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hianz86
post Aug 26 2013, 01:38 PM

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Hi all sifus, i need recommendation.

I plan to drill thru wall -> concrete i believe. For LAN cable laying. Kindly answer my inquiries as follow:

1. How much power needed?
2. Hand drill, rotating hammer or Impact drill?
3. Any brand that can last long?
4. Budget?
5. Drill bit. How many mm is suitable for the LAN cable to go thru?
6. Which dealer is goodingz?
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post Aug 26 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 26 2013, 01:47 PM)
http://csmhardwarecity.blogspot.com (here u can get A -> Z items)

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Hmm bro,

i not using any case. user posted image
will not have this capuser posted image

So if Makita HR2470, what is the current price for it?

QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 26 2013, 01:52 PM)
normal hammer drill for concrete kenot la.. very tough...
just watch the vid posted here by TS.. it is on the 1st page 1st post...

get rotary hammer...
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The second tool he is using very powderful yo!~ shocking.gif shocking.gif

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post Aug 26 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 26 2013, 02:35 PM)
not the RJ-45 cap / case .. i mean the cables u will be running in a PVC case or else? impact drill enuf not rotary hammer biggrin.gif
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Nope. Runs Naked. I plan to get the drill that versatile to most of all the situation that for DIY job in house. One of my hobby too to DIY my cabling and all sort of fitting. So i wanted to know which to get....


Hitachi Rotary Hammer 2 Mode, 800W, 24mm, 1050rpm, 2.3kg DH24PB3 this seems sexy and the price also good too!
Makita Rotary Hammer SDSPlus 3modes 780W 1100rpm 2.6kg HR2470 more exp @_@

So which one better?
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post Aug 26 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 26 2013, 02:41 PM)
u wana diy one time, or u doing biz?

u wana drill 'tebok lubang' on concrete or install plugs to lay cable??

now cap ayam rotary oso very cheap liao if u wana use it one time...

wana find out price just call the hardware shop , or google online, for csm, ct etc etc..
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Drill THRU concrete wall to lay LAN cable. I also like install plugs on wall.

Cap ayam not dare use leh.

QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 26 2013, 02:45 PM)
not sure exact pricing, even for DIY and business purpose we run SKILL 500W and Bosch 500W impacts sufficient unless im using rotary hammer for larger holes and breaking wall purpose  nod.gif

usually, i just use wall type C-clip rather then drilling, install plu n screw .. to much hassle for naked wired, else i just use normal impacts to installe white PVC case to run 5 or 10 cables at a time biggrin.gif
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Hmm, i hope can get 1 in 200~300 bucks. RM400 bucks is a little tight budget for me.

SKIL Rotary Hammer 3 modes, 550W, 1550rpm, 2.2kg, 1715 enough for the job?
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post Aug 26 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 26 2013, 02:58 PM)
its a good deal  nod.gif
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umm umm. i will go check out. See which i can get la. I now know why i can't get the drill into the wall ad....rupa rupa nya, i need to use Rotary hammer. blush.gif blush.gif

QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 26 2013, 03:01 PM)
cap ayam alot of ppl swear by it oso, if u r not pro n dun use it everyday...
the cheapest 'branded' with back up is DCA...

skil tho cheaper version, it has back up frm bosch, their service is good, so u no nid to worry...
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Really not dare to buy those leh. Think i just get SKIL la. Or save more money get Makita HR2470. laugh.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(myzaidane @ Aug 26 2013, 03:53 PM)
200-300 RM only can buy 2nd hand bosch drill.. new one is  about 750RM
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2nd hand ar? @_@ I think i opt for SKILL or Hitachi la....do the research....

MAKITA 2470 RM550 can get. If sales price RM460 lor....
SKiL 1715 RM300
HITACHI DH24PB3 RM380

Bosch too exp...no dare to think as i looking for some entry level powderful to drill tru walls. got any lubangs?
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Aug 26 2013, 04:09 PM)
rotary hammer cannot drill 180mm...
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this is getting really confusing. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Aug 26 2013, 04:13 PM)
Confusing meh  blush.gif

This diamond core drill around 7kg per unit. I seriously dont think I can handle it... But maybe useful for future small core drilling  laugh.gif
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i believe you are not replying me. Lolz. Sigh....drill wall also need to research....really tired.

QUOTE(myzaidane @ Aug 26 2013, 04:12 PM)
200-300 for bosch.
the others I never know the price
if u don want to buy bosch, 2 choice is Makita. then hitachi.. Skil-i hope u don buy it..
for me quality is the first thing to consider. Bosch is the best brand for power tools..
all my tools is bosch. no proble at all until now.
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You got lubang for bosch 2nd hand where can i buy?

Thinking of get Makita at this moment....Skil, any drawback? Mind to share with me?

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post Aug 26 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Aug 26 2013, 04:15 PM)
Actually, Im confused too  drool.gif
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man....you make me feel dizzy rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

i believe i jz need to pay CMS a visit and i can clear all the confusion.

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post Aug 26 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(sw.boutique @ Aug 26 2013, 04:19 PM)
Actually, my normal hand drill is Bosch.

I have 2x impact drills... 1 from Bosch 500w (dunno what model) and one China-branded 1200w - seriously, drilling power better than Bosch. Bosch is good... Now I am planning to get some China-branded diamond core drill and rotary hammer drill... All about money la... LoL!
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i know why all the ATM machine can gone in second liao rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(myzaidane @ Aug 26 2013, 04:26 PM)
2nd hand need to do more reseach.. to find is it ok or have a problem..
I buy 2nd hand impact drill at pekan Ampang.
My Final suggestion is, go to hardware shop.. the u will learn fast.
Just need to survey the price..
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yea. i will go buy from CSM la....since they offer all product. hope can get good price from them la....hardware shop near my place all selling like cut throat price...all those unker aunties hardware shop very lansi no like discount discount. Buy or GTFO attitude
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Aug 26 2013, 04:57 PM)
Black and Decker can get rm170+ and above
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thank you for all the information provided. i will go and talk with those sales representative with CSM and understand more ba.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 26 2013, 05:45 PM)
Land cables pass through the wall or in the wall? If u want to pit land cables in the wall drill won't help you much.

You need diamond cutter and chaser tool.

Some rotary drill will have chaser option.
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pass through wall. Not in the wall.
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(myzaidane @ Aug 27 2013, 01:05 PM)
authorized dealer?
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no la....just random hardware shop owner unkers and aunties.

QUOTE(ERN2 @ Aug 27 2013, 02:59 PM)
I do not know how to cramp the RJ45 head, so I bought the really made 15meters cat6 cable running from my ground flood to upper flood.
So I have to drill 2 holes go through the concrete beam. rclxub.gif

I do not have other power tools like the rotary hammer or impact drill, neither my friend nor neighbor have it. shakehead.gif
What I have is a 350W drill which I bought it at carefour in 1998 (RM69 is very good price then at that time). 

The RJ45 for cat6 is very big, my drill support up to 13mm, but I bought a 16mm bit (can fit) to drill the hole, through the concrete beam. brows.gif
It took me 2 hours to drill 1 hole. I need to stop every 5 minutes to let the drill bit cool down.
The dill bot loosen every now and then thus I need to r-tighten it.  sweat.gif

the 16mm hole can let 1 branded AMP cable go through (with RJ45 head), the 2nd one cannot go through leow. I have to buy a non-brand Cat6 cable from lowyat to snip through it.

I also drilled 3 holes at the concrete floor to install the projector bracket, it tools me 45 minutes for 1 hole enough to put in the wall plug. notworthy.gif

The drill survived the ordeal and now I fit it at a portable drill press, I also use it to drill pocket holes. Such a good buy for me. 

Why I torture my drill at the first place?
Well, my brother ask me to buy the 16mm bosch, so I was adoring  drool.gif
and prepare to throw the 13mm away.

For driving the screw, now I use a china brand cordless driver.

The rotary hammer is my next buy if I need one.
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Walau eh...you so hardcore ah??? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif so diligence to drill so farking long for the hole. if me...sure tampah balik....gone case liao. Lolz. I think of buying those cheap china brand for test after my friend told me....but i think i jz pass it...get a reliable one la....expansive one time but sure reliable
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 27 2013, 09:00 PM)
My last use on such power tools from China was bad. Nearly kill myself. I never want to buy power tools from unknown China made. Just be careful when use. Spark can come electrocut. The head can snap and fly out and shoot someone.
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That is something i scared of china brand......a lot of children in my house.

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