hi, regarding Liga Bangsa/League of Nations (that organisation that was supposed to prevent the second world war but failed)

why is my Sejarah teacher saying that it happened because orang nazi tidak puas hati (Nazis were not satisfied with it) due to many reasons (yeah of course) but one of those reasons being that League of Nations were controlled by Jews, even the LON's emblem is the Jewish's "lambang" (marking)


but from what I'm seeing here on the internet, it looks like this




Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Jewish "lambang" supposed to be the Star of David? this LON emblem looks more like a pentagram than a Jewish star... (I'm not saying it is Pentagram.. just saying it looks more like it..)

and was LON actually controlled by Jews? My sejarah teacher's a tuition teacher tutoring at least 1000 students from Form 1 til Form 5 at this tuition centre in KL.. he's a good teacher.. really, especially when it comes to textbook facts.. but when he's talking about out of the book facts.. i can't help but to wonder why it isn't exactly the same as the ones I see from the net.. should confront him the next class..

Oh, and this is a somewhat related question, is it really true that Amerika Syarikat is controlled by Jews from behind? That's what my teacher said also..

Any replies are greatly appreciated.

Ignore him. He's got his own political angle and most Muslims always believe that the world are controlled by the Jews/Zionist. The League of Nations failed to prevent the 2nd World War for the very simple reasons that many of the countries in it were still scarred by the First World War. Hence the policy of appeasement which basically meant that if we give to Hitler what he wants, he will be a good boy and leave us alone!

The other thing to note is that if the League of Nations were controlled by the Jews, then how is it that 6 million jews were gassed by the Nazis during the 2nd World War? They weren't doing a good job were they to allow their own people to be gassed to death!

I wanted to point that out to him last Satuday, but there were at least a hundred students in the room at that time.. didn't want to memalukan him.. and also didn't want my own plan to backfire me because I wasn't sure about it myself. A few months ago when I confronted him about Communism he said that the reason why Chinese people here have many Atheists among them is because they still have the communist ideology in them... what are your thoughts about this?

This post has been edited by KuzumiTaiga: Sep 25 2011, 09:47 PM

Wow, what a deep thinking philosopher! If that is his logic, then the majority of western people who are not allah fearing like him are communist too! Besides, you better tell him, China is the largest communist country in the world and also the 2nd most powerful nation in the world with the 2nd largest economy after USA. Your teacher better get ready to be communist than since Malaysia is going to them cap in hand asking for protection and money.

lol funny, why would you want to ask about the massacre of the 6million jews during WW2 by Germany? Whats the relation between this and the LON? the LON already broke off and failed miserably during the start of WW2. Even "If" the jews controlled the LON, what good or help could they have done ? Everyone was busy saving their own asses while many others have fallen. Germany and Russia both literally tore Poland a new Hole in the ass , with France not even capable of holding their lines for more than 1 month, Finland tried its very best to hold of the Russians and the British holding off Germans . Almost all other countries fell quickly or either surrendered. Italy played its bro-mance game with Germany and Japan on the east basically raped the entire Indo Asia & South East Asia, plus nearing to tear Australia a new ass hole as well. Russia itself is caught in the middle (Geographically) between German's Nazi and Japan's Imperial Army. War was everywhere. Who would save the Jews? Those death camps weren't discovered until Allied Army marched into Germany and stumbled upon them. You cannot pull the LON and WW2 together and then ask for a relation between these 2 in regards to the killing of the jews. WW2 from the Axis' side was well planned and coordinated, although they were short lived by America's intervention and Germany's stupidity in their attempt to conquer Russia, one cannot deny that It was really impressive for them to have taken on literally the entire world. No one cared about the Jews at that point of time , because their own life is on the line.

Your history teacher was wrong to put the whole thing on the Jews regarding LON's hierarchy of power . Another thing is, Germany was unhappy due to many reasons, one of the main ones being the Versailles Treaty that suppressed German's power over their own land, another being the communist ideology wide spreading in germany. Of course Jews was one of their torn in the flesh but relating Jews and LON to explain why Germany was unhappy ? That is clearly stupid. What he taught is sufficient enough for any SPM sitters to score in their exam, but unfortunately that is not the real part of history. TBH, Malaysian history text book is full of bias. Go back to the story of Zheng He's visit to malaysia. Go read historical articles about Zheng He's voyage, and you will know about the 30,000 troops he brought from china for his expedition. You will also find that he defeated the Palembang and Sri Lankan, and how he caught the Royal Families of these government back to China to show off to the Emperor. Then you will understand why Malacca chose diplomacy over force. Its not because China Admired Malacca Sultanate's wisdom or whatsoever and therefore establish ties between countries. Its more like an indirect submission of Malacca to such mighty foreign power ever seen. So how accurate is our text book ? And our Teachers ? Questionable.

Regarding communism ideology still living and planting its seed on chinese people's mind. That is BS. Human dont need God or Religion to continue living and existing. Communism kicks out the idea of Religion because it was deemed as a form of division between China's people within their rule. They didn't want anymore division between people and went for one thing and one thing only in order to unify everyone under one system, under one ideology, which is Communist. Chinese in Malaysia today have more atheist among them because they chose to be so and not because they are under any spell or influence of communism. We have more Atheist out there in western countries, are they communist too ? So nope. The only relation that exist between that statement from your teacher is that ," China was a strong communist country - Chinese are from china " Nothing more than this. Most chinese ancestors in Malaya last time came during the Qing Dynasty rule. Qing Empire encourages Religion and is the only dynasty in China's Monarchist history that welcomes all forms of religion to the empire, that includes, Christian, Muslim, Taoist, Buddhist, Hinddhus , and even Shamanist.

This post has been edited by Zozi: Sep 26 2011, 12:58 PM

to think about it, LON is a failed attempt to maintain peace. Germany at that time is an advance nations despite their lost on WW1. Malaysia's history books is full of lies and bias. we need to find the truth by our own effort..

Definitely, Malaysia's history is twisted in every way that it can be. I hope the gov will review back the syllabus of History papers. Otherwise Malaysia will be full of people who dont know their country's real history. No point distorting the truth.

Teachers are NOT real historian. They might be good within textbook syllabus. But beyond that, they won't bother to know more, to make their own research and look for other source. I guess not all are interested to watch History Channel either coz they don't have time coz have to correct homeworks or simply wanna relax their mind after spending their time at school.

most kids today tends to watch cartoon and anime.. im really jealous with them.. during my time, it is hard to find knowledge.. whenever i want to know about things, i will need to go to the library, browsing books by books..

Don't forget that wikipedia blessed us all in this generation, not the previous though.

This is our education system...

u just hafal semua..then u mesti score A...AAAAAAAA

lu Jangan Tanya saya, saya ajar u apa, lu ikut saja. Same like japan who change their history book....LOL

R u taking SPM or what...normally if in exam, question like this jarang keluar. Tembak saja.

If u wan know More about it, go buy a book call: "Perjuangan KU- by hitler"
The book also write by other ppl based on the less evidence found about HITLER.

Why Jew Keno Kick Ass by hitler??? Jewish Popuan cantik Ma LOL

World War II is a continuation of World War I and the cause of World War II can be pointed directly at Hitler... His ambitions to restore Germany to its glory days and rebuild a Thousand Year Reich is what got the whole thing started. That and also that the other Western powers were reluctant to get into another war with Germany (because of their previous experiences in World War I).

The League of Nations would have benefited if the USA joined it, but at time America was practising an isolationist policy of not getting involved in European affairs.

Teachers are also individuals that you should prevent trusting every time. There are biases and perception of teacher that is not congruent with what they teach.

Personal views and opinion should not be accepted as our true source of learning unless you really ponder about who the person is.

Funny guys. There is a saying

"Winner writes history"

There are always two sides of every story, and you (usually) only know one half. The winning half. It's not just Malaysian history textbooks are filled with BS. American, German, Japanese, Chinese, Singaporean etc history textbooks are only telling the half-truth that the governments want their people to know.

Stop talking bull how Malaysian textbook is full of crap, we all should know no history textbook is not without its biased. It's your responsibility to get your information from more than one source.