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post Nov 11 2011, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(vlwl17 @ Nov 11 2011, 05:51 PM)
bro if u r not happy about this say so dont say "hmm... if u wan say me angry den angry lo... wat can i do... i kepo to tell you dun to get mad on this thing edi... " because when i read this thread does seems that u r. just for ur information what makes u think im not a boss? and just because u r boss u dont have to admit mistake, is that what u say? i dont mind u kepo at all but if u are trying to change the fact then it is something that doesnt make me happy. Btw pls paste from the 1st page of any thread where anyone use CW to refer to zhen wei. because i just spend 15min looking thru the whole thread and dont find any till now. So please help me (this kid that need to grow up like u said) to see his mistake? where is the usage of CW?
Oh if u r not sorry please do not say it and try to direct all the mistake to the other when the mistake is clearly urs. Just for your information, even as a kid i know that forgiveness a good trait but would u want to forgive someone who wronged u, blamed u and then called u names and in the end didnt even apologized? or sincerely do it at all. Think about it kelvin the mature man. if u can truthfully answer this urself then u know whats really going on.

again thanks you for ur comments if theres any that is truthful
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laugh.gif dun wan to tell here la... later u fire up again biggrin.gif

i tot cw already apology for his rudeness?

anywhere, sorry for my kepo, u may go on... bump it daily. icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif



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post Nov 11 2011, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Nov 11 2011, 06:29 PM)
laugh.gif dun wan to tell here la... later u fire up again biggrin.gif

i tot cw already apology for his rudeness?

anywhere, sorry for my kepo, u may go on... bump it daily.  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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biggrin.gif if u dont want i cannot force u also kelvin. fire up? just because i type alot its fire up. i think theres alot more u can learn from actually trying to read once before u fire away.

just wondering did u actually read from the first post till now that u claimed in ur post asking me to close the post, since u ask this question?

So CW or ZW apologize for this rudeness? well a few times i think. to the other forumers for his outburst which is my sign now. how apologetic is he? i really dont know. he did apologize to me once but then again claims that he is not wrong on the next post. so i guess u have to narrow ur definition on did Cw apologize for his rudeness to really get the exact answer u want.

as for the using for CW lets use ZW so that ppl will not get confuse since no one else is using CW to refer to Zhen Wei but u. thanks for understanding.

no prob, lu ai kepo asei, just do it with constructive comments and not calling names. I think will be fine with me, mod/admin and ppl that reads it. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 13 2011, 09:48 PM

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his nick is zhen wei, everyone calls him zw or maybe for some very special reasons ppl call him cw on other threads?! i dunno. Said dunno him but call him cw instead of zw cuz saw ppl in this thread call him that is trying cheat 3 year old. dont talk nonsense. do mistake already apologize is one thing, do something wrong already don want admit and keep blame others is another. i dont think ts is crazy, just cause someone wrong him once then he do this. if is like this, he will be very busy. no one to blame but zw own attitude on handling this matter from day one. you say ts is childish, i think kelvin u r also childish. if u dont want fire up ts then just shut up. either ur his friend and also very stupid or your very smart and u dont like zw. let ts bump until he ownself bored then he will stop, he wont continue like this forever. why when he less n less angry already u have to start up the fire again? both u and zw very funny, one say dont want respond anymore but see now still responding, another one say tak apalah i should not disturb u but also still responding. you talk abt forgiveness then u forgive ts bump thread la, show him how u forgive him and dont provoke him here anymore. or u can continue to fire ts here and see it will end or not. since u so grown up, then do what grown up do and let this issue die over time. if this goes on, doesnt affect ts at all, only u so be smart and dont talk no more.
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post Nov 14 2011, 07:15 PM

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people all here know ah..graphic card is the most waste $$$$ for end user and most waste $$$$$ and time for dealer?

but for me as long as the things come from `You` ..so `You` must responsible on it.dont care la how much earn profit.thats why computer got name Sales And Services.after Sales must service.and the service must come from `You`.

TS,u dont want use secret power ke? biggrin.gif i think u know secret power of end user..sure can menang 100%.

You=Seller.
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post Nov 14 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Nov 14 2011, 07:15 PM)
people all here know ah..graphic card is the most waste $$$$ for end user and most waste $$$$$ and time for dealer?

but for me as long as the things come from `You` ..so `You` must responsible on it.dont care la how much earn profit.thats why computer got name Sales And Services.after Sales must service.and the service must come from `You`.

TS,u dont want use secret power ke? biggrin.gif  i think u know secret power of end user..sure can menang 100%.

You=Seller.
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yalor , what u mean is right. i shouldn't answer buyer call at first and never reply to his warranty pm. then the story might different like wat u say.
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post Nov 14 2011, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 14 2011, 10:23 PM)
yalor , what u mean is right. i shouldn't answer buyer call at first and never reply to his warranty pm. then the story might different like wat u say.
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im sure with that treatment i would call for more than just a blacklist also then. just because u answer my calls and reply my warranty pm doesnt mean that u did supply me good after sales service. u are doing what u should be doing and what u promise. which is all these are norm practice for most seller. the same as giving the reason that u always give here to proof that u are responsible by saying if u are not u wont even answer this thread.

u should read again the rules of the dispute thread. u dont answer it and explain urself u are considered guilty. Hence using this excuse is irrelevant. U never had one good defends on anything and they are all really really weak excuses. So it would have been great if u did do all those that u told K.I.T.T. Because then it would give me a better ground to call for u to be blacklisted (and i would even go further to get IT blacklisted) and to make a legal case against u.

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post Nov 14 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(vlwl17 @ Nov 14 2011, 10:51 PM)
im sure with that treatment i would call for more than just a blacklist also then.
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yalor, call my cellphone only if i am no have office base, then i turn off my cellphone becoz dont want do warranty claim for you.
then u can complaint here then i deserve the dispute tag lor.

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post Nov 14 2011, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 14 2011, 10:57 PM)
yalor, call my cellphone only if i am no have office base, then i turn off my cellphone becoz dont want do warranty claim for you.
then u can complaint here then i deserve the dispute tag lor.
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yeap still doesnt mean u r responsible. and till now u dont even understand or know u mistake. its really sad then but its ur life ur call. just like i have mine
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(vlwl17 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:07 PM)
yeap still doesnt mean u r responsible. and till now u dont even understand or know u mistake. its really sad then but its ur life ur call. just like i have mine
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yes, maybe i should ask u pay for some service charge and ask my dealer which locate at puchong to do ON SITE Service to service your PC smile.gif
if after 2nd time u still complaining the gc problem. with some reasonable charge like RM50-60 i think most of PC SHOP Can do.
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 14 2011, 11:32 PM)
yes, maybe i should ask u pay for some service charge and ask my dealer which locate at puchong to do ON SITE Service to service your PC smile.gif
if after 2nd time u still complaining the gc problem. with some reasonable charge like RM50-60 i think most of PC SHOP Can do.
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lol now u wanna give me option. why when i told u that i bring my pc for u to check u didnt tell me about this option?
then 2nd time u wanna charge me rm50-60 for checking when norm pc do checking rm30 only.. lol and like u say logical check pc have to charge. so again i ask isnt it logical also to do checking pc for customer if they bought things from u in a bigger amount. say about 3k? so where is ur logic now?

but my question like all my other question u always avoid. why did u ask me not to send to u when i said i will send my pc to u so that u can check? why did u tell me u r busy?

so where is ur responsibility now. u can give me another option but during that time cannot give me these option that u are offering? are u trying to make urself look good here again?

anymore u wanna add?

btw ZW if u wanna tell me something pls write it out here. i will not entertain anything from u through pm. if u do pm me again. it will be ignore. u have been warn

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post Nov 15 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(vlwl17 @ Nov 14 2011, 11:46 PM)
lol now u wanna give me option. why when i told u that i bring my pc for u to check u didnt tell me about this option?
then 2nd time u wanna charge me rm50-60 for checking when norm pc do checking rm30 only.. lol and like u say logical check pc have to charge. so again i ask isnt it logical also to do checking pc for customer if they bought things from u in a bigger amount. say about 3k? so where is ur logic now?

but my question like all my other question u always avoid. why did u ask me not to send to u when i said i will send my pc to u so that u can check? why did u tell me u r busy?

so where is ur responsibility now. u can give me another option but during that time cannot give me these option that u are offering? are u trying to make urself look good here again?

anymore u wanna add?

btw ZW if u wanna tell me something pls write it out here. i will not entertain anything from u through pm. if u do pm me again. it will be ignore. u have been warn
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Because then it would give me a better ground to call for u to be blacklisted (and i would even go further to get IT blacklisted) and to make a legal case against u.


OIC.

addition in PM to you, u not first day come to my office gua dono i got technician in ofice ?
regarding RM30-50 thing, better refer back all the PMs and post, so u might understand.

last 2 months I moved house, one of the aircon i found not working recently, never test at first, thought it was OK. call up the Jintek where i buy the aircon from. then jintek ask me call to his sub contractor for aircon to come service. I deserve the service since they no install the aircon properly and it auto cut off after a while. because i pay for installation fees. I am working daily, only free at night and not weekend, telling the technician come at night but reject. But it is ok since they promise to come only if i on leave at home. in this case, i buy the aircon from jintek, But I should get on site service, becoz one aircon installation is around RM150. At the same time, I also mention to the technician said I need him to put the cover case on the dinning room wall for the aircon wayer and it charge me RM80 and i agree even i bought alot from Jintek. Btw, i bought all the electronics products from Jintek worth more than RM10k.

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post Nov 15 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 15 2011, 12:48 AM)
OIC.

addition in PM to you, u not first day come to my office gua dono i got technician in ofice ?
regarding RM30-50 thing, better refer back all the PMs and post, so u might understand.

last 2 months I moved house, one of the aircon i found not working recently, never test at first, thought it was OK. call up the Jintek where i buy the aircon from. then jintek ask me call to his sub contractor for aircon to come service. I deserve the service since they no install the aircon properly and it auto cut off after a while. because i pay for installation fees. I am working daily, only free at night and not weekend, telling the technician come at night but reject. But it is ok since they promise to come only if i on leave at home. in this case, i buy the aircon from jintek, But I should get on site service, becoz one aircon installation is around RM150. At the same time, I also mention to the technician said I need him to put the cover case on the dinning room wall for the aircon wayer and it charge me RM80 and i agree even i bought alot from Jintek. Btw, i bought all the electronics products from Jintek worth more than RM10k.
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theres only 2 person which is the qualified technician? whats it got to do with ur reason to refuse to check my pc? because u got ppl in ur office u said u got no reason to refuse to check my pc? read back ur thread. u agree that u are under staff. so even with ur excuse on that its logical for anyone to refuse to check because of not enough staff. besides again u told me and the forum on this thread that u cannot remember anymore. so now all the sudden u can remember that u didnt refuse to check my pc? nice memory LOL come back just in time to save u

ur example there is very nice zw but then again i didnt ask for ur dealer to check. i ask u to check because i bought it from u. hence u shouldnt have charge me at all the 2nd time because i already did what u ask me to do which is to go get it check part by part. so thanks for ur nice story but does not have any bearing here. pls remember that u are still trying very hard to taichi ur responsibility here and that example is not usable here. (if u r stil confuse, its to service aircon.. im asking for warranty exchange not servicing. my computer dont need servicing, i can do that myself)

but all this checking whether it should be paid or not is not important. important things is that u didnt want to check my computer and made me send it for checking then when i told u gc got prob u tell me its not possible. then try to put the blame on me that i tried to spoiled it so i can claim warranty. now thats ur service.


Added on November 15, 2011, 1:14 ambTW u question me why should you lie? about the checking of my pc? its easy because u made a mistake not to check mine and nvr expect me to go ahead and make this big of a scene. u would lie now because this will affect ur reputation for those that reads it. u have all the motif to lie now because its all at stake for u.

u ask me "should u lie?" thats up to u because u are doing it anyway since the first time u post the thread in here.


Added on November 15, 2011, 1:27 amjust for kicks. is ur aircon under warranty for servicing?or is it spoiled? if it was a simple cleaning (servicing) then of course u should pay for it because u could have done it urself. if need to masuk gas of course kena charge. but i dont remember that my gc needs to top up the gas and im sure its under warranty. btw did jintek say that if spoil they will exchange for u the aircon while its still under warranty. but i guess its not spoiled because it was only servicing that was done. so hence u should be charged. another thing, just incase u dont remember. gc dont need servicing also so i doubt u can charge anyone for gc servicing. and if u didnt demand ur rights thats ur fault ZW and dont impose it on me or ur other customers.

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eh, zw, u want this topic to go on forever is it? ts got back his card, u apologize, said u wont respond anymore, this r all right moves. nobody talking abt this anymore ts will stop bumping when nobody respond. then u have to get ur smart friend to start up the fire again, now your friend is gone ur turn to come and start fire. why after u said sry and promise not to respond now u go back on your word? why now u say its not actually your wrong? just admit ur mistake and go away already. u complain ts keep bump this thread is it?? got 2 idiot helping ts bump also, its zw and his fren, good job, keep it up!
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QUOTE(eddy86 @ Nov 15 2011, 03:42 PM)
eh, zw, u want this topic to go on forever is it? ts got back his card, u apologize, said u wont respond anymore, this r all right moves. nobody talking abt this anymore ts will stop bumping when nobody respond. then u have to get ur smart friend to start up the fire again, now your friend is gone ur turn to come and start fire. why after u said sry and promise not to respond now u go back on your word? why now u say its not actually your wrong? just admit ur mistake and go away already. u complain ts keep bump this thread is it?? got 2 idiot helping ts  bump also, its zw and his fren, good job, keep it up!
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he thinks he is right and the apology he made was just a way to make him look good. Im happy that he bumps it and even for this "friends" to do it because they dont do it smartly enough as ppl could have easily connect the dots together. Told him if he wants to do dmg control he, he knows what to do but still he wrote back to try and say he is not wrong in this matter. Best part he pm me to tell me i read his msg in this thread wrongly. If he had nothing to hide he doesnt need to pm me. he can just tell me in here.
to add further i would like to warn others about his devious and foxy nature. he would always try to write things here to show he is the good guy but its the other way. He loves to twist his words, blame others for his mistake and tai chai responsibilities. all these done in a very subtle manner as u can see in this thread. hence i told him that we need to only exchange msg in this thread and not pm. i wont accept calls anymore from him either seeing how tricky he can be changing facts to another to suit his needs. So it has to be something like this where theres records, solid proof and ppl presence as witness.
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QUOTE(vlwl17 @ Nov 15 2011, 06:11 PM)
he thinks he is right and the apology he made was just a way to make him look good. Im happy that he bumps it and even for this "friends" to do it because they dont do it smartly enough as ppl could have easily connect the dots together. Told him if he wants to do dmg control he, he knows what to do but still he wrote back to try and say he is not wrong in this matter. Best part he pm me to tell me i read his msg in this thread wrongly. If he had nothing to hide he doesnt need to pm me. he can just tell me in here.
to add further i would like to warn others about his devious and foxy nature. he would always try to write things here to show he is the good guy but its the other way. He loves to twist his words, blame others for his mistake and tai chai responsibilities. all these done in a very subtle manner as u can see in this thread. hence i told him that we need to only exchange msg in this thread and not pm. i wont accept calls anymore from him either seeing how tricky he can be changing facts to another to suit his needs. So it has to be something like this where theres records, solid proof and ppl presence as witness.
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.the more he defends himself the more he look very bad selller...gud job TS..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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TS. why dont you close it since you already got your gc. Closed it and you still can link them in your signature to tell seller attitude instead of open this forever. Its will just lure those non related forumer giving theirs opinion.
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Can some Admin or Moderators close this dumb thread and delete all not related / personal flaming post ?

It's getting rather stupid and annoying because the problem has been solved in page .... but the thread can still go on with bunches of flaming here and there .

Ps: Delete this too thanks
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QUOTE(Sien99 @ Nov 17 2011, 09:38 AM)
Can some Admin or Moderators close this dumb thread and delete all not related / personal flaming post ?

It's getting rather stupid and annoying because the problem has been solved in page .... but the thread can still go on with bunches of flaming here and there .

Ps: Delete this too thanks
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flame here flame there cuz seller return fire, n maybe u dint read the thread, ts is not happy abt the whole incident, not abt the gc anymore. who r u to say problem solved? ur not the ts, u dint go thru what he went thru with the seller. if he wants to continue let him continue, as long as seller n his friends dont come in here return fire and help bump up the thread and ppl like u who thinks this thread is dumb,stupid and annoying dont come in here n help bump the thread aswell, it will close very soon. If its so annoying dont look at this thread la, whats wrong with u ? nobody point a gun in ur head to ask u come see, after see dont complain annoying la.

u also have an ongoing case dispute with someone here, u should understand. If u dont, its okay, but ts have right to continue this thread to warn others. if seller help ts get a new gc then its understandable but no, ts got it himself, and seller want to come in here talk rubbish summore.
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QUOTE(Sien99 @ Nov 17 2011, 09:38 AM)
Can some Admin or Moderators close this dumb thread and delete all not related / personal flaming post ?

It's getting rather stupid and annoying because the problem has been solved in page .... but the thread can still go on with bunches of flaming here and there .

Ps: Delete this too thanks
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hey dude,u stay away from this thread if u do not understand the situation. keep ur comment to urself. ZW attitude is indeed not nice,even to me...he do not practice good manner in replying our question even in pm. what kind of seller with this attitude? just take care of ur own dispute case with azrull nazreen. give more solid proof.
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i've read almost 9 pages of this , so why wouldnt i understand this ?

and this account is dual-used . the ongoing case is my friend.

yes i do agree zw's attitude is not good as a seller to the buyer , but what's the point you all keep fire him ? feels good or something ? he already apologize for what he has done . ( at least to other people , to ts , i dont know ) , and this has damaged his reputation and the IT too.

if ts bumping the thread just to ask for a proper apologize , ts could inform zw maybe ? and continue bumping the thread , but why people still so busy body wanna add oil into the fire , yes i read that ts is bumping the thread , but others should stay away right? this is a thread to let them solve their problem not our thread to flame zw like nobody's business .

im definitely not siding with zw . his attitude really needs to be changed , or else i dont know what will happen to his company lol . im also a buyer , many customers demand perfect item with perfect quality , who doesnt ? its just that sometimes when things go wrong , dont go blaming each other , find a proper solution and solve it , then both side happy la .

see i dont know why am i replying to other forumer's post , sorry for increasing post count.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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