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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V99, Don't miss out buying time

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cherroy
post Sep 29 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Sep 29 2011, 01:45 PM)
The farking analysts and media.
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Then being anal-ysed ... laugh.gif

Education business especially private tertiary college/universities, it is tough to run
1. Student come and go, turnover can be high.

2. You have no repetitive customer, once graduated, you need to "fight" for new customer with same competitor out there. And every year repeating, a tired game to operate.

3. Most private tertiary has no significant advantage to other, very competitive.

4. In economy slowdown, private tertiary is the first one to hit, as people opt for gov universities, while if cannot afford, just quit and go out to work.

5. Retain talent is difficult, a tertiary college/universities can be famous due to quality of teaching and quality of student they can produce, but retain both top lecturers and students are tough.
So it may ended up point 3.
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post Sep 29 2011, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:07 PM)
Buy dairy products like milk powders

Material cost up, passing to consumer, parents will spend everything good on their babies  brows.gif

What to buy? NESTLE OR DLADY la  drool.gif

Next year is Dragon year aka Chinese favourite year. 望子成龙

Baby born rate will go up next year. Milk powder consumption will up as well. Demand up, sales up, our dividendssss also up  thumbup.gif
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Then it means Takaso sales is not so good this year? laugh.gif
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post Sep 29 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:37 PM)
have you noticed something about SPS-WB. Market buy but seller is at 0.78. Last done 0.76(which is the max for today). Bursa did not maintain its system well. Lucky not match if not have to cancel again
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LOL, system bug?

How can someone can queue 0.78 when the max limit for today trading is 0.76.


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post Sep 29 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:47 PM)
Oh no. SPS-wb matched 83K at 0.785 system error!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice,
with upgraded multi millions server/system.
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post Sep 29 2011, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:52 PM)
You got that? Wow exciting!

If WB offering price is 90 sens, which means you still have another 14% upside.  drool.gif 

However, since SPS already reached quota (RM3.90), thereotically nobody wants to buy above RM3.90 right now, if tomorrow SPS doesn't move, will WA move? Willits call warrant move as well?  hmm.gif
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There is no reason why SPS cannot go beyond RM3.90.
As the offer is not intended to take it private.

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post Sep 29 2011, 02:55 PM

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crazy system, rule said one session cannot up more than 30% or 30 cents for those Rm1.

Yet, we see SPS-WB up 32.5 cents.

See how the KLSE software engineer going to explain this.
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post Sep 29 2011, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:57 PM)
I see. But why is SPS price hover at 3.8x since the whole morning?  hmm.gif
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Because Rm3.90 is the base line, aka you have people offer you at RM3.90 in the future.
Any buying below Rm3.90 is safe, you won't lose money,
but it doesn't mean it cannot go beyond Rm3.90, if market is bullish enough or SpSetia is valued more due to whatever reason.

If PNB intended to take it private at RM3.90, you won't see people buying at RM3.88 either. The most will be around Rm3.80 only.
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post Sep 29 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Sep 29 2011, 04:09 PM)
Here's some explaination on the trading of SP Setia-WB outside the threshold price of 0.76.These explaination are based on notes given by Bursa representatives during the briefing on BTS when it was implemented.I try my best and stand to be corrected.

1.A stock is classified  as  "reserved" for 5 minutes at the opening if

a. the opening price  is outside the upper or lower price threshold,

b.If a market order is not fully executed,

c.only one Opening order is in the book.

2.If an order is not cancelled by the PO(Participating Organisation)within 5 minutes of the market opening,Bursa will proceeds to open the counter for trading.In opening counters under "RESERVED"status,Bursa will at times be required to change the upper or lower price limit of the counter.

This hopefully will explain the circumstances as to why the WB was traded at above the limit up price of 0.76.
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Then the rule of stock cannot rise more than 30% or 30 cents is not true at all.

It can be done with "creative" way.

This is not the first limit up/down we had, so previously people not "so smart" to get away the 30% rule?
Shark may learn new trick today... biggrin.gif

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post Sep 30 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 30 2011, 02:20 PM)
I predict KLCI will either go up or go down.  laugh.gif
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Congratulation, you can become a professional analyst already. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:28 PM

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Huh, just log in check Panamy.
Rm19.80
Monday time just Rm17.50.

Sentiment change so fast within 4 days time...
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(drsaleh @ Sep 30 2011, 02:12 PM)
just want to clarify 1 thing regarding PNB - SP Setia thing..

If majority shareholder reject the offer, consider MGO triggered is lapse? then what should PNB do?
1. can they simply sell back the shares (and reduce their holdings to less than 33%)
2.or they should come out with higher offer?
3. do nothing.. sit back and relax?

if they do choice 1, surely they rake in handsome profits.. considering that they've accumulated the shares during last 'panic selling'.. laughing all the way to their own banks..
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1. There is no compulsory, they must reduce the shareholding to below 33%.

33% is just a threshold that trigger GO, once the GO is lapse and there is still >25% free float out there, which fulfill the listing requirement, then everything back to normal.
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post Sep 30 2011, 03:08 PM

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Just came across news.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...36&sec=business
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String of Chinese entrepreneurs gone into hiding to avoid repaying loans


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 30 2011, 03:05 PM)
if most other shareholders vote against it, the deal will be off?  notworthy.gif
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The correct sentence should if other shareholders don't accept the offer.


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post Sep 30 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 30 2011, 03:47 PM)
But got few crash happened in October:

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A lot of big market plunge down, happened during Sep/Oct.

Isn't the latest plunging is Sept 2011? tongue.gif
Lehman aftermath plunge also Sept 2008.

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QUOTE(mopster @ Sep 30 2011, 03:54 PM)
the OSK + RHB thingy, we're not sure how it will be carried out, right ?
i) share swap like sunrise + uemland ?
ii) disposal of OSK Investment Banking Group to RHB ?

and the annoucement says "possible merger of OSK Investment Banking Group..", not entire OSKH so the NAV may not be that high.

also, what could be the listing status of OSK after the disposal ? possible distribution of special dividend ?

err sorry i'm asking too many unknwon questions... tongue.gif
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LOL, they start want to talk about details only lah.

Not yet conclusive, nor the merger must/can take place. Remember MRCB - IJM talk previously?

You are asking question that has no answer yet. biggrin.gif


Added on September 30, 2011, 3:58 pm
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 30 2011, 03:55 PM)
oh, but the plunge too little to have impact. Haha.. people still buying...  hmm.gif  icon_question.gif
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Who said the plunge now is completed or ended already? tongue.gif

Ain't we see people talk about cut loss on Monday?
No offence. smile.gif

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post Sep 30 2011, 04:06 PM

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I don't know, but what I read a TA, said current KLCI just on 3rd wave of going down, no yet completed the 5th....

Sorry, no good in TA.
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post Oct 1 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 1 2011, 12:52 PM)
they're for company outlook as primary now,...
most analysts say another recession is unlikely, and US data showing slight improvement. EU macro data is still on the -ve side though..
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LOL, since when any analysts said it will happen and the economy did? whistling.gif

Anybody said RE in US will plunge when 2006 time?
When subprime issue emerged time, analysts said it is just a portion, won't affect the prime one, don't worry.
The rest is history.
When RE did crash, many many analysts said, it will recover on 2010 or 2011, now, we are 4th Q of 2011.

When analysts said we were heading to oil USD200, then what happened next?
Oil plunged to USD40.

I would said, if you expect the unexpected, the chance you get right is higher. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Oct 3 2011, 10:47 AM)
Pls......all CI counters, don't show cleavage to me. I cannot tahan one tongue.gif
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Shallow only lah, not (yet) deeper and shaking... laugh.gif

Bad news for the market
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Greece to Miss Deficit Targets Despite Austerity

Means debt crisis won't go away soon, keep haunting the market.

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China manufacturing shrank for the third month in a row and had the longest contractional streak since 2009.
Later this week,
US job data.

Bull must prey this figure at least show some improvement, if not, deeper cleavage can be seen.
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post Oct 3 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Oct 3 2011, 03:25 PM)

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BERNAS is yummy, think of BERAS, BERNAS will pops up in my mind. Cheers biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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As much as I agree on above statement, TNB almost is identical with it, except the capital expenditure for TNB.
Monopoly, once you switch on your light, your computer, you think of TNB. whistling.gif

One disadvantage I need to highlight, rice is the key item and its pricing is sensitive across, be it social or political wise, same with electricity.
So there is social and political pressure on maintain the rice pricing, as same with electricity, aka pricing ability is not fully in control.

Unlike Petronas, oil products, crude oil produced is moved in tandem with world market price.

It fulfill the criteria of daily support or consumer based, defensive nature and don't need to fight for customer, but there is issue on pricing power, social and political issue which the later part mean it may not a pure and totally independent commercial business as mentioned above.
Sum it, very identical to TNB situation.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean it is a good or bad target, just posted some view that may miss out. smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 03:41 PM

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TNB is also a good stock to own, except they cannot or powerless to raise the power tariff enough to cover the cost raising.
If not, TNB also a good defensive nature stock.

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