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TSblablabush
post Sep 26 2011, 09:41 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi All,

Can please advise who pays for the aircond service in a rented unit?
Tenant or Owner?

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WaCKy-Angel
post Sep 26 2011, 09:46 AM

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No rules for such things..Its depend on tenant and owner nego..
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:46 AM

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Of course is tenant. Owner don't use the aircond.
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:57 AM

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I think it depends ... Last time my owner arrange his own aircon guy to come & do the service and he paid for it wink.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(jssl @ Sep 26 2011, 09:57 AM)
I think it depends ... Last time my owner arrange his own aircon guy to come & do the service and he paid for it wink.gif
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Yea depends lor if the owner is stingy then probably wont pay..
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:05 AM

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Ts, you owner or tenant? You rented a room out, rent a room from owner or whole unit? Funny questions u had...
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:07 AM

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I am owner. Very gray line...
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:27 AM

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depends on your negotiations with the tenant. what did you put in the tenancy agreement?
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:30 AM

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Let me give you another one.

Ceiling fan.
Who should be cleaning the dusty ceiling fan?
Owner or the tenant?

P/S TS, is your unit advertised as "fully furnished" unit?
Are you charging the rate of "fully furnished" unit?
If yes, you are responsible to make sure each and every electrical appliance is running in good order.

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post Sep 26 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(blablabush @ Sep 26 2011, 10:07 AM)
I am owner. Very gray line...
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Correct! But are u stingy?

Anyhow, in my opinion, if you rent the whole house out and u know the tenant is a "family" then usually they will kao tim by themself.
Just that maybe piping/toilet problem only bear by owner.

If rent room to students then dont be stingy lor.... tongue.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 12:23 PM

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usually it is the tenant; unless stated in the tenancy agreement


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post Sep 26 2011, 12:52 PM

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then it should be the tenant... check back what is in your tenancy agreement... it should be stated there...
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post Sep 26 2011, 01:02 PM

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Normally tenancy agreement does not state who is responsible for the maintenance of the aircon gas. It's all down to Owner & Tenant.
Some Owners will just pay for the aircon maintenance. Others will not be bothered as they claimed that since the Tenant is using, then they shall be responsible.
Anyway, it does not cost much for the aircon service. tongue.gif
Just give & take loh..
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post Sep 26 2011, 01:48 PM

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Good question. For the aircond to keep performing, it needs the maintenance of gas refill right? Like someone said earlier I believe its responsibility of the owners, since you're renting it out as fully furnished and the facilities are just 'used' by the tenants.

If the washing machine spoils or microwave spoil, its the owners responsibility to replace/repair. Same thing I guess. My case, aircond in my tenants had leaking problem but this was quite clearcut its my problem since they had just moved in. They're paying you for staying and for maintaining the place they stay afterall.
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 26 2011, 01:02 PM)
Normally tenancy agreement does not state who is responsible for the maintenance of the aircon gas. It's all down to Owner & Tenant.
Some Owners will just pay for the aircon maintenance. Others will not be bothered as they claimed that since the Tenant is using, then they shall be responsible.
Anyway, it does not cost much for the aircon service.  tongue.gif
Just give & take loh..
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yah, air cond gas filling is just less than rm100
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post Sep 26 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Sep 26 2011, 01:53 PM)
yah, air cond gas filling is just less than rm100
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most air con contractors will ask u to buy a new unit even though the old unit is not rosak or can repair easily. my air con fren told me that they usually resell the old unit as 2nd hand unit. (eg to internet cafe etc). usually the owner do not want the "rosak" air con, so they get it for free. so they untung form both new and old air con. taht is why u see many ad say free air con checking or gas refill oni rm100 etc. they just want to trap u...
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post Sep 26 2011, 06:28 PM

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Rightfully, owner to bear the cost of servicing since the cost of rental are taken into consideration of fully furnished.

I have never charge my tenant.

Usually I will ask my contractor to do it, then charge to my tenant. My tenant will deduct from the next rental payment.
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post Sep 26 2011, 08:57 PM

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Give a mutual understanding between tenant and you.
Tel the tenant verbally even it is not written.
If it is a fully furnished unit, give the tenant 1/2 week upfront to check with all the wear and tear items.

Wear and tear: electric appliance, tv, fridge, washing machine, kitchen appliance, etc.
If found out faulty within the set period, owner replace. If faulty after period, regardless 2 month-expire of TA, then seek for professional to conduct search on the faulty item. If is due to unforeseen faulty, owner replace. If damage by tenant example drop, smack, etc, tenant replace.

Wear and tear: lights, air con service due to non-satisfy coldness after promised period:
Tenant should bare the cost.
However if gas leaking due to non-damaged by tenant, then owner should bare.

Hard-fixed items:
- leakage
- termite, rats, ants etc
- piping
- electric short circuit
All bare by owner.

This is very subjective thou. Sometimes for hi end property especially condo, and the tenant is expatriate, whereby cleaning services of 2 weeks is provided, all faulty item bare by owner. But if this is the case, it is better to be written in TA to avoid misunderstanding. All included in the rental. Or charge 10% higher than the default rental if tenant want this kind of service.
If u hired an agent, if the agent is good, he/she will handle everything for u, some for free some for premium charge.
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post Sep 27 2011, 02:05 AM

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Personally, I factor in all the service and maintenance in my rental. Your reputation will be damaged by being stingy. For airconditioned units, my tenants are normally from the O&G frat and your reputation will be mentioned in their weekly drinking session outings. If an owner learns to be stingy to their tenants, it is only a matter of time, their tenants will catch up and be stingy to the owners. Even plates and cups, I don't mind changing them after every 6 months. Quilts and pillows after every 12 months. Put simply, why do you think there is a difference between Tune Hotel and Four Seasons?
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When Tennant first moved in is your responsible get aircond service. After or second time aircond service Tenant should paid.
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post Nov 19 2020, 08:30 AM

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Last time when i rented a room, owner arrange and pays for it

Now renting whole unit, owner request me to service every quarter and pay for it, nd to show him receipt as proof
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post Nov 19 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Nov 19 2020, 08:30 AM)
Last time when i rented a room, owner arrange and pays for it

Now renting whole unit, owner request me to service every quarter and pay for it, nd to show him receipt as proof
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Every TA is all about negotiation. If you dont agree, look for another unit.
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:17 AM

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as mention, its gray area when is not stated in tenancy agreement. I think best way is to factor in all the service and maintenance in the rental and rent out as full furnished, then owner to pay. Else rent out cheap without provide AC, let the tenant handle...
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Nov 19 2020, 08:30 AM)
Last time when i rented a room, owner arrange and pays for it

Now renting whole unit, owner request me to service every quarter and pay for it, nd to show him receipt as proof
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Every quarter a bit Kiasu lol annually still ok
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Zwean @ Nov 19 2020, 09:46 AM)
Every quarter a bit Kiasu lol annually still ok
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still acceptable for me, every times just doing some minor filter cleaning will do as im allergic to dust, and the service guy is actually my relative so indirectly helping him as well biggrin.gif win-win situation
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Zwean @ Nov 19 2020, 09:46 AM)
Every quarter a bit Kiasu lol annually still ok
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Just buy a receipt book and self issue one every quarterly.
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 19 2020, 11:08 AM)
Just buy a receipt book and self issue one every quarterly.
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This fraud liao
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:41 AM

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last time the owner service the aircond clean clean only rent to me. after that i get ppl to come service every year, paid by me.
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Zwean @ Nov 19 2020, 11:38 AM)
This fraud liao
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Every 6 months or 1 year, then service.

If 1 ac, ok...... 3 to 4 ac every 3 months ?

Doubt landlord service his own unit every 3 months !

3 month is not normal recommendation by manufacturer.

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post Nov 19 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(TiF @ Nov 18 2020, 09:41 PM)
last time the owner service the aircond clean clean only rent to me. after that i get ppl to come service every year, paid by me.
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I do the same n include it in my TA. 6 months once is my requirement but as long as you do it one last time before u give it back to me I'm fine.
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:06 PM

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Who use who pays lo, why always got this question.

If you don't want pay also ok, owner just add 50 bucks to your rent.

So you rent higher but no need pay to service. Which you prefer?
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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Nov 19 2020, 12:06 PM)
Who use who pays lo, why always got this question.

If you don't want pay also ok, owner just add 50 bucks to your rent.

So you rent higher but no need pay to service. Which you prefer?
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Is not about to service or otherwise. 3 months interval is an unreasonable request.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 19 2020, 11:42 AM)
Every 6 months or 1 year,  then service.

If 1 ac, ok...... 3 to 4 ac every 3 months ?

Doubt landlord service his own unit every 3 months !

3 month is not normal recommendation by manufacturer.
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Yup.

But still don’t issue fake receipts.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 19 2020, 12:26 PM)
Is not about to service or otherwise. 3 months interval is an unreasonable request.
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Ya true
3 months if on 24 hours everyday


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i paid for all my units, if tenant already paid, i request for receipt & deduct from rent
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post Nov 19 2020, 02:39 PM

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I provide the air conds to be in workable condition ... thereafter it is up to the tenant to use and service as and when he likes... I am not paying for any maintenance whatsoever

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QUOTE(blablabush @ Sep 26 2011, 09:41 AM)
Hi All,

Can please advise who pays for the aircond service in a rented unit?
Tenant or Owner?

Thanks!
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Normally it’s tenant. It’s stated in tenancy agreement that service is half yearly.

But if lucky maybe will meet owner who will do it
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post Nov 19 2020, 06:43 PM

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should be tenant if not stated in agreement, wear and tears part, unless air-cond broken that's different haha
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tenant, once a yr. stated in TA
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Aircond service by owner
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