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 Honda Civic Hybrid Battery Kong, 2 months after warranty.

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calvin_ng
post Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM

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NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k


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post Oct 2 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 2 2011, 12:09 PM)
Petrol hybrid cars are for rich people. They can afford the batteries and monthly installments. Rather buy turbo diesel and have headache free driving for 5 years. By then, installment also finish paying.


Added on October 2, 2011, 12:12 pm

Many people having trouble paying for road tax and insurance already. Hybrid batteries even DIY still over RM 2k how to pay la?
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Actually if you read insight is quite economical, you service like a regular car. And if the battery died the is a switch to disable the hybrid function. I don't know how much you guys travel but for me rm70 for a 800km drive is good enough. Beside I like the way that it shut down your engine during traffic stop. You may say yala yala petrol cheap here and there... that's because the government is subsidies the petrol. Mind you sooner or later it will end. We see the chaos when badawi increase the petrol price to rm2++ every went crazy even ngv installation fro rm3k shoot up to rm6k call me crazy buying hybrid but when petrol go up then every one will go crazy lining up to pump the last full tank of cheap petrol. Oh you will not be spared using diesel or ngv price will go up face it. In another way battery is getting cheaper and if not mistaken nimh rechargable bateery now is quite a decent price. Rm2k for a battery replacement is not expensive consider it last 5 years it is just rm33.33 monthly and hybrid let me save rm150 monthly... I case whole replacement after 5 years (whole IPU) it cost rm7k monthly work out to rm116.00 offset my petrol savings of rm150.00 I save a little if the price of petrol remains. Just my calculation.
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post Oct 2 2011, 07:22 PM

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It happen before and it will happen aain. Also oil price is going up and there is nothing you can do about it yes you can gamble that our nice goverent will alway be here to protect you hello wake up they just impose service tax for prepaid and increase electricity bill and what petrol will maintain yeah right!!! If you give me to put my gamble money on government or GENTING I choose GENTING!!! Hahaha since when you can put your trust on politician!!! Hahaha I rather gamble on Honda or Toyota I believe they are more trustable than government no offense T&H sux but gov sux even more hahaha


Added on October 2, 2011, 7:23 pmOh Toyota and Honda do warranty the battery for 5 years

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post Oct 2 2011, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Oct 2 2011, 07:29 PM)
honda insight is one stupid car and honda is one BS company..  better buy vios, myvis, protons lancer .. these are the bestest & fastest sports cars  rclxms.gif
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Yay... Yeah go BUY MyVI or what Jeremy Clarckson called MI VI
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post Oct 2 2011, 08:08 PM

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It's ok after 5 years I believe there will be shops selling batteries hahaha I cam get from eBay too so I have no worries since I'm a DIY guy
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post Oct 2 2011, 08:25 PM

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I think by then my salary can cover kua (finger crossed) hahaha
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post Oct 2 2011, 09:16 PM

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Airbag rarely die although stated 10 years but most of them exceed 10 years no issue.

Yes battery may go up interm of price but as I know when battery is rm2 the monthly salary rm1800 is manager salary try getting a manager to work for you for rm1800!!! Hahaha but I believe battery is more affordable now why? Last time I remember taking money to buy rechargeable battery is so expensive that no one will buy (I know cause I use it to play RC) furthermore now I have tons of lipo for my RC heli and monster truck and alot of Nimh for the controller and guess what I feel it is affordable and cheap. Well cheaper compare to gasoline RC. You may argue that but I believe battery is getting cheaper compare to other product like petrol. Pastime I pump rm35 on wira full tank already try pump rm35 to a wira now hahaha
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post Oct 2 2011, 11:47 PM

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For me I will pay extra for safety devices like active safety ABS, vehicle stability, traction control, brake assist, panic stop etc.
For passive yes the more airbag is better and the construction of the car body

You may argue why pay so much for this gadgets... well you cannot argue cause you cannot compare your life with money so much more your family life...

So let me ask you how much are you willing to spend for the safety of your life better yet your wife, your children, your dad, your mom??? And you wanted to put them in risk? I will spend for car safety cause we use 50% of our day inside car and a better car is a better investment for the safety of your family and you. To me I will not compromise on this.
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:15 AM

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I know my dad drive a hilux and previously own a Nissan frontier I know the diesel and trust me it is not that clean... the only reason your diesel engine not giving much problem cause they are using 2nd generation common rail. Try 3rd generation commonrail TD like those found on BMW and merc CDI all black smoke hahaha

Yes you shout now cause at the moment diesel is being subsidies wait till the government reduce it. I do agree the diesel quality is getting better I'm waiting the government to announce the standard for euro4 diesel in Malaysia cause at the moment it is euro2 only.

Hybrid not make to go fast laa well not our kind of hybrid if you wanna go fast you should look at Lexus hybrid (not the small Lexus ct200) but the big performance hybrid. Then you can compare... the current hybrid that get tax exampted is the green hybrid. But then again I do like diesel power...
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:11 PM

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Euro 2 still considered dirty diesel this technology is based on say 1985 grade oh my...

now europe is moving to Euro6
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post Oct 4 2011, 10:23 AM

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we need more green power generators from TNB insted of them burning coal, and diesel we need NUKE!!!!


Added on October 4, 2011, 10:24 am(I know you guys gonna FLAME me hahaha)

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post Oct 4 2011, 10:45 AM

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NUKE NUKE NUKE NUKE NUKE!!!!
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post Oct 4 2011, 12:21 PM

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I play heli maaa and Monster Truck.. all Electric Power smile.gif thats why I have confidence in battery powered car.. no offence...
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post Oct 4 2011, 04:43 PM

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15 years... I dont know change how many car adee hahahaha
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post Oct 5 2011, 10:10 AM

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not really Hybrid have the torque as the Diesel Engine (The torque come from 0-3k rpm) kinda early do you think smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2011, 03:14 PM

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you dont feel it cause all thanks to the CVT.... it is the whole bladi problem is the CVT... it smoothen and suppressed the torque until no oomph....
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post Oct 5 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Oct 5 2011, 03:47 PM)
fuuuuuu...mat cha nih sure alot  shocking.gif
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hmm.. before I sell my City 2006 the recorded is 250,000
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post Oct 6 2011, 03:14 PM

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totally agree... I believe all petrol car should be hybrid,

the way it recycle waste energy to the battery and use the recycle energy to boost the car is actually a cleaver design...

currently all non hybrid car has alot of wastage energy durring traffic stop... I believe this is a waste... waste of petrol burning it and become smoke when you sit in the traffic jam... you also know laaa to turn off tap water when finish using and not keeping the water flowing non stop... this is called conserve energy... petrol also same why keep the engine running when you stuck in jam... or keep the engine running when you are slowing down (de-celerating)

I choose a hybrid cause it is smart and stop petrol wastage...
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post Oct 6 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 6 2011, 05:12 PM)
Auto Start Stop will kill the starter / generator faster in a matter of years and very expensive to replace. Now u enjoy the hybrid technology... fast forward 5 years and problems start coming up and u fork out hefty sums for replacement. On top of that, parts only available from H or T not chop shops like most cars.
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They don't use starter to start the engine laaa they use the brushless motor and brushless means maintenance free


Added on October 6, 2011, 7:33 pmAlso I believe sooner or later sure got chop shop parts one... Currently insight and Prius is the best selling car in japan

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post Oct 7 2011, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 7 2011, 12:38 PM)
Yes life facts based on 10 years experience with electric motor.
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10 years of electric motor... brushed or brushless... DC/AC or 3 phase AC/DC

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