QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 21 2013, 07:27 PM)
3.5kWh/kw means for every kw of solar panel, you will get 3.5kWh of energy produced in a day.Solar Power Generation, for home use/sell back to tnb
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 21 2013, 08:12 PM) Than it should be 3.5kwh/kwp? But is it accurate? You are right, it should be 3.5kwh/kwp, I missed the 'p'. No system operates 100% efficiency. The 3.5hr already consider the system loses. In our country we normally get more than 3.5hr of sunlight but due to higher temperature and system losses, cloud, rain, on average we will get around 3.5kwh/kwp for our panel.He have 7.7kw panel and base on 3.5hr sunlight, able to generate 27kwh ? That is 100% efficiency? |
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Jul 22 2013, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(dude35 @ Jul 22 2013, 03:25 PM) It is well worth to research in the modules that you are selecting. Having said that there are only 2 locally manufactured Si modules that i see trusted. One being q-cells, the other is MSR. I do not know if Panasonic started to sell locally (Plant in Kulim). Maybe others could share other supplier that could obtain the RM0.03 cent adder. If I am not mistaken, the panel from Sunpower also considered as locally manufactured. Sunpower panel has the highest efficiency and lower degradation rate but is more expensive. Anyone investigate this panel?The other factor I believe good customer support for warranty claim. As it is standard module will have the performance warranty:25yrs. 90% - 1st 10yrs, 80% - next 15 yrs. So at least supplier can swap any defect modules/complain fast. Actually the main killer in Si modules are the heat from the roof. Commercial projects i.e warehouses, system are design with a lot of clearance from the actual roof. Most will degrade at a rate of -0.4% per degree raised. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 22 2013, 08:18 PM) This year sharp came out the highest efficient panel which I think will take few more years to go into production. It will definitely takes a number of years to be available commercially. Just curious, what are the comment solar panels available in Malaysia market?http://inhabitat.com/sharp-breaks-its-own-...ent-solar-cell/ |
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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 23 2013, 08:51 AM) Personally, I have come across generation performance for QCell(mono), Panasonic(mono), Yingli(poly), BYD(poly) and CNPV(poly) Have you investigate Sunpower panel. From my understanding, Sunpower has one of the highest power rating. For example the E21 series can produce 327w.All have similar capacity (240-245W) and ordinary panel (not HIT, n-type mono) Guess what? All have same performance. The difference is minimum. |
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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 24 2013, 02:18 PM) My experience above is based on actual performance in Malaysia. No investigation involved, just compare generation data. From dude35's table, panasonic panel has the lower 'Temperature Coefficient of Pmax' and it is smaller in size. For those who has small roof, panasonic panel may be good to maximize the total output per area.I have not come across any Sunpower panel yet. (I'm in doubt. Any guys want to bring in Sunpower?) Sunpower is expensive brand. E20 series is high efficiency panel. Each solar panel company has high efficiency panel for showcase and Malaysian SP don't use them. The pricing is not justify when compare to ordinary panel. I haven't meet any Panasonic HIT or Yingli Panda in Malaysia. In case, you want to investigate, I suggest you to look for "Temperature Coefficient of Pmax". The lower the better. This is the measure of performance drop when panel working at temperature higher than 25deg C. Does anyone know how much more expensive are the panasonic or sunpower panel cost compare to other panel? Personally I have not seem panasonic HIT panel yet but have seem the normal panasonic panel whit is not the HIT model. |
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QUOTE(dude35 @ Jul 24 2013, 02:11 PM) The e-series that you mentioned is 96 cells configuration so you must then compare the same size/configuration. Eventhough sunpower has more cells but the panel size is relatively about the same size (1.6 x 1m) compare to the general panel. So I guess it will be good for those want more power from limited roof space. Just do not know how much extra cost will it be.I have attached a simple summary. In general a lot of manufacturer have 6x10 cells as standard. For this case I could not find for Sunpower and Panasonic. In short conclusion between Sunpower,Q-Cells,Panasonic: 1. Highest output module: Sunpower at 327Wp. 2. Highest output per cell: Q-Cells at 4.5W/cell. 3. Lowest heat coefficient: Panasonic at -0.3%/deg C. You must know the cost RM/Wp as this is how modules are sold. In the end it depends the whole system cost and your assume ROI. |
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QUOTE(Solar freak @ Sep 9 2013, 12:18 PM) It seems Sunpower module is not popular in Malaysia. Majority of the service providers are using modules from China. You might want to check with the service provider whether they want to special order for you.My service provider is willing to order for me but due to the low volume, the cost is a lot higher than the common available panels. Still waiting for the panels to arrive for this month end installation. |
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