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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V99, Don't miss out buying time

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andrewckj
post Sep 30 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 30 2011, 04:02 PM)
4pm dumping started....
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just like lask week, Everyone afraid to hold over the weekends.
Confirmed KLCI will close red already...I expect double digit..10.xx points
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:06 PM

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Genting BHD waterfalling..lols
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 30 2011, 04:07 PM)
Wow, gamuda leading to red... why my quene short 1 sen to sell huh, then buy back now.... chissss..
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you park your sell q too high d, Oh well, Im kicking myself too.

Was contemplating to sell Genting Bhd just now at 9.4x but now can't sell already..lols

well well, market punish us for hesitating..
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:15 PM)
ur moo2 and pana still anti grativity le  notworthy.gif
my bernas also consumer ma but kena hantam a bit. sigh...
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Don't worry about BERNAS, if it drop, take that as opportunity to top up. I've been topping up BERNAS like mad..lols
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:19 PM

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haha, KLCI breach the decrease 10 points mark already..lols!
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:20 PM)
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For BERNAS, anything below RM 2.80 is a good buy..dividend stock, long term, you will never be wrong.. Low PE..
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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 30 2011, 04:30 PM)
Ooops, suddenly blink that my Maybank matched??? rclxub.gif
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Sell or Buy??
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QUOTE(protonw @ Sep 30 2011, 04:31 PM)
buy 7.85  rclxub.gif
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haha. people dump to you..lols!
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post Sep 30 2011, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:32 PM)
one thing about bernas .... there is no change to the fundamentals for the past 2 years ... the revenue, profit , dividends is the same ... probably the debts too .  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Good or bad? Safe haven stock?
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post Oct 2 2011, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 1 2011, 10:42 PM)
CI counter is a start.
TWS?  rclxms.gif
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TWS..definitely a good buy that almost reach my buying in price..7.40 and below!
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:41 AM

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Morning people. PCHEM nearning IPO price~~
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(kilrathi @ Oct 3 2011, 10:43 AM)
all never check out the market today ...waiting for budget ! smile.gif)
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U mean Malaysia budget will be announced today?
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post Oct 3 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(noswear @ Oct 3 2011, 11:04 AM)
eh wat happen to dialog??

macam.....got very high after seeing deep V???
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Got new project soon...
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post Oct 3 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 02:51 PM)
beras very tempting at 2.77 la...shud onot????? drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif gimme half a reason.. tongue.gif
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Nibble...haha, I nibbled some d at 2.78, earlier session..hehe

if go down to below 2.70, I will "Beras tambah 1 mangkuk lagi" tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 02:51 PM)
beras very tempting at 2.77 la...shud onot????? drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif gimme half a reason.. tongue.gif
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BERNAS 6866

Product studies
Beras, we the Malaysians consumed it daily. Bad time, good time, beras is makanan ruji kami that unite us the Malaysian, which is true 1Malaysia by silent.

Think of local delicacy, which one is your favourite?

Malay Cuisine : Nasi lemak, nasi dagang, nasi campur, Nasi briyani, Curry rendang (goes with rice? no rice how to eat with curry?)

Chinese Cuisine : Bak Kut Teh, Curry Fish Head, Fried Rice, Kim Gary Cheeeseeee Farn, Teochew porridge, Your Chicken rice, Your daily Zap Farn( Mixed Rice), and the list goes on and on..

Indian Cuisine: Banana Leaf Rice, Nasi Kandar Penang,

Not only limited to rice, Bee hoon is made from rice too. We too fancy bee hoon (rice vermicelli) rite?

That is the fundamental of the product that BERNAS is in, the perfect companion for almost all our favourite food.

Now the financial analysis briefly;

Current PE ratio, only at single digit = 7.69

Dividend yield at current price = 7.1 % at least.. (taking every year, BERNAS declared at least 20 cents divvy) better than some REITS out there.

SWOT analysis:
Strength: monopoly rice market in Malaysia , more than 60 %. No foreign operation..
Weakness: Rice is a controlled item, so the product price can't be change accordingly. Cornered stock. No foreign fund exposure, so the upside is limited, but to some this is the strength. TWS corp holds 72 % + local fund made up to near 90 %
Opportunity: Though rice is a controlled item, population will keep on increasing. Malaysia rice consumption is not enough, we are still importing from Thailand. BERNAS for sure will continue to expand. Also with greater population, greater rice consumption = profit figure increase for BERNAS
Threat: Malaysians will forgo rice as the main source of carbo. How likely this to happen??

I give u a full reason on why you should buy BERNAS, a through explanation..haha. Lastly, a quote I read in an investment book "Support the stock that have your daily support". BERNAS fits in so well for my investment purposes and risk appetite.

By,
kenjunz

BERNAS is yummy, think of BERAS, BERNAS will pops up in my mind. Cheers biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 03:30 PM)
Hmm.. Your threat.. banyak threatening.. Haha.

I vote 100% Malaysian will not forgo rice as main source of carbo
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Haha, Boney as usual, so humorous..lols! It's actually true, i can survive without noodles but not rice.

So i vote 100 % too, Malaysian will not forgo rice as main source of carbo..lols biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 3 2011, 03:36 PM)
As much as I agree on above statement, TNB almost is identical with it, except the capital expenditure for TNB.
Monopoly, once you switch on your light, your computer, you think of TNB.  whistling.gif

One disadvantage I need to highlight, rice is the key item and its pricing is sensitive across, be it social or political wise, same with electricity.
So there is social and political pressure on maintain the rice pricing, as same with electricity, aka pricing ability is not fully in control.

Unlike Petronas, oil products, crude oil produced is moved in tandem with world market price.

It fulfill the criteria of daily support or consumer based, defensive nature and don't need to fight for customer, but there is issue on pricing power, social and political issue which the later part mean it may not a pure and independent commercial business as mentioned above.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean it is a good or bad target, just posted some view that may miss out.  smile.gif
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Yes cherroy, I agreed on this part as well, which I highlighted it on the weakness side on my SWOT analysis part. Rice is a controlled item, so the product price on the upside is very limited and the price control is not on the absolute side of BERNAS..

So after given a simple thorough analysis, it is up to investors/ speculators to decide on whether BERNAS suits their risk appetite. For me, it match my appetite and obviously BERNAS constitute some percentage in my total stock portfolio.

There will still be risk attacked, this is stock investment no doubt, so bros and sis out there, please don't get my analysis wrong by thinking that BERNAS is a sure win stock. The analysis merely serve as a guide and you should consider on whether do BERNAS match your risk or investment appetite.

No worries cherroy, we are all here to share and you free to comment constructively and I appreciate all the constructive feedback smile.gif smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 3 2011, 03:54 PM)
wahh.. if power tariff increase further i will die >_<"  cry.gif imo, they should:
~do away with IPP  mad.gif
~improve efficiency/management
~then only look at power tariff..  sweat.gif
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If do away with IPP, YTLPOWR and Tanjong plc will be unhappy. Lols~ Later, make Tan Sri Yeoh Tiong Lay and Anand Krishnan angry how via their interest in YTLPOWR and Tanjong plc? Later both of them don't want to continue invest in Malaysia, and following Robert Kuao footsteps? Government in dilemma..lols tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 3 2011, 04:07 PM)
IPP model is actually good.

It is like outsourcing, by then you can concentrate more on your core business issue, and less man-power and personnel needed eventually reduce the expenditure as well as potential capex and tedious maintenance issue on power generation.

You buy Rm x from IPP, then sell it at RM Z = x + y(profit+ cost), which is the perfect model of profitable business.

But... the contract....

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So in the end, the best solution to save TNB is to have a better management team. MAS also need a better management team. oh well..
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post Oct 4 2011, 02:35 AM

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Good time to nibble tomorrow, Confirm will retest 1350 level, if the 1350 breach, let's welcome 132x, but the support will be there at 1310..

Time to start nibblling on tomorrow. Adapt 8S tomorrow: Slow, steadily see see scoop some solid stocks.

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