot of British players but did that stop the mancs from winning the Premiership again and again? Always try to remember what Rafa in particular once said, that it isn't about buying the biggest names, it's about buying the right player. Obviously King Kenny feels he's bought the right players to achieve his vision of how he wants to see us playing so let us wait awhile longer shall we?

the current state of liverpool now only reconfirms that selling meireles and loaning out aquilani is a big big mistake.

mata was just an example. of course, since we dont have CL football, we lost the appeal factor to a lot of players. shows that in order to attract top players, you need to be a top club. even youngsters also nowadays know how to choose their clubs. with the money spent by our top rivals, its probably seem necessary to the owners that we also need to spend to be successful.

i am too aware of the morientes, veron etc etc case. but lets be frank. if they dont perform, how much resale value do they have? how much are downing and carroll now probably worth? of course, the argument will always be = we may never know. top players could be crap, crap players could turn out good.

the manner of which the signing of carroll was explained did suggest it being a panic buy. as torres handed in the request on the 11th hour, there was an urgent need to find a replacement. this is a fact. hence newcastle were able to get what they got. who would have spent 35m on a player of his age? how many players in the world that are same age with carroll commands such money? probably a few, just the exceptional few. this is why i suggested that we did not have the advantage in the deal and was forced to pay inflated price for him. no matter what KD or the owners said, its a crazy price. 35m is almost enough to get us a much proven player (same age) elsewhere.

which is also why i question the kind of spending on downing, a player not worth 20m in my books. the kind of money could have landed us players like young or agbonlahor

we are trapped in our own obsession with english players, when we had so many youngsters worth their place in the squad and on the field for the sake of rebuilding, youth policy or whatever we like to call it...

we are so contradicting ourselves

King Kenny is human. he wont be always right so dont defend him like he is

Congratulations guys. now you can get your #19.