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Solar freak
post Aug 22 2013, 10:44 PM

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I installed the 4kw in my house and start commissioning since 9th May 2013

My System as follow
Panel: Canadian solar CS6P 250W x16pcs
Inventer: SMA 4000TL
DB Box System:ABB product

System generated as follow (average per month)
May:15.595125KWh
June:15.40236667KWh
July:13.89006452KWh




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post Aug 23 2013, 12:23 AM

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Average per day. The system Projected average per year RM 6606.00 which translate to RM 550.50 Per Month

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post Aug 23 2013, 01:37 PM

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My total cost RM 42,500 with Break even at 6.4yrs Form what I projected inclusive maintenance and efficiency drop 1% per yr at the end of 21st year My Gain is RM 67,615

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44,000.00 Dividend Degradation
50,605.89 6,605.89 0%
57,112.68 6,506.80 98.5%
63,520.39 6,407.71 97.0%
69,829.01 6,308.62 95.5%
76,038.54 6,209.53 94.0%
82,148.99 6,110.44 92.5%
88,160.34 6,011.36 91.0%
94,072.61 5,912.27 89.5%
99,885.79 5,813.18 88.0%
105,599.88 5,714.09 86.5%
111,214.88 5,615.00 85.0%
116,730.80 5,515.91 83.5%
122,147.62 5,416.83 82.0%
127,465.36 5,317.74 80.5%
132,684.01 5,218.65 79.0%
137,803.57 5,119.56 77.5%
142,824.04 5,020.47 76.0%
147,745.43 4,921.38 74.5%
152,567.72 4,822.30 73.0%
157,290.93 4,723.21 71.5%
161,915.05 4,624.12 70.0%
67,615.05

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post Aug 28 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ Aug 23 2013, 01:37 PM)
My total cost RM 42,500 with Break even at 6.4yrs Form what I projected inclusive maintenance and efficiency drop 1% per yr at the end of 21st year My Gain is RM 67,615

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44,000.00 Dividend Degradation
50,605.89 6,605.89 0%
57,112.68 6,506.80 98.5%
63,520.39 6,407.71 97.0%
69,829.01 6,308.62 95.5%
76,038.54 6,209.53 94.0%
82,148.99 6,110.44 92.5%
88,160.34 6,011.36 91.0%
94,072.61 5,912.27 89.5%
99,885.79 5,813.18 88.0%
105,599.88 5,714.09 86.5%
111,214.88 5,615.00 85.0%
116,730.80 5,515.91 83.5%
122,147.62 5,416.83 82.0%
127,465.36 5,317.74 80.5%
132,684.01 5,218.65 79.0%
137,803.57 5,119.56 77.5%
142,824.04 5,020.47 76.0%
147,745.43 4,921.38 74.5%
152,567.72 4,822.30 73.0%
157,290.93 4,723.21 71.5%
161,915.05 4,624.12 70.0%
67,615.05
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TNB Pay me 9/5/13~17/6/13 RM 863.60 and 18/6/13~1/8/13 RM 866 with average RM 20.58 per day rclxms.gif It higher than what Vendor quoted to me RM 550/Mth compare now RM 617/Mth rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 28 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 28 2013, 11:27 AM)
Are you vendor brother? ur username looks suspicious to me haha.
How much ur monthly repayment now?
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Bro No Lar I 'm not vendor but to share my knowledge to you guys ler biggrin.gif

I also construction freak, Water related freak and machinery freak also rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 28 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 28 2013, 11:38 AM)
How much your estimate tax per yrs from the income?
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So far No tax I see under the TNB Billing
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post Aug 28 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ Aug 28 2013, 01:49 PM)
Bro No Lar I 'm not vendor but to share my knowledge to you guys ler biggrin.gif
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TNB Pay me 9/5/13~17/6/13 RM 863.60 on 31/7/2013 rclxms.gif and 18/6/13~1/8/13 RM 866 not pay yet cry.gif
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post Aug 28 2013, 03:04 PM

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In SEDA website :
Yes, it is taxable income and any exemptions would require a policy decision from the Government. KeTTHA will monitor the progress of renewable energy growth in the country and conduct necessary analyses before putting forth any policy recommendations on this matter.

Last updated : 26 OGOS 2011



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post Sep 9 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(erichigc @ Sep 8 2013, 12:36 PM)
any authorized installer using Sunpower module here? PM me.
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You are using Sunpower Panels ?
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post May 2 2014, 06:23 PM

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Hi kawan2,

Long time didn't log into this forum hehe,i wish to report my system and yield as follow.

System:4KWp
Panel: Canadian CSP6-250M Monocrystalline solar Panels
Inverter:SMA Sunny Boy 4000 TL
Installer: Dictrolic
Location: Taman Puncak Jalil,Seri Kembangan
Shading: Nil
Rate: RM 1.3708/KW

Main system parameters System type Grid-Connected
PV Field Orientation double orientation/ field #1(50 % tilt20°, azimuth90° field #2 tilt20°, azimuth0°
PV modules Model CS6P-250M Pnom 250 Wp
PV Array Nb. of modules 16 Pnom total 4000 Wp
Inverter Model Sunny Boy SB 4000 TL-20 Pnom 4000 W ac
User's needs Unlimited load (grid)
Main simulation results
System Production Produced Energy 4819 kWh/year Specific prod. 1205 kWh/kWp/year
Performance Ratio PR 79.6 %

Forecasted Yield 1st yr:4819 kWh/year Specific prod. 1205 kWh/kWp/year


First yield:9 May 2013 Last yield:1 May 2014 (Accumulated 4891KWh)

Date Total KWp Amount (RM)
9/5/13~1/7/13 630 863.60
1/7/13~1/9/13 1050 1,439.34
1/9/13~1/10/13 431 590.82
1/10/13~1/11/13 443 607.27
1/11/13~1/12/13 359 492.12
1/12/13~2/1/14 331 453.74
2/1/14~1/2/14 349 478.41
1/2/14~1/3/14 424 581.22
1/3/14~2/4/14 500 685.40
2/4/14~1/5/14 374 512.68
6,704.60

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post May 5 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 3 2014, 01:04 PM)
Base on your output, average is 70-75% from 4kwp. The output look ok and it is about that percentage output. Canadian panel is average panel. Use a lot in US.

Given the amount payback, should be able ROI in about 7yrs+. Provide the sunny boy inverter don't spoil. It is a good inverter. Should be able to last.
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Thanks for the Feedback. I Provide my status as follow for you guys

Year 44,000.00 Forecast Yield Degradation Actual Yield Surplus/Deficit
1 50,605.89 RM6,605.89 0% RM6,704.60 RM98.71
2 57,112.68 RM6,506.80 98.5%
3 63,520.39 RM6,407.71 97.0%
4 69,829.01 RM6,308.62 95.5%
5 76,038.54 RM6,209.53 94.0%
6 82,148.99 RM6,110.44 92.5%
7 88,160.34 RM6,011.36 91.0%
8 94,072.61 RM5,912.27 89.5%
9 99,885.79 RM5,813.18 88.0%
10 105,599.88 RM5,714.09 86.5%
11 111,214.88 RM5,615.00 85.0%
12 116,730.80 RM5,515.91 83.5%
13 122,147.62 RM5,416.83 82.0%
14 127,465.36 RM5,317.74 80.5%
15 132,684.01 RM5,218.65 79.0%
16 137,803.57 RM5,119.56 77.5%
17 142,824.04 RM5,020.47 76.0%
18 147,745.43 RM4,921.38 74.5%
19 152,567.72 RM4,822.30 73.0%
20 157,290.93 RM4,723.21 71.5%
21 161,915.05 RM4,624.12 70.0%
Total RM67,615.05 (Accumulated Forecast Yield-Initial investment - Year maintenance)


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post May 5 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 5 2014, 01:03 PM)
You need few yrs to get an average yield. The uncertain weather and hot temperature effect the panel efficient. A few yrs will be able to see the stable weather forecast. And the stable panel output.
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Yup agree that is why I keep on monitoring my system Montly as my Solar system location is at my rented out
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post May 15 2015, 09:41 AM

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Year 1

Date Total KWp Amount (RM)
9/5/13~1/7/13 630 863.60
1/7/13~1/9/13 1050 1,439.34
1/9/13~1/10/13 431 590.82
1/10/13~1/11/13 443 607.27
1/11/13~1/12/13 359 492.12
1/12/13~2/1/14 331 453.74
2/1/14~1/2/14 349 478.41
1/2/14~1/3/14 424 581.22
1/3/14~2/4/14 500 685.40
2/4/14~1/5/14 374 512.68
4891 6,704.60
Year 2

Date Total KWp Amount (RM)
1/5/14~2/6/14 459 629.90
2/6/14~2/7/14 453 620.97
2/7/14~2/8/14 466 638.79
2/8/14~2/9/14 418 572.99
2/9/14~2/10/14 442 605.89
2/10/14~1/11/14 402 551.06
1/11/14~2/12/14 371 508.57
2/12/14~2/1/15 292 400.28
2/1/15 ~2/2/15 401 549.69
2/2/15~1/3/15 423 579.85
3/3/15~2/4/15 476 652.49
2/4/15~2/5/15 448 614.12
5051 6924.60


2 yrs commissioned and so far surplus every year from my Projection

Year 44,000.00 Forecast Yield Degradation Actual Yield Surplus/Deficit
1 50,605.89 RM6,605.89 0% RM6,704.60 RM98.71
2 57,112.68 RM6,506.80 98.5% RM6,924.60 RM417.80

I intend to coat my panel with Nano Coating in few months time to boost the Yield as Nano Coating will prevent dust, Sand, Particles for sticking on the panel and affecting the yield. So far for 2 years I did not do any cleaning on my solar system 4 KW


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post May 18 2015, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 15 2015, 10:56 AM)
44,000 is initial investment cost ? Why add on forecast yield RM6,605.89 onto 44,000?
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Yes Initial investment cost RM 44k RM 6605.89 is projection with 0% degradation on system
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post May 18 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(noobiedonkey @ May 15 2015, 11:51 AM)
Where is your location?
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My Location in Taman Puncak Jalil
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post May 18 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ May 15 2015, 01:00 PM)
first time i heard of nano coating....  blink.gif

can you share more....

where to buy / who can do etc?  flex.gif

thanks.....
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I haven't Coat my Panel with Nano coating.Will do in few months time see the result. It is Anti Fouling nano Coating that can prevent dust, Particle, rain drop sticking from the glass panels

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post May 18 2015, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ May 18 2015, 05:45 PM)
Yes Initial investment cost RM 44k RM 6605.89 is  projection with 0% degradation on system
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Year 44,000.00 Forecast Yield Degradation Actual Yield Surplus/Deficit
1 50,605.89 RM6,605.89 0% RM6,704.60 RM98.71
2 57,112.68 RM6,506.80 98.5% RM6,924.60 RM417.80
3 63,520.39 RM6,407.71 97.0%
4 69,829.01 RM6,308.62 95.5%
5 76,038.54 RM6,209.53 94.0%
6 82,148.99 RM6,110.44 92.5%
7 88,160.34 RM6,011.36 91.0%
8 94,072.61 RM5,912.27 89.5%
9 99,885.79 RM5,813.18 88.0%
10 105,599.88 RM5,714.09 86.5%
11 111,214.88 RM5,615.00 85.0%
12 116,730.80 RM5,515.91 83.5%
13 122,147.62 RM5,416.83 82.0%
14 127,465.36 RM5,317.74 80.5%
15 132,684.01 RM5,218.65 79.0%
16 137,803.57 RM5,119.56 77.5%
17 142,824.04 RM5,020.47 76.0%
18 147,745.43 RM4,921.38 74.5%
19 152,567.72 RM4,822.30 73.0%
20 157,290.93 RM4,723.21 71.5%
21 161,915.05 RM4,624.12 70.0%

My Formula calculation total up Forecast Yield-Rm 44,000 (initial Investment)-RM 6300 (Cleaning Every year Rm 300/mth)=RM 67,615.05 (Nett)
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post May 18 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ May 18 2015, 05:50 PM)
I haven't Coat my Panel with Nano coating.Will do in few months time see the result. It is Anti Fouling nano Coating that can prevent dust, Particle, rain drop sticking from the glass panels
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Just imagine if you Car Windscreen not been clean for months (Blur view) hence Panel should have effect same effect. Cooling the Panel also to 25C also can maximise the Yield.

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post May 19 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ May 18 2015, 06:42 PM)
Looks like you will be able to get ROI after 7 years, good investment, May I know what brand, spec of the panel and inverter you bought?
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Yup Estimate 7 yrs ROI.

My System As follow
Canadian Solar CS6P-250M
SMA Sunny Boy SB 4000 TL-20 Inverter
Breakers Schneider.


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post May 19 2015, 01:09 PM

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The electric car company Tesla has announced its entry into the energy market, unveiling a suite of low-cost solar batteries for homes, businesses and utilities, “the missing piece”, it said, in the transition to a sustainable energy world.

The batteries, which will retail at $3,500 in the US, were launched on Thursday at a Tesla facility in California by the company’s ambitious founder, Elon Musk, who heralded the technology as “a fundamental transformation [in] how energy is delivered across the earth”.

Wall-mounted, with a sleek design, the lithium-ion batteries are designed to capture and store up to 10kWh of energy from wind or solar panel. The reserves can be drawn on when sunlight is low, during grid outages, or at peak demand times, when electricity costs are highest.

The smallest “Powerwall” is 1.3m by 68cm, small enough to be hung inside a garage on or an outside wall. Up to eight batteries can be “stacked” in a home, Musk said, to applause from investors and journalists at the much-anticipated event.


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