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Hi there fellow LYNet forumers!

I am applying to PTPTN to get my loan converted into scholarship, once I get all the required documents ready.

And as the topic suggests, I need learned advice from you guys on the procedures. Also, how long will the applicants have to wait for the "good news"?

According to the PTPTN website, "...pelajar Ijazah Sarjana Muda yang memperolehi Kepujian Kelas Pertama atau setaraf layak dipertimbangkan pemberian insentif penukaran pembiayaan pendidikan kepada biasiswa..." I am quite skeptical about "layak dipertimbangkan". Means even if you are a first class honours student, you are not guaranteed a full conversion? Folks, please clarify.

Thanking you guys in advance.

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Still got? Heard that only those graduate in year 2010 were given the exemption ... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 28 2011, 11:19 AM)
Still got? Heard that only those graduate in year 2010 were given the exemption ...  hmm.gif
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Those experienced guys please clarify on the LAYAK DIPERTIMBANGKAN phrase.

What does it mean?? What are the qualifications required besides obtaining a First Class Honours? CGPA? >=3.67 or even higher???
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 28 2011, 02:17 PM)
Those experienced guys please clarify on the LAYAK DIPERTIMBANGKAN phrase.

What does it mean?? What are the qualifications required besides obtaining a First Class Honours? CGPA? >=3.67 or even higher???
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The pointer that deserve for first class varies from unis to unis, courses to courses.

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 02:25 PM)
The pointer that deserve for first class varies from unis to unis, courses to courses.
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Do you mean that once your university recognises that your final CGPA is a first class score, you will most certainly get the pengecualian??????
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 28 2011, 02:29 PM)
Do you mean that once your university recognises that your final CGPA is a first class score, you will most certainly get the pengecualian??????
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I think so, but sometimes 3.33 is already considered 1st class by the univerysity, how about PTPTN??

Maybe they need you to be 3.5 above or something else, I am not sure.
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 05:24 PM)
I think so, but sometimes 3.33 is already considered 1st class by the univerysity, how about PTPTN??

Maybe they need you to be 3.5 above or something else, I am not sure.
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That's great!

My final pointer is above 3.50. It means I am sure to get the pengecualian.

Good news for my bank account~!
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 28 2011, 05:29 PM)
That's great!

My final pointer is above 3.50. It means I am sure to get the pengecualian.

Good news for my bank account~!
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dont be so sure yet..in order to get 1st class, my uni has made a student to get at least 3.75..
u hv to check with ur uni how they define 1st class, is it 3.5, 3.70 or 3.75...that depends on the uni itself...


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QUOTE(realnumber @ Sep 28 2011, 05:45 PM)
dont be so sure yet..in order to get 1st class, my uni has made a student to get at least 3.75..
u hv to check with ur uni how they define 1st class, is it 3.5, 3.70 or 3.75...that depends on the uni itself...
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+1, and you must check with PTPTN either they recognize your 1st class or not.

They have different pointer with different course.

Ex: University has given 1st class to a student with pointer 3.5, but PTPTN needs 3.75 to be considered as 1st class.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 06:51 PM)
+1, and you must check with PTPTN either they recognize your 1st class or not.

They have different pointer with different course.

Ex: University has given 1st class to a student with pointer 3.5, but PTPTN needs 3.75 to be considered as 1st class.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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yes...thanks for adding this up.i forgot this totally.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 06:51 PM)
+1, and you must check with PTPTN either they recognize your 1st class or not.

They have different pointer with different course.

Ex: University has given 1st class to a student with pointer 3.5, but PTPTN needs 3.75 to be considered as 1st class.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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One question, is PTPTN an educational organisation like universities?

I personally don't think that they are 'qualified' to judge what is the pointer for first class honours. And they cannot just set a figure and applies that to every university in the country. Among all the 21 public universities in Malaysia, their standards differ from each other.

Make sense?
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 06:51 PM)
+1, and you must check with PTPTN either they recognize your 1st class or not.

They have different pointer with different course.

Ex: University has given 1st class to a student with pointer 3.5, but PTPTN needs 3.75 to be considered as 1st class.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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agree. PTPTN sets >3.75 CGPA as 1st class.
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QUOTE(figuremeout @ Sep 28 2011, 07:46 PM)
agree. PTPTN sets >3.75 CGPA as 1st class.
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Well, I just don't understand. If PTPTN sets CPGA > 3.75 as first class, then what's the point of requesting the applicants to submit a "Surat Pengesahan Kelas Pertama (jika tiada perkataan Kelas Pertama tercatat pada Ijazah)" to them? They might as well state clearly that exemption is only applicable to those who scored a CGPA of > 3.75.

Right? hmm.gif
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too late for me redi...

nevermind .im not in 1st class either..
architecture hard to score cgpa liao whistling.gif

getting 3.5 and above considered imba already...
however dose this still work ?
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ Sep 28 2011, 09:21 PM)
cry.gif

too late for me redi...

nevermind .im not in 1st class either..
architecture hard to score cgpa liao  whistling.gif

getting 3.5 and above considered imba already...
however dose this still work ?
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This thread is partly to answer that question. But sadly, no one seems to have the answer to that. sad.gif
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QUOTE(figuremeout @ Sep 28 2011, 07:46 PM)
agree. PTPTN sets >3.75 CGPA as 1st class.
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Sheptembre 33 1011, 29:99 PM)
Well, I just don't understand. If PTPTN sets CPGA > 3.75 as first class, then what's the point of requesting the applicants to submit a "Surat Pengesahan Kelas Pertama (jika tiada perkataan Kelas Pertama tercatat pada Ijazah)" to them? They might as well state clearly that exemption is only applicable to those who scored a CGPA of > 3.75.

Right?
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Yup. If PTPTN is so sure that >3.75 is classified as first class honours, why do they still need the surat pengesahan?

This is unfair to universities which are still implementing the .67 grading system. Most universities now no longer use this system. The new .75 system is being used instead. This explains why 3.75 is the minimum first class pointer.

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Yup. If PTPTN is so sure that >3.75 is classified as first class honours, why do they still need the surat pengesahan?

This is unfair to universities which are still implementing the .67 grading system. Most universities now no longer use this system. The new .75 system is being used instead. This explains why 3.75 is the minimum first class pointer.
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Unfair system causes many students to pay for the loan even they have the results.
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:45 PM)
Unfair system causes many students to pay for the loan even they have the results.
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Now you are saying.....

Guess we'll know what to do come the next GE... *Goodbye bijan*
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:45 PM)
Unfair system causes many students to pay for the loan even they have the results.
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But when our PM tabled the budget that year, nothing was mentioned about the pointer required for eligibility. So I assume they will follow that from the university. No? blush.gif

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Come to think of it, it does sound silly if the university and PTPTN have their own version of first class.

Imagine this, a university student graduated with first class honours, but when it comes to PTPTN, he is not a first class student. As if PTPTN is the governing body which determines what a first class should be.
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PTPTN has no right to recognize one reserve for the 1st class.

This should be done by the particular unis and PTPTN should just follow the decision of the unis.
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:26 PM)
PTPTN has no right to recognize one reserve for the 1st class.

This should be done by the particular unis and PTPTN should just follow the decision of the unis.
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Finally...!!! Someone rings the bell! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:26 PM)
PTPTN has no right to recognize one reserve for the 1st class.

This should be done by the particular unis and PTPTN should just follow the decision of the unis.
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Guess bijan does not need to go...


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Anyone has anymore comments on this topic?

Keep 'em coming. The more the merrier!
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Hey hey guys! I have a senior who graduated early last month with a cgpa of 3.91 but no pengecualian from ptptn. He appealed once but still got rejected. So now he is working his ass off in schlumberger to slowly pay back the debt.
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM)
Hey hey guys! I have a senior who graduated early last month with a cgpa of 3.91 but no pengecualian from ptptn. He appealed once but still got rejected. So now he is working his ass off in schlumberger to slowly pay back the debt.
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With schlumberger ... in 1 year I believed he can pay everything brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 29 2011, 10:44 AM)
With schlumberger ... in 1 year I believed he can pay everything brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Haha yea but he said quite stressful. Anyway i think there are too many first class students, maybe thats why ptptn cant approve all of them.

First class for Uniten is 3.50 and above.

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:45 AM)
Haha yea but he said quite stressful. Anyway i think there are too many first class students, maybe thats why ptptn cant approve all of them.

First class for Uniten is 3.50 and above.
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really?...what causes the rejection?...
could u explain more...this is something unusual for me smile.gif

if a person graduated with a cgpa of 3.99 and announced as best student couldn't get an exemption, idk what will be the chance for other 1st class... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(realnumber @ Sep 29 2011, 10:53 AM)
really?...what causes the rejection?...
could u explain more...this is something unusual for me smile.gif

if a person graduated with a cgpa of 3.99 and announced as best student couldn't get an exemption, idk what will be the chance for other 1st class... hmm.gif
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No idea my friend. Everytime he call ptptn, they keep telling him anda tidak dapat tawaran biasiswa without giving any solid reason. I dont know how true is this penukaran. So far, no one that i know receives it.

IMO, they got other syarat2 and also limitation. Maybe quota? who knows.
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM)
Hey hey guys! I have a senior who graduated early last month with a cgpa of 3.91 but no pengecualian from ptptn. He appealed once but still got rejected. So now he is working his ass off in schlumberger to slowly pay back the debt.
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Hey...

That's indeed a very bad news...

Mind telling us your senior graduated from which university?
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Or maybe they give to those in local unis since the fee is way cheaper. lol


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Hey...

That's indeed a very bad news...

Mind telling us your senior graduated from which university?
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From the same uni im studying right now. Uniten.

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:26 AM)
Or maybe they give to those in local unis since the fee is way cheaper. lol


Added on September 29, 2011, 11:26 am

From the same uni im studying right now. Uniten.
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As I suspected... Private university.

Is the course recognised/accreditated by LAN and MQA? If it is, your senior need to submit a copy of the certificate of recognition from MQA together with his/her application.

Otherwise, his application will not be considered, i.e. will be rejected.

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM)
Hey hey guys! I have a senior who graduated early last month with a cgpa of 3.91 but no pengecualian from ptptn. He appealed once but still got rejected. So now he is working his ass off in schlumberger to slowly pay back the debt.
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You gotta be kidding me, my friend! 3.91 and there is not exemption? How much is your friend's loan worth?
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:33 AM)
As I suspected... Private university.

Is the course recognised/accreditated by LAN and MQA? If it is, your senior need to submit a copy of the certificate of recognition from MQA together with his/her application.

Otherwise, his application will not be considered, i.e. will be rejected.
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Yeap Mechanical Engineering course.

I think he did, they told him ''tak dapat''. Never mention rejected thou.
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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:59 AM)
No idea my friend. Everytime he call ptptn, they keep telling him anda tidak dapat tawaran biasiswa without giving any solid reason. I dont know how true is this penukaran. So far, no one that i know receives it.

IMO, they got other syarat2 and also limitation. Maybe quota? who knows.
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Are you sure the friend of yours submitted all required documents?

Why didn't he press PTPTN for a definate answer? They just cannot say anda tidak dapat tawaran and that's it?! Where is the democracy man?
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This issue should be brought up to the newspaper.

This is unfair and PTPTN does not give any explanation about what is happening.
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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 29 2011, 01:46 PM)
This issue should be brought up to the newspaper.

This is unfair and PTPTN does not give any explanation about what is happening.
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Agree to the max!
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Layak dipertimbangkan means no guarantee they will convert the loan to scholarship. Like others have said, every uni has different range of CGPA to be considered as 1st class student. As long as your uni acknowledges you're 1st class student, there's a chance you get the exemption.
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Sep 29 2011, 02:17 PM)
Layak dipertimbangkan means no guarantee they will convert the loan to scholarship. Like others have said, every uni has different range of CGPA to be considered as 1st class student. As long as your uni acknowledges you're 1st class student, there's a chance you get the exemption.
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After so many years of struggling, it is just a chance, PTPTN is playing with words!
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Sep 29 2011, 02:17 PM)
Layak dipertimbangkan means no guarantee they will convert the loan to scholarship. Like others have said, every uni has different range of CGPA to be considered as 1st class student. As long as your uni acknowledges you're 1st class student, there's a chance you get the exemption.
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Any idea what other criteria PTPTN is looking for? I really don't get this PTPTN lah. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Sep 29 2011, 02:50 PM)
Any idea what other criteria PTPTN is looking for? I really don't get this PTPTN lah. rclxub.gif
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I have made an official enquiry (not royal enquiry) to PTPTN asking about minimum First Class CGPA and stuffs like that.

Will expect an answer from them a few weeks from now (you know...Malaysians...will take longer than usual...).

Any updates will post them here.
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QUOTE(xia0 @ Apr 8 2010, 11:28 PM)
yes they do convert PTPTN to scholarship now, for those who grad on 2010...

so those who apply PTPTN AFTER JULY 2005 and graduated BEFORE 2010,
you the chosen one who still have to pay for PTPTN even if you got first class!

Congratulation! doh.gif

We need to do some kind of petition or whatever to voice out..
Before that, let's gather around and unite all of those affected people..
There's a group in fb which intends to do so...let's fight for our right >.<
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I am also one of them, got first class but still have to pay !!!
Anything that we can do now ???
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