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post Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM

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NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k


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post Oct 2 2011, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(sfwong1 @ Oct 1 2011, 08:15 PM)
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my honda city i think is year 2008. mileage about 130000km++
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Bro u need to chg brake pads. My city bought in may2009 now mileage is 129400 already change brakepad twice.try going for pumatec480.good alternative to the ori honda brake pad.
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post Oct 2 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM)
NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k
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actually, no need to DIY ler...Each IMA battery consist of 40 subpack D cell..just ask the honda service center to replace only the faulty cells instead of changing the whole battery

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post Oct 2 2011, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 1 2011, 07:53 PM)
Aiyar nobody buys a hybrid to save fuel ler. They buy hybrid cuz they wanna be able to say that they drove a hybrid. Something special mar.or other selling point like cbu from japan,etc etc. Saving fuel was never the main priority.
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this is true, lol.

petrol is not that expensive in msia.

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post Oct 2 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 2 2011, 06:57 AM)
Yeah, that's why i didn't consider buy hybrid when i bought my Inspira recently. Not only battery kong, there's lot s of electronics in a hybrid...the IPU in the insight also very expensive....Honda SA told me 30k.....sweat.gif....Whatever you save in your fuel...hardly can cover your maintenance/repair cost....



Added on October 2, 2011, 7:01 am
I think Diesel should be the way to go for the immediate future. Heard some news last time better Diesel are coming to upgrade our diesel to Euro-4M standard or something. Hope its true.
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yea la, thats why i do not consider insight. - smaller, slower, handling so so. only advantage is MIJ and can calculate fuel saving.

prius, extra rm40k, to cover FC. at same price might as well get focus tdci, fun to drive, diesel is cheap too, gomen some simply increase it since the impact is huge.

while for normal 2.0 car, its ok to own, the new and second hand market is flooded with cars like this, so, you're not alone if the FC goes up smile.gif


Added on October 2, 2011, 9:40 am
QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM)
NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k
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can add another battery on top of the existing one? biggrin.gif to add power!!!!

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Oct 2 2011, 09:40 AM
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post Oct 2 2011, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 2 2011, 09:39 AM)
yea la, thats why i do not consider insight. - smaller, slower, handling so so. only advantage is MIJ and can calculate fuel saving.

prius, extra rm40k, to cover FC. at same price might as well get focus tdci, fun to drive, diesel is cheap too, gomen some simply increase it since the impact is huge.

while for normal 2.0 car, its ok to own, the new and second hand market is flooded with cars like this, so, you're not alone if the FC goes up smile.gif


Added on October 2, 2011, 9:40 am
can add another battery on top of the existing one? biggrin.gif to add power!!!!
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how about change the IMA electric motor to more powderful unit? laugh.gif then can match the prius..
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post Oct 2 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 2 2011, 06:57 AM)
Yeah, that's why i didn't consider buy hybrid when i bought my Inspira recently. Not only battery kong, there's lot s of electronics in a hybrid...the IPU in the insight also very expensive....Honda SA told me 30k.....sweat.gif....Whatever you save in your fuel...hardly can cover your maintenance/repair cost....

Furthermore, depends on your usage....people with low mileage like me....one year maybe 10K km only....totally waste money buying Hybrid...cannot recover ROI.... i trade higher fuel consumption with bigger space, bigger boot, power, comfort for low fuel consumption with small car, less comfort, low power and high future maintenance (Hybrid).

Hybrid is just not worth it now....maybe in future. But then, some said EV is the future, not Hybrids. I dun have crystal ball. Can't say for sure.


Added on October 2, 2011, 7:01 am
I think Diesel should be the way to go for the immediate future. Heard some news last time better Diesel are coming to upgrade our diesel to Euro-4M standard or something. Hope its true.
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normally those who consider foreign brand car later on switch back to local brand one, basically they do not really have budget in the beginning, so there is no difference really whether the foreign brand car they are "looking at" good or bad. then later on will find all sort of reasons to persuade themselves that they are making the right choice of their local car. sweat.gif


Added on October 2, 2011, 10:51 am
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 2 2011, 09:39 AM)
yea la, thats why i do not consider insight. - smaller, slower, handling so so. only advantage is MIJ and can calculate fuel saving.

prius, extra rm40k, to cover FC. at same price might as well get focus tdci, fun to drive, diesel is cheap too, gomen some simply increase it since the impact is huge.

while for normal 2.0 car, its ok to own, the new and second hand market is flooded with cars like this, so, you're not alone if the FC goes up smile.gif


Added on October 2, 2011, 9:40 am
can add another battery on top of the existing one? biggrin.gif to add power!!!!
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I buy insight just purely for its look and the 20-30k tax discount from our gahment, seriously if u can afford a car which is rm100k or more, u won't care much abt the fuel cost, as it is minor.

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post Oct 2 2011, 11:27 AM

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ipu 30k... laugh.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 12:09 PM

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Petrol hybrid cars are for rich people. They can afford the batteries and monthly installments. Rather buy turbo diesel and have headache free driving for 5 years. By then, installment also finish paying.


Added on October 2, 2011, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Oct 2 2011, 08:47 AM)
NW insight ipu cost rm7k
If DIY replacement it cost lesser
It is basically Sanyo eneloop D cell (yes it is those big round torch light battery)nimh 5800mah sand there is 84 of those cell... so when you google you can actually DIY just buy those cell from eBay I think DIY only cost rm1.5k to rm3k
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Many people having trouble paying for road tax and insurance already. Hybrid batteries even DIY still over RM 2k how to pay la?

This post has been edited by acbc: Oct 2 2011, 12:12 PM
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post Oct 2 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 2 2011, 12:09 PM)
Petrol hybrid cars are for rich people. They can afford the batteries and monthly installments. Rather buy turbo diesel and have headache free driving for 5 years. By then, installment also finish paying.


Added on October 2, 2011, 12:12 pm

Many people having trouble paying for road tax and insurance already. Hybrid batteries even DIY still over RM 2k how to pay la?
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That is bcoz many freshie buy new car base on waht ever monthly installment they can pay ONLY. they never calculated the overhead such as maintenance, fuel, insurance, roadtax. and many other stuff in life
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post Oct 2 2011, 12:40 PM

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Turbo diesel very good bla bla bla bla... but u have to look @ our local diesel quality first...
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post Oct 2 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 2 2011, 10:49 AM)
normally those who consider foreign brand car later on switch back to local brand one, basically they do not really have budget in the beginning, so there is no difference really whether the foreign brand car they are "looking at" good or bad. then later on will find all sort of reasons to persuade themselves that they are making the right choice of their local car.  sweat.gif
couldn't agree more...as what I have been telling my friends...do not expect Honda Insight as an economical car..
coz the savings you would made petrol would probably even up with the maintenance that you're paying for this car
put it in this way...honda insight is a car which is worth of 180k value type of ride if there is no tax exempted by the government....having that said, no doubt the regular maintenance cost of it would be even more expensive compared to a 2.4 camry/accord

anyway, if you really want to compare a fully imported cbu car local car, let's not compare things like comfortability, handling or performance, etc as these are actually very subjective criterias and different drivers would have different point of view..
Let's compare on one of the most basic but yet essential criteria...which is safety
Honda insight has 5-star rating from international euroncap for safety and so far the best Proton (export unit) only made it to 3-stars..can't imagine what would be the rating for the typical local assembled cars whistling.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(n00b123 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:14 PM)

Honda insight has 5-star rating from international euroncap for safety and so far the best Proton (export unit) only made it to 3-stars..can't imagine what would be the rating for the typical local assembled cars  whistling.gif
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the 5 star rating is not based on 2 airbags biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Oct 2 2011, 02:43 PM)
the 5 star rating is not based on 2 airbags biggrin.gif
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lancer @ inspira also 5 star what .. but base on 7 airbag tongue.gif
local insights how many airbag?
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post Oct 2 2011, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM)
lancer @ inspira also 5 star what .. but base on 7 airbag tongue.gif
local insights how many airbag?
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2 lo....

if want good ncap rating, must take peugeot and forte. minimum 4 airbags for 308vti. 6 for 308, 7 for 407. 6 for forte.

damn. a airbags party!!
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post Oct 2 2011, 03:26 PM

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fiesta sedan, properly most affordable 7 airbag car,
want so many airbag for what? when expired , you need to replace it , then you only know the pain.
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post Oct 2 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Oct 2 2011, 05:40 AM)
Turbo diesel very good bla bla bla bla...  but u have to look @ our local diesel quality first...
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Thats very true. Malaysia diesel just dont work with modern hi-tec diesel car. Dont get me wrong it still work, but which mean that you have to change your engine every 100000 km or even less. The colour of diesel in EU is very light yellow. What colour is Malaysia diesel?

Malaysia motoring industry still got a long way to go.

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post Oct 2 2011, 03:31 PM

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subsidize diesel in malaysia is blue colour...


Added on October 2, 2011, 3:33 pmmalaysia still using tier 2 diesel...but soon 4M diesel will be avail

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post Oct 2 2011, 04:12 PM

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So those drive hybrid start to worry now?
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post Oct 2 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:51 PM)
lancer @ inspira also 5 star what .. but base on 7 airbag tongue.gif
local insights how many airbag?
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erm..i think insight only has 2 airbags but it still have much higher scores in ncap compared to genuine lancer lar..

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anyway, are you sure inspira chassis is as tough as mitsubishi lancer chassis and not a milo tin? sweat:
that is why I didn't choose inspira

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