Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
5 Pages  1 2 3 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread V12, 1Darkside ! 1Nikon ! D800 rumor !

views
     
TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:30 PM, updated 15y ago

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


V12. Please continue your discussion here. rclxms.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Where to buy your camera and accessories : ( Under construction )
Credits goes to various forumers input

YL Camera @ Pudu Plaza
J One @ Amcorp Mall
Bintang Electronics @BB Plaza
Tarita @ BB Plaza
Foto Shangri-La @ 1Utama
Foto Selangor @ (Pertama Complex)
Boeing Photo, LG Floor @ Sg. Wang Plaza
Keat Camera Servis @ Jalan Pudu (same row as Fei Por Restaurant)

This post has been edited by 168257061: Oct 21 2011, 09:15 AM
TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:30 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS



How to differentiate AP and NIKON MALAYSIA warranty set.

All Nikon Malaysia set comes with warranty card like this
user posted image

The wording NIKON MALAYSIA SDN. BHD on the warranty card is the best way to identify whether it's a genuine local set. smile.gif
*


Courtesy of KTCY
TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:31 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


Credits to : KTCY    
                                                                                       
If you are a Nikon user, now you can register for a FREE *membership of the Nikon Club Malaysia by logging on to www.nikonclub.com.my (available from 11 April 2011) to enjoy the photo talks, seminars, workshops, photo trips, posting of images in the gallery, exhibitions, critics to save your shots, contests, products news, members feedbacks and comments, technical information and support, advice on repair service, and much more.

This club is open to all Nikon users including any collectors, photo enthusiasts, hobbyists, serious amateurs, and professionals. Members will have the opportunity to exchange ideas, share their passions of photography among the same users who understands and uses Nikon range of products extensively.

*Subject to the terms and conditions with a Nikon (Malaysia) warranty card

TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:31 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


Second hand lens/dslr buying guide.

Credits to : zrasang


Firstly, check the outlook for both Body and Lens, if you're happy with it, then proceed to the next stepsssss.  cool2.gif

For the Body:
1. check the Shutter Count, the lower the SC, the better it is, just like a car's milage. Google has a clearer explanation.
2. if the Body has motor and top LCD, make sure they both work well, it's sux if the motor doesn't work, it's sux if the top LCD can't light up.
3. test the Body with various memory cards, you don't want to have error while shooting, don't you? (sometimes it's the memory card that give trouble)
4. test Continuous shoot, will the shutter jam?  rclxub.gif
5. basically you'll have to test everything, every single functions and settings of the body, like ISO, pop-up flash, the condition of hot shoe, the buttons etc etc

As for the lens:
1. it's important that the rubber is still firm.
2. make sure it works on more than ONE Bodies.
3. play with aperture, the zoom if it has, play with it like a toy.
4. if the lens got dust and fungus inside, you can send it for cleaning.
5. if the contact points are dirty, gently use eraser to clean it.
6. if the lens is AF-S, make sure the motor inside is silent while auto focusing, no loud squeaky sound.

what else?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Remember, these are based on my personal experiences, correct me if I'm wrong  notworthy.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:32 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


Credits to : Kiki-Lala for providing this useful info.

How to differentiate counterfeits and original Nikon Battery Pack / AC Adaptor and Charger & Accessories

--

Fake MB-D11


QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 26 2011, 09:59 PM)
Beware Of Fake MB-D11

Click Here<<< how to spot a Fake D7000 Mb-d11 fake grip

user posted image
Beware of fake Mb-d11 by My Photo loh, on Flickr

I actually Got SCAMMM... NOOO...!! So beware of the fake mb-d11.. this is the best fake battery grip ever..

Never Buy this Batter grip from this seller: Hairiny
Read this Thread for more info>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2033668

Be careful Guys
*
This post has been edited by 168257061: Sep 27 2011, 05:06 PM
ifer
post Sep 21 2011, 04:33 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


nikon centre kuala lumpur is looking for someone to join the team that runs the nikon club malaysia. a website club that is organised by nikon centre kuala lumpur. they are looking for someone who knows a bit of design and of course have an interest in photography. plus good BM. please PM me if you are interested.

they are looking for a full timer.

thank you very much.

This post has been edited by ifer: Sep 21 2011, 04:36 PM
TS0168257061
post Sep 21 2011, 04:34 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


Nikon Announces Two Mirrorless Cameras, J1 and V1


user posted image


user posted image




http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/News/Niko...s-J1-and-V1.htm



Agito666
post Sep 21 2011, 04:39 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
wa so fast new thread... but so slow yet for new DSLR news...but at least sure confirm future DSLR using is dual core EXPEED 3 liao drool.gif
smokey
post Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM

Infinity speed
*******
Senior Member
3,506 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Lumpur
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
Andy214
post Sep 21 2011, 05:30 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM)
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
*
Mine suffer from front focus issue, but yours seems different from your description in the page, which is kind of wierd, especially the one shot at very high shutter speed, seems there's obvious shake?
smokey
post Sep 21 2011, 05:53 PM

Infinity speed
*******
Senior Member
3,506 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Lumpur
im unsure whether i have front focusing issue too...
have to test more first...
if i go BTS, will they entertain me if i do not have strong proof?
zstan
post Sep 21 2011, 06:03 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



28mm at the widest end....aiyo..even my tx 10 is can shoot wider..what was nikon thinking... sweat.gif
Everdying
post Sep 21 2011, 06:41 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM)
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
*
nikon recommends VR to be OFF at anything over 1/500s, thom hogan says 1/250s.
and what lens are u using? the 18-105 kit lens? if so, try something else, like borrow a cheap 50mm f/1.8d and stop it down to f/2.8 and test the sharpness.
kucem
post Sep 21 2011, 06:42 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
48 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


is that safe if i put my camera when not using it in the box like this, with a few silica gel

user posted image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

This post has been edited by kucem: Sep 21 2011, 07:10 PM
razuryza
post Sep 21 2011, 06:59 PM

\('o')/~fewwwiitttt~\("0")/
*******
Senior Member
5,515 posts

Joined: Jan 2006


QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:53 PM)
im unsure whether i have front focusing issue too...
have to test more first...
if i go BTS, will they entertain me if i do not have strong proof?
*
go to nikon service centre, and let them test for u lah...
lwliam
post Sep 21 2011, 07:17 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(kucem @ Sep 21 2011, 06:42 PM)
is that safe if i put my camera when not using it in the box like this, with a few silica gel

user posted image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us
*
Nope..

At least get a plastic box from pasar malam/Jusco/Tesco/Carrefour. And you would need a Thirsty Hippo too. A 'few' silica gel won't work.

Here, this one is just a simple reference http://junsphoto.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/...urself-dry-box/

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 21 2011, 07:26 PM
kucem
post Sep 21 2011, 07:33 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
48 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


nice info bro..
four_add
post Sep 21 2011, 08:04 PM

Senior Lurker
*****
Senior Member
842 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: ~around da world~


QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM)
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
*
i got blur when focus recompose.. id direct snap, its sharp alright ..
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/...ecompose-method
Andy214
post Sep 21 2011, 08:06 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(four_add @ Sep 21 2011, 08:04 PM)
i got blur when focus recompose.. id direct snap, its sharp alright ..
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/...ecompose-method
*
Keep showing this... clearly the photographer doesn't understand the concept and proper way to do. It's not the technique problem, it's the photographer.
a.ihsan
post Sep 21 2011, 08:34 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
248 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Kelana Jaya


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 08:06 PM)
Keep showing this... clearly the photographer doesn't understand the concept and proper way to do. It's not the technique problem, it's the photographer.
*
well technically its both... a bad photographer uses poor techniques
four_add
post Sep 21 2011, 09:29 PM

Senior Lurker
*****
Senior Member
842 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: ~around da world~


QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Sep 21 2011, 08:34 PM)
well technically its both... a bad photographer uses poor techniques
*
from the comments, its because using a large aperture like f/1.8 and f/1.4? if smaller aperture like f/3.5 then it will remain sharp unsure.gif
celciuz
post Sep 21 2011, 09:31 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(four_add @ Sep 21 2011, 09:29 PM)
from the comments, its because using a large aperture like f/1.8 and f/1.4? if smaller aperture like f/3.5 then it will remain sharp  unsure.gif
*
Nope, I have taken many shots at f/1.4 with recompose technique. It isn't an issue, or rather even if there is differences it isn't big.


four_add
post Sep 21 2011, 09:33 PM

Senior Lurker
*****
Senior Member
842 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: ~around da world~


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 09:31 PM)
Nope, I have taken many shots at f/1.4 with recompose technique. It isn't an issue, or rather even if there is differences it isn't big.
*
oic.. biggrin.gif another article here mentioned like what you said, the difference isnt a big deal..
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/techn..._recompose.html
zstan
post Sep 21 2011, 09:33 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



If you recompose in the same plane, then it might work. However if your subject moves slightly front or back, your shot is screwed. Especially when shooting at f1.4.


Added on September 21, 2011, 9:35 pm
QUOTE(four_add @ Sep 21 2011, 09:33 PM)
oic..  biggrin.gif  another article here mentioned like what you said, the difference isnt a big deal..
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/techn..._recompose.html
*
It won't be a big deal if all you do is just upload your shots to facebook and share...nobody will notice the difference(nose is sharper than the eye)...

This post has been edited by zstan: Sep 21 2011, 09:35 PM
Calvin Pixels
post Sep 21 2011, 09:38 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 09:31 PM)
Nope, I have taken many shots at f/1.4 with recompose technique. It isn't an issue, or rather even if there is differences it isn't big.
*
Sifu do you use center AF point to focus then refocus?
cuz sad.gif I use other Af point to AF then refocus, image a bit blurry

This post has been edited by Calvin Pixels: Sep 21 2011, 09:40 PM
celciuz
post Sep 21 2011, 10:00 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2011, 09:33 PM)
If you recompose in the same plane, then it might work. However if your subject moves slightly front or back, your shot is screwed. Especially when shooting at f1.4.


Added on September 21, 2011, 9:35 pm
It won't be a big deal if all you do is just upload your shots to facebook and share...nobody will notice the difference(nose is sharper than the eye)...
*
It appears even sharper when you print them out. I've done 12R prints and they look fine.
Everdying
post Sep 21 2011, 10:11 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
if same lens and setting...recompose etc while remaining in focus will of cos depend on distance of subject.
85mm 1.4 with subject 1m away ur dof less than 1cm...go to say 5m away abd becomes around 20cm...enough allowance to recompose.


gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 10:17 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
user posted image

holy shit batman! laugh.gif
sakurakinomoto
post Sep 21 2011, 10:57 PM

This was a triumph.
******
Senior Member
1,164 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Somewhere



^ I lol'd seriously.

The small size of V1 makes that lens looks like it has it's own ability to capture image without a proper DSLR body.
vearn27
post Sep 21 2011, 11:09 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 09:38 PM)
Sifu do you use center AF point to focus then refocus?
cuz sad.gif I use other Af point to AF then refocus, image a bit blurry
*
AF-S and not AF-A or AF-C ?

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 10:57 PM)
^ I lol'd seriously.

The small size of V1 makes that lens looks like it has it's own ability to capture image without a proper DSLR body.
*
LOL ~ it's like holding a solid tumbler and snap snap laugh.gif

This post has been edited by vearn27: Sep 21 2011, 11:09 PM
zstan
post Sep 21 2011, 11:10 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



user posted image
vearn27
post Sep 21 2011, 11:12 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2011, 11:10 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
It will be crazy for a shop to keep stock of lens for each of the color for each of the length sweat.gif
Calvin Pixels
post Sep 21 2011, 11:18 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 21 2011, 11:09 PM)
AF-S and not AF-A or AF-C ?
LOL ~ it's like holding a solid tumbler and snap snap laugh.gif
*
yup Af-S sad.gif
i tend to get confuse which Af point to Af then recompose
some told me use center while others say use the nearest AF to subject then recompose

Now using nearest af point then recompose instead of center af point but unsure which type would be better to use

user posted image
Candid moment, Priceless by CalvinPixels, on Flickr
This should be ok? in terms of sharpness
g_pentium
post Sep 21 2011, 11:19 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
168 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
user posted image
C n C please.. smile.gif
sakurakinomoto
post Sep 21 2011, 11:22 PM

This was a triumph.
******
Senior Member
1,164 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Somewhere



^The flash is harsh.

If you can have the light fall softer on the subject, then it will look nicer. Also it will be good if you can do better composition/framing.
lwliam
post Sep 21 2011, 11:22 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 10:57 PM)
^ I lol'd seriously.

The small size of V1 makes that lens looks like it has it's own ability to capture image without a proper DSLR body.
*
That's what they said when the NEX first came out..
Calvin Pixels
post Sep 21 2011, 11:23 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


QUOTE(g_pentium @ Sep 21 2011, 11:19 PM)
user posted image
C n C please.. smile.gif
*
Nice fill light there, maybe you should ask her to pose ( she+DSLR aim at end of the bridge ) and take her pose more towards the right side to make the image more story like IMO.
sakurakinomoto
post Sep 21 2011, 11:28 PM

This was a triumph.
******
Senior Member
1,164 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Somewhere



QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2011, 11:22 PM)
That's what they said when the NEX first came out..
*
To be honest, no matter how negative people view for this V1/J1, I still think Nikon has something up their sleeve. I will look forward to this camera haha
gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 11:29 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Well its a new system so its bound to be critic...just wait and see till its release laugh.gif

Also im sure along the line the price will be more affordable (well i hope tongue.gif)
vearn27
post Sep 21 2011, 11:29 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 11:18 PM)
yup Af-S sad.gif
i tend to get confuse which Af point to Af then recompose
some told me use center while others say use the nearest AF to subject then recompose

Now using nearest af point then recompose instead of center af point but unsure which type would be better to use

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Candid moment, Priceless by CalvinPixels, on Flickr
This should be ok? in terms of sharpness
*
35mm f/1.8 @ wide open eh. Not sure about this lens... but I'll probably suggest you to step down bit.

QUOTE(g_pentium @ Sep 21 2011, 11:19 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

C n C please.. smile.gif
*
The fill flash too harsh. You can definitely notice the deep shadow behind the bag and the flash overblown the bag. Probably a bounce or diffused flash will be better smile.gif
lwliam
post Sep 21 2011, 11:30 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 11:28 PM)
To be honest, no matter how negative people view for this V1/J1, I still think Nikon has something up their sleeve. I will look forward to this camera haha
*
Yup, just have to wait till proper testing and reviews made till final decision can be made. Then of course, at the end of the day, with adapters, I'm sure not only Nikon lenses can be used, a myriad of other lenses too from Leicas, M42s, Minoltas, EF-mounts, M4/3..

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 21 2011, 11:31 PM
g_pentium
post Sep 21 2011, 11:32 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
168 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 11:22 PM)
^The flash is harsh.

If you can have the light fall softer on the subject, then it will look nicer. Also it will be good if you can do better composition/framing.
*
must use flash tripod and softbox for this.well this is a random shot though.thanks sakura


QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 11:23 PM)
Nice fill light there, maybe you should ask her to pose ( she+DSLR aim at end of the bridge ) and take her pose more towards the right side to make the image more story like IMO.
*
hehe.yeap will do it next tyme icon_rolleyes.gif
Calvin Pixels
post Sep 21 2011, 11:32 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


One thing might interest people its 60fps at fixed af and 10 at af-c,
nikon-aus wildlife say the crop factor good for telephoto extends the range

sad.gif they make my D5100 feel very small sad lah
angelic88
post Sep 21 2011, 11:33 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
325 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2011, 11:10 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
wow so colourful~~ purple look nicee~~~

Got purple NEX???? ~ opps, but really the sensor size for that price =.="

This post has been edited by angelic88: Sep 21 2011, 11:34 PM
gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 11:34 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
J1 pop up flash looks weird and awfully fragile sweat.gif

user posted image

and this gotta be my favourite! wub.gif

user posted image

user posted image

Awwwww sooooooo cuteeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! drool.gif
lwliam
post Sep 21 2011, 11:35 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 11:32 PM)
One thing might interest people its 60fps at fixed af and 10 at af-c,
nikon-aus wildlife say the crop factor good for telephoto extends the range

sad.gif they make my D5100 feel very small sad lah
*
But I highly doubt that Nat Geo will slap on a V1 onto their 600mm f/4 while standing at the back of the Jeep.
g_pentium
post Sep 21 2011, 11:35 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
168 posts

Joined: Jul 2008
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 21 2011, 11:29 PM)
35mm f/1.8 @ wide open eh. Not sure about this lens... but I'll probably suggest you to step down bit.
The fill flash too harsh. You can definitely notice the deep shadow behind the bag and the flash overblown the bag. Probably a bounce or diffused flash will be better smile.gif
*
indeed.was having fun with yongnuo wireless flash trigger brows.gif ,seriously need to opt softeners for this for a better dispersed of light on the subject.
sakurakinomoto
post Sep 21 2011, 11:36 PM

This was a triumph.
******
Senior Member
1,164 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Somewhere



Pink V1/J1 + 500mm f/4 = ????

laugh.gif

But seriously, with 1200mm f/11, + 2.7* crop factor, Good Lord it's a telescope.
zstan
post Sep 21 2011, 11:36 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



i pity the shop owners.. i wonder how are they going to stock the stuff with so many colours..

but i have to admit that the nikon mirrorless WILL sell.. it's a nikon after all..


Added on September 21, 2011, 11:37 pm
QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 11:18 PM)
yup Af-S sad.gif
i tend to get confuse which Af point to Af then recompose
some told me use center while others say use the nearest AF to subject then recompose

Now using nearest af point then recompose instead of center af point but unsure which type would be better to use


This should be ok? in terms of sharpness
*
wah the bright line bokeh is quite bad.... shocking.gif am i using the correct term? those green outlines...

This post has been edited by zstan: Sep 21 2011, 11:37 PM
vearn27
post Sep 21 2011, 11:38 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 21 2011, 11:34 PM)
J1 pop up flash looks weird and awfully fragile sweat.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


and this gotta be my favourite! wub.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Awwwww sooooooo cuteeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! drool.gif
*
I ROFLed on the lens cap laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
lwliam
post Sep 21 2011, 11:39 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 11:36 PM)
Pink V1/J1 + 500mm f/4 = ????

laugh.gif

But seriously, with 1200mm f/11, + 2.7* crop factor, Good Lord it's a telescope.
*
Aperture doesn't get factored into crop factor... only on teleconverters
gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 11:40 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 21 2011, 11:38 PM)
I ROFLed on the lens cap laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
*
Ooooohhh now that you mention it god i hate those type of lens cap! older nikkor used the same design vmad.gif
Calvin Pixels
post Sep 21 2011, 11:41 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 21 2011, 11:34 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Awwwww sooooooo cuteeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! drool.gif
*
Kai (digitalrev tv) wish is granted!! Pinkon J1 haha


Added on September 21, 2011, 11:43 pm
QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2011, 11:35 PM)
But I highly doubt that Nat Geo will slap on a V1 onto their 600mm f/4 while standing at the back of the Jeep.
*
Agreed smile.gif

This post has been edited by Calvin Pixels: Sep 21 2011, 11:43 PM
gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 11:43 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Sep 21 2011, 11:41 PM)
Kai (digitalrev tv) wish is granted!! Pinkon J1 haha
*
and he hates it too...the system. I think.
gnome
post Sep 21 2011, 11:51 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Owh about the F mount adapter, looks like AF-S lens only can autofocus (not surprisingly actually boooo tongue.gif)

but maybe down the line they will release a 2nd version that can autofocus with AF-D lens (if lucky!) since the mount clearly has a mark for the AF screws hmm.gif
elainor
post Sep 22 2011, 12:05 AM

Snap snap snap
******
Senior Member
1,095 posts

Joined: Apr 2010
From: Oggie Oggie Oggie!!!


wow cant wait to mount my 70-200mm on it tongue.gif
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 01:08 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Sep 21 2011, 08:34 PM)
well technically its both... a bad photographer uses poor techniques
*
I think you mean the photographer technique?
My meaning of the technique is as in the "concept".

Focus and Recompose is common, especially when those days without all these AF points or during film days. It's the photographer facing the problem and doesn't understand the concept and focus plane, etc.
Don't blame the technique.

QUOTE(four_add @ Sep 21 2011, 09:33 PM)
oic..  biggrin.gif  another article here mentioned like what you said, the difference isnt a big deal..
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/techn..._recompose.html
*
As I said above, it's important to understand how it works, the concept, focus plane, etc. Don't blame the technique.

This problem is more apparent on larger sensor with wide aperture as the DOF is more shallow, even MORE if you shoot close-up.
Even with compact or handphone camera, if there is close focus or macro setting, the DOF can be shallow and people will still face this problem.
Instead of blaming the technique, try to understand what happen and compensate for it.
Example:
Try shoot close-up on a miniature model at widest aperture, focus on the eye and then recompose, if you change your angle, it'll be more obvious; Or try hold the camera 45 degrees, do close-up focus and recompose with the camera now straight, you would notice the YOU have shifted away from the focus plane, you can compensate back by moving foward/backward a little accordingly.

Adding on, on wider angles, and if you stand far enough which gives you more DOF, you'll have less problem even using wide apertures like f/1.8.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 22 2011, 01:20 AM
vearn27
post Sep 22 2011, 01:09 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(elainor @ Sep 22 2011, 12:05 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


wow cant wait to mount my 70-200mm on it  tongue.gif
*
The flashgun !!! LOL !!! HAHAHAHAHA !!! Can really bounce ??? Sure bor ???
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 01:13 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 22 2011, 01:09 AM)
The flashgun !!! LOL !!! HAHAHAHAHA !!! Can really bounce ??? Sure bor ???
*
Can la, don't like that...

I notice in the video, one part when the photo is captured, the screen blacks out and got sort of "loading/saving" progress. Isn't it kind of slow compared with current competitors?
jchue73
post Sep 22 2011, 01:16 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 21 2011, 05:08 PM)
hi d7000 owners,

do any of u suffer from blur images taken with d7000?

it seems that a number of pictures that i took even with high shutter speed/VR on/flash appear not sharp...

a number of my images appear like the last picture in this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...38682038&page=6

my ex nikon d40 with the same lens appear sharper when i pixel peep at 100%...
May I ask what lens are you using?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 09:31 PM)
Nope, I have taken many shots at f/1.4 with recompose technique. It isn't an issue, or rather even if there is differences it isn't big.
Which focus do you use? AF-C or AF-S ?

Sometimes I use just the centre focus and recompose when camera is set to using AF-C, 51 point 3D tracking and under dynamic AF area mode,. The focus will lock on the subject after half-press focus lock and will automatically shift to remain focused on the subject after you recompose.

QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2011, 11:10 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Like candies. biggrin.gif Nikon should have named the cameras as 1Nikon instead.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2011, 11:39 PM)
Aperture doesn't get factored into crop factor... only on teleconverters
I think what sakurakinomoto should be referring to is putting the MF 1200-1700mm f/5.6-8.0 lens on the Nikon 1.

user posted image

But nevertheless, the 1200mm f/11 lens does exist in the Nikon world in the form of MF 360-1200mm f/11 zoom.

user posted image
gnome
post Sep 22 2011, 02:24 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


Good info about the motion still thingy and such laugh.gif
lwliam
post Sep 22 2011, 02:32 AM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 22 2011, 02:24 AM)


Good info about the motion still thingy and such laugh.gif
*
That is a huge lens... but the whole look works as a video cam.
razuryza
post Sep 22 2011, 04:21 AM

\('o')/~fewwwiitttt~\("0")/
*******
Senior Member
5,515 posts

Joined: Jan 2006


QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Sep 22 2011, 03:23 AM)
seems the Expeed 3 is very good at high ISO low noise

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NIKO...ONJ1GALLERY.HTM
*
what can i see.. even at ISO100, the image seem smears?
hidden830726
post Sep 22 2011, 05:23 AM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
the V1 or J1, lens if it says 10mm is equivalent to 27mm?

Same if 10-30 VR = x2.7?
piscesguy
post Sep 22 2011, 07:11 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
user posted image

how much is v1 white color body only? hmm.gif
celciuz
post Sep 22 2011, 07:43 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(razuryza @ Sep 22 2011, 04:21 AM)
what can i see.. even at ISO100, the image seem smears?
*
I'm thinking of kit lens sort of quality with the bundled lens. But anyways those images are night shots, should be better with day light shots. Just need to wait for more sample images.

Kinda excited to try one of those soon, hopefully it will be available for testing during KLPF in October.
idoblu
post Sep 22 2011, 10:07 AM

stars for sale
********
All Stars
11,308 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 22 2011, 07:11 AM)
user posted image

how much is v1 white color body only? hmm.gif
*
white one looks quite nice hor. it has this minimalist look about it.

Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 10:27 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 22 2011, 07:43 AM)
I'm thinking of kit lens sort of quality with the bundled lens. But anyways those images are night shots, should be better with day light shots. Just need to wait for more sample images.

Kinda excited to try one of those soon, hopefully it will be available for testing during KLPF in October.
*
Daylight most camera will do fine, even phone camera.

The ISO range for this "1" camera is 100-3200, expandable to 6400.
I watch some videos, I think the unique part is the shooting modes, tracking, focusing? But I'm not sure why the delay during/after capture, and so on, feels like compact cam performance? Hope its not so.
celciuz
post Sep 22 2011, 10:40 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 22 2011, 10:27 AM)
Daylight most camera will do fine, even phone camera.

The ISO range for this "1" camera is 100-3200, expandable to 6400.
I watch some videos, I think the unique part is the shooting modes, tracking, focusing? But I'm not sure why the delay during/after capture, and so on, feels like compact cam performance? Hope its not so.
*
Seems like I have different experience with you, not everyone camera and even DSLR does well in nicely lit places. It all boils down to the sensor.
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 11:00 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 22 2011, 10:40 AM)
Seems like I have different experience with you, not everyone camera and even DSLR does well in nicely lit places. It all boils down to the sensor.
*
Well, maybe I should put "generally", you may see many picture take outdoor in daylight. You may not be able to tell if it's DSLR (with "normal" lens), point and shoot (high end or low end), Handphone camera, etc easily. Sometimes, you can even see nice quality photos taken with point and shoot, while you can also see poor quality pictures taken with DSLR.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 22 2011, 11:00 AM
celciuz
post Sep 22 2011, 11:19 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 22 2011, 11:00 AM)
Well, maybe I should put "generally", you may see many picture take outdoor in daylight. You may not be able to tell if it's DSLR (with "normal" lens), point and shoot (high end or low end), Handphone camera, etc easily. Sometimes, you can even see nice quality photos taken with point and shoot, while you can also see poor quality pictures taken with DSLR.
*
Provided you don't do 1:1 pixel mapping to view. If you view it at 720p or something then of course. But when you blow it up to 1:1 pixel mapping, then its not.

Not to mention, comparing D90 and D700 as base ISO for taking outdoors, there is differences already.
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 11:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 22 2011, 11:19 AM)
Provided you don't do 1:1 pixel mapping to view. If you view it at 720p or something then of course. But when you blow it up to 1:1 pixel mapping, then its not.

Not to mention, comparing D90 and D700 as base ISO for taking outdoors, there is differences already.
*
But how many people do 1:1 pixel mapping? When you post up to internet, or even print out; For daylight photo, you can hardly tell the difference, unless you know the camera very well. In broad daylight outdoor, even handphone camera can do wonders.
celciuz
post Sep 22 2011, 11:31 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 22 2011, 11:23 AM)
But how many people do 1:1 pixel mapping? When you post up to internet, or even print out; For daylight photo, you can hardly tell the difference, unless you know the camera very well. In broad daylight outdoor, even handphone camera can do wonders.
*
Then in that case no need buy DSLR, you should just use handphone wink.gif
EvanKeat
post Sep 22 2011, 11:34 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
296 posts

Joined: Sep 2011
well can't compare V1, J1 with existing nikon DSLR model. The objective of their mirrorless system is allow user alternative to jump from compact to another level higher but not a DSLR.

So some comprised are made on IQ, ISO, and etc. Think as an alternative and fun playing camera!

Anyway what the price in Malaysia? The variety of colours are cute! wub.gif
vearn27
post Sep 22 2011, 11:38 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 22 2011, 11:31 AM)
Then in that case no need buy DSLR, you should just use handphone  wink.gif
*
celciuz 1 - 0 Andy214

Hell yeah ~ way to go !!! C'mon c'mon !!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Note: This is no flaming, I believe both celciuz and Andy214 see it the same. Let see what else differences between different individual perspective view could be biggrin.gif
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 11:38 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 22 2011, 11:31 AM)
Then in that case no need buy DSLR, you should just use handphone  wink.gif
*
Haha, cool bro, don't so worked up.

Just saying that in day light outdoor, with enough light, most camera will do fine, "generally". Not saying DSLR is not good or anything.
So, for J1 or V1, if outdoor daytime, nothing much to compare, plus, most of the sample you see, are in smaller resolution; But in lowlight or dark area, even with small resolution, we can clearly tell the difference and see how well the camera will perform.


Added on September 22, 2011, 11:45 am
QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 22 2011, 11:34 AM)
well can't compare V1, J1 with existing nikon DSLR model. The objective of their mirrorless system is allow user alternative to jump from compact to another level higher but not a DSLR.

So some comprised are made on IQ, ISO, and etc. Think as an alternative and fun playing camera!

Anyway what the price in Malaysia? The variety of colours are cute! wub.gif
*
That's not the problem. There're much more capable mirrorless already on the market, Nikon is already slow by years, and perhaps they wanna do like Nintendo DS/Wii? A different approach?

This is kind of risky, especially the pricing and not knowing what Canon might come out later. If it fails to meet the demands, what will Nikon do? Will they continue? If not, what happen to those who invested into this system?

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 22 2011, 11:38 AM)
celciuz 1 - 0 Andy214

Hell yeah ~ way to go !!! C'mon c'mon !!!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Note: This is no flaming, I believe both celciuz and Andy214 see it the same. Let see what else differences between different individual perspective view could be biggrin.gif
*
Nah, not trying to prove wrong or right, just saying, or DSLR is no good, or handphone is better, maybe for DSLR user to hear something like handphone can take good picture, or cannot differentiate between DSLR and handphone, can be "uncomfortable" and thus trigger the emotion. But, honestly speaking, maybe for "pro" they can tell lah, I'm no pro, and most people cannot even tell the difference. Let's be honest, show a bunch of pictures mixture of DSLR, point and shoot (low end to high end) and handphone camera, let people check and review it, they won't be able to tell the difference, and sometimes you'd be surprise they like the quality from certain pictures which maybe from point and shoot or handphone or DSLR.

In lowlight, it'll be different story and the output will be very obvious.

I think, this is a good example (maybe the pros may think otherwise):
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...38229269&type=1


This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 22 2011, 12:00 PM
sniper on the roof
post Sep 22 2011, 11:55 AM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
USD900 for the V1 is waaaaaay too much.
0300078
post Sep 22 2011, 11:56 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,447 posts

Joined: Mar 2006


only comment for the upcoming Nikon models...... cute design but PRICE NO CUTE
jchue73
post Sep 22 2011, 11:56 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(EvanKeat @ Sep 22 2011, 11:34 AM)
well can't compare V1, J1 with existing nikon DSLR model. The objective of their mirrorless system is allow user alternative to jump from compact to another level higher but not a DSLR.

So some comprised are made on IQ, ISO, and etc. Think as an alternative and fun playing camera!

Anyway what the price in Malaysia? The variety of colours are cute! wub.gif
I agree on the part of people upgrading from compact to another level but not a DSLR. But paying so much for it does not make sense. rclxub.gif You have cheaper PnS alternatives in the market that can give you COMPACT + features close to a DSLR system. Of course noise wise, the bigger DSLR sensor still wins any which way you see it. Yes, it's nice that we can use existing FX or DX lenses but looking at the size of the mounted lens, it does not make sense that the person intended to buy the V1/J1 cameras for compactness. rolleyes.gif Lens + body completes the equation. Good body with junk lens will get you junk.

Looking at some of the samples, it's not too bad. Did not give the wow factor though. Obvious one is edge smearing which should not happen on a super crop sensor. Perhaps the NEF should yield better.

From the looks of it, the new Nikon lineups are just to appease the PnS crowd. The Nikon folks think that they can jump on the bandwagon and attract the younger crowd with gaudy colors and simple style. Most people who appreciate picture quality will pass on these crayola cameras and stick with more substantial stuff especially with the DSLR market so competitive now.
sniper on the roof
post Sep 22 2011, 11:57 AM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
and how come the spec list got PASM mode but it's not in the wheel?
jchue73
post Sep 22 2011, 12:12 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Sep 22 2011, 11:57 AM)
and how come the spec list got PASM mode but it's not in the wheel?
Where did it state?

I read that you can still access it the conventional PASM in the menu but the knob is replaced by four positions which represent different applications of high speed stills and movie recording. The 'Motion Snapshot' mode combines a slow-motion movie with a simultaneously-recorded still image, while the 'Smart Photo Selector' mode takes 20 full-resolution images from a single shutter-button press (including some captured before the button is fully depressed), then analyses them,saving what it judges to be the best five (even recommending the very best of the bunch). There's just a single position to cover all aspects of conventional stills shooting, plus one more for movies.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/328171341...rst-impressions
ieR
post Sep 22 2011, 12:16 PM

~Cursed Member~
Group Icon
Elite
3,928 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
if you KNOW how japanese thinks... when they build Alpha A55/Nex, thinking SMALL is good... indeed, it hit the market like storm,(after a long talk with sony insider bout the sony direction) it seem Nikon is also aiming this market, because, japanese, 80% of the camera user dont care bout spec! they care for look, that why Nex has trouble penetrating panasonic market in japan. nikon is heading this direction... but with wrong sensor =.=

so this nikon 1 will be hot cakes in japan, and maybe korea (but samsung is damn strong in korea), taiwan and hk.... but the rest of the world,.. they will cry sad.gif

a friend played with it(ehem)... it IS Fast with the new Expeed... really responsive vs nex!
Andy214
post Sep 22 2011, 12:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 22 2011, 12:12 PM)
Where did it state?

I read that you can still access it the conventional PASM in the menu but the knob is replaced by four positions which represent different applications of high speed stills and movie recording. The 'Motion Snapshot' mode combines a slow-motion movie with a simultaneously-recorded still image, while the 'Smart Photo Selector' mode takes 20 full-resolution images from a single shutter-button press (including some captured before the button is fully depressed), then analyses them,saving what it judges to be the best five (even recommending the very best of the bunch). There's just a single position to cover all aspects of conventional stills shooting, plus one more for movies.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/328171341...rst-impressions
*
How does the shutter lifespan for mirrorless counted or works?
Does the 60fps or the "1200fps" thing actually affect shutter counts?
blackevo
post Sep 22 2011, 12:25 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
16 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


anyone heard about D800?
maggi
post Sep 22 2011, 12:52 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,653 posts

Joined: Dec 2008
From: GUAM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1109/11092120nikonlaunch.asp

this one nice?
sniper on the roof
post Sep 22 2011, 01:15 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 22 2011, 12:12 PM)
Where did it state?

I read that you can still access it the conventional PASM in the menu but the knob is replaced by four positions which represent different applications of high speed stills and movie recording. The 'Motion Snapshot' mode combines a slow-motion movie with a simultaneously-recorded still image, while the 'Smart Photo Selector' mode takes 20 full-resolution images from a single shutter-button press (including some captured before the button is fully depressed), then analyses them,saving what it judges to be the best five (even recommending the very best of the bunch). There's just a single position to cover all aspects of conventional stills shooting, plus one more for movies.

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/328171341...rst-impressions
*
That's the thing.. the wheel is so empty but yet they leave out PASM from it and put it in the menu.
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 02:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


i think the only way to know whether the nikon 1 are a successful system or not is to see the sales of these cameras.

well, it all boils down to sales right? no matter how good a particular camera is, if it's not selling, it's a bad camera. on the other hand, no matter how bad a camera is, if it's selling (like hot cakes) then it is a fantastic camera.

someone on nikonrumors stated that nikon is trying to create a inikon product. ipod, ipad etc nonsense. i hope he is wrong. i hate how apple are catering to the mass (i still can't forgive them for taking out the PCM slot from the macbook pro 15 inches model) and put a SD card slot.
vez
post Sep 22 2011, 02:45 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,622 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


dear all sifus, my D7000 just bought recently the built in flash has a yellow tint, is this normal?
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 02:51 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


QUOTE(vez @ Sep 22 2011, 02:45 PM)
dear all sifus, my D7000 just bought recently the built in flash has a yellow tint, is this normal?
*
zomg!




it's normal tongue.gif
celciuz
post Sep 22 2011, 02:54 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
D300/D700 ones have green tint instead >_<
vez
post Sep 22 2011, 02:58 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,622 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


oh, thanks smile.gif

because this is my first dslr, uses friend's one before but did not notice

This post has been edited by vez: Sep 22 2011, 03:01 PM
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 03:00 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


you know what, i feel like going to nikon PKNS and scream and the japanese!
TS0168257061
post Sep 22 2011, 04:15 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


in Malaysia we got 1Malaysia,

now we got Nikon 1System whistling.gif

inb4 1System became official camera system whistling.gif
sniper on the roof
post Sep 22 2011, 04:49 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
Check out this size comparison between the current mirrorless vs Nikon1's

http://www.bmupix.com/display/ShowImage?im...N=1316613330222

Granted that the GF3 is with the new ahbeng lens.
0300078
post Sep 22 2011, 04:54 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,447 posts

Joined: Mar 2006


how come smallest sensor but size cannot make it smaller?
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 04:56 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


i don't see the benefit of a smaller sensor anymore lol
i thought it's supposed to be smaller sensor = smaller camera system. i guess i am wrong
sniper on the roof
post Sep 22 2011, 05:05 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
23,414 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Taipei
In a business perspective and since these are interchangeable lens.. I'm guessing that Nikon's thinking..

- Smartphone eventually telan the compact market
= ILC to replace compacts eventually
= Average selling price will fall when market saturated
= More average joe user who don't know/ don't care joins the target market.
= Since they're introducing a system, can't change systems every other day else ppl bengang
= small sensor
= most cost effective since smaller/potentially smaller everything including sensor, lens, material when profits fall
= 1Nikon.

What do you think?

TS0168257061
post Sep 22 2011, 05:10 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


my thought,

nikon 1sytem target casual shooter,
target newbie.

u ask newbie , heck even some amateur they don't even know what is crop factor sweat.gif

you explained to them , they still blur blur wan.

so i assume its targeting casual people who wants simply take picture only.
Agito666
post Sep 22 2011, 05:15 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:10 PM)
my thought,

nikon 1sytem target casual shooter,
target newbie.

u ask newbie , heck even some amateur they don't even know what is crop factor sweat.gif

you explained to them , they still blur blur wan.

so i assume its targeting casual people who wants simply take picture only.
*
with the name of "nikon" as well..and a "slo-mo" mode as well...

duno only the slo-mo attract me XD
Everdying
post Sep 22 2011, 05:20 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
one reason for getting the V1 / J1 is so can mount current AF-S lenses and maintain full AF in a smaller body.
and then 70-200 will become 189-540 f/2.8 drool.gif

no need to buy any of the V1 / J1 lenses except for the 10mm 2.8 tongue.gif
iXora.ix
post Sep 22 2011, 05:25 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 22 2011, 05:20 PM)

no need to buy any of the V1 / J1 lenses except for the 10mm 2.8 tongue.gif
*
that lens can fit on dslr meh? hmm.gif
Everdying
post Sep 22 2011, 05:26 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 22 2011, 05:25 PM)
that lens can fit on dslr meh? hmm.gif
*
doh.gif
did i mention anywhere its for dslr?
for the V1 / J1 la.
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 05:41 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


if i ever get this system, it's only the 10mm lens that i am getting...
lwliam
post Sep 22 2011, 06:08 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:10 PM)
my thought,

nikon 1sytem target casual shooter,
target newbie.

u ask newbie , heck even some amateur they don't even know what is crop factor sweat.gif

you explained to them , they still blur blur wan.

so i assume its targeting casual people who wants simply take picture only.
*
If it's only casual shooting they are targeting, might as well spend the RnD fund in their coolpix division and make a small sized, pocketable prosumer cam? Nikon's P-series are actually a very capable line they could improve on.
TS0168257061
post Sep 22 2011, 08:02 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:15 PM)
with the name of "nikon" as well..and a "slo-mo" mode as well...

duno only the slo-mo attract me XD
*
Slow motion c*m icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
one reason for getting the V1 / J1 is so can mount current AF-S lenses and maintain full AF in a smaller body.
and then 70-200 will become 189-540 f/2.8  drool.gif

no need to buy any of the V1 / J1 lenses except for the 10mm 2.8 tongue.gif
*
even though can get f/2.8 amount of light, but unable to get exact dof of f/2.8, my rough guess will be thicker than f/5.6 rclxub.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:08 PM)
If it's only casual shooting they are targeting, might as well spend the RnD fund in their coolpix division and make a small sized, pocketable prosumer cam? Nikon's P-series are actually a very capable line they could improve on.
*
no, newbie think that OH MY CAMERA CAN CHANGE LENS in "FUTURE"
so they directly attracted by it laugh.gif
hidden830726
post Sep 22 2011, 08:08 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
Quick Q, if order photography books from Amazon, do we get tax?
tplus1
post Sep 22 2011, 08:46 PM


******
Senior Member
1,148 posts

Joined: Jan 2009
it is wise to buy fisheye lens 8mm while it the other hand hoping for its wide angle ability?

it is easy to crop it and have nice pics of wide angle right?
TS0168257061
post Sep 22 2011, 08:54 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(tplus1 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:46 PM)
it is wise to buy fisheye lens 8mm while it the other hand hoping for its wide angle ability?

it is easy to crop it and have nice pics of wide angle right?
*
fish eye ? how crop if pic HEAVILY distorted ?
I know u can use software correct it, but it wont work well.

u want wide angle ability, be a real man, buy real UWA lens.

after all fish eye is not regarded UWA lens as fish eye lens is different with normal lens.
ifer
post Sep 22 2011, 08:59 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:08 PM)
Quick Q, if order photography books from Amazon, do we get tax?
*
i have been buying books from them for 10 years. so far so good.
jchue73
post Sep 23 2011, 12:26 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:10 PM)
my thought,

nikon 1sytem target casual shooter,
target newbie.

u ask newbie , heck even some amateur they don't even know what is crop factor sweat.gif

you explained to them , they still blur blur wan.

so i assume its targeting casual people who wants simply take picture only.
Smart casual users should not be trapped into buying something very expensive when you can get it as good and cheaper elsewhere with PnS nowadays.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 22 2011, 05:20 PM)
one reason for getting the V1 / J1 is so can mount current AF-S lenses and maintain full AF in a smaller body.
and then 70-200 will become 189-540 f/2.8  drool.gif
Yup, that's the only thing I find useful. But people must remember that newbies and casual shooters don't usually happen to own a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens. whistling.gif It's only serious enthusiast like us would be gila enough to want that body just for the purpose of the crop factor.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:08 PM)
If it's only casual shooting they are targeting, might as well spend the RnD fund in their coolpix division and make a small sized, pocketable prosumer cam? Nikon's P-series are actually a very capable line they could improve on.
Precisely. They could do a lot to improve their Coolpix line. Currently, they are playing catch up with the other players. I use to remember Nikon was famous for their Coolpix 800, 950, 990 and 995. They set a benchmark while others just follow.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:54 PM)
fish eye ? how crop  if pic HEAVILY distorted ?
I know u can use software correct it, but it wont work well.

u want wide angle ability, be a real man, buy real UWA lens.

after all fish eye is not regarded UWA lens as fish eye lens is different with normal lens.
+1
ieR
post Sep 23 2011, 12:59 AM

~Cursed Member~
Group Icon
Elite
3,928 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 23 2011, 12:26 AM)
Yup, that's the only thing I find useful. But people must remember that newbies and casual shooters don't usually happen to own a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens.  whistling.gif It's only serious enthusiast like us would be gila enough to want that body just for the purpose of the crop factor.
*
why not just shoot with ur current DSLR and crop it urself 2.7x in photoshop later... same kan? =_______________________=
Calvin Seak
post Sep 23 2011, 01:59 AM

Hiring, TTDI, KL only
*******
Senior Member
2,447 posts

Joined: Oct 2008

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 22 2011, 08:08 PM)
Quick Q, if order photography books from Amazon, do we get tax?
*
Hey bro! I once bought 7 books from them directly and it didn't get taxed, try importing it below rm500 to play safe

piscesguy
post Sep 23 2011, 07:37 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
Looking at the prices in UK and US, the V1 doesn't seem to be a value for $ camera.. sad.gif doh.gif

Maybe the only impressive thing is the fast focus in video mode. hmm.gif


celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 07:42 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 23 2011, 12:59 AM)
why not just shoot with ur current DSLR and crop it urself 2.7x in photoshop later... same kan? =_______________________=
*
I'm thinking it will be good for macro with such crop factor biggrin.gif but still need to see how well does the tiny sensor performs.

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 23 2011, 07:37 AM)
Looking at the prices in UK and US, the V1 doesn't seem to be a value for $ camera.. sad.gif  doh.gif

Maybe the only impressive thing is the fast focus in video mode. hmm.gif
*
10fps seems interesting too, but wonder what's the buffer like before you hit the wall.
zstan
post Sep 23 2011, 08:40 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 23 2011, 07:42 AM)
I'm thinking it will be good for macro with such crop factor biggrin.gif but still need to see how well does the tiny sensor performs.
10fps seems interesting too, but wonder what's the buffer like before you hit the wall.
*
Well depends on what macro you are shooting.

If you are using the sp90 on a crop body you'd have to stand about one meter away from the subject..with the j1.. How far do you need to stand? Could you even see that tiny spider from the place you are standing?

Not a macro photographer though. Maybe macro enthusiasts can counter my points. biggrin.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 23 2011, 09:17 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 23 2011, 12:59 AM)
why not just shoot with ur current DSLR and crop it urself 2.7x in photoshop later... same kan? =_______________________=
*
let say from full frame, 10mp, u only get 100mm,

from the 2.7x , u get 10mp of 270mm,

where got same ? smile.gif

after u cropped the 10mp full frame into equivalent of 2.7x,
it is not 10mp anymore.
lwliam
post Sep 23 2011, 09:18 AM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 23 2011, 08:40 AM)
Well depends on what macro you are shooting.

If you are using the sp90 on a crop body you'd have to stand about one meter away from the subject..with the j1.. How far do you need to stand? Could you even see that tiny spider from the place you are standing?

Not a macro photographer though. Maybe macro enthusiasts can counter my points. biggrin.gif
*
If the subject is to be 1:1, the distance of the subject to the sensor will always be the same regardless of what sensor size used. For a lens to function, the flange distance has to be the same on any system. This is where the adapter for a non-native lens comes into play - to provide enough flange distance for the lens to function at MFD all the way to infinity. So, will not effect on 'How far do you need to stand? Could you even see that tiny spider from the place you are standing?'. In fact, at 1:1, the subject, in this case, the spider will be able to fill the frame much easier than with a larger sensor.


Added on September 23, 2011, 9:20 am
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 23 2011, 09:17 AM)
let say from full frame, 10mp, u only get 100mm,

from the 2.7x , u get 10mp of 270mm,

where got same ? smile.gif

after u cropped the 10mp full frame into equivalent of 2.7x,
it is not 10mp anymore.
*
The standard even for APS-C sensors out there is above 16MPs these days. And full frames are hovering in the 24MPs range. There is PLENTY of leeway for cropping on a full sized sensor compared to a 2.7x crop.

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 23 2011, 09:21 AM
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 09:35 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 23 2011, 08:40 AM)
Well depends on what macro you are shooting.

If you are using the sp90 on a crop body you'd have to stand about one meter away from the subject..with the j1.. How far do you need to stand? Could you even see that tiny spider from the place you are standing?

Not a macro photographer though. Maybe macro enthusiasts can counter my points. biggrin.gif
*
You can still shoot at 1:1 since your sensor is so small, the spider would actually fill up the frame. Compared to shooting on FF which the spider would be much smaller. Next question is, do you understand what does 1:1 magnification means? If you do, then you won't be asking the earlier question.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 23 2011, 09:18 AM)
If the subject is to be 1:1, the distance of the subject to the sensor will always be the same regardless of what sensor size used. For a lens to function, the flange distance has to be the same on any system. This is where the adapter for a non-native lens comes into play - to provide enough flange distance for the lens to function at MFD all the way to infinity. So, will not effect on 'How far do you need to stand? Could you even see that tiny spider from the place you are standing?'. In fact, at 1:1, the subject, in this case, the spider will be able to fill the frame much easier than with a larger sensor.


Added on September 23, 2011, 9:20 am

The standard even for APS-C sensors out there is above 16MPs these days. And full frames are hovering in the 24MPs range. There is PLENTY of leeway for cropping on a full sized sensor compared to a 2.7x crop.
*
Not true for Nikon systems. 24MP is still the D3x, how many here owns one? Even for the new Nikon FF sensor, I don't think it would be on the 24MP range either, most likely 16MP. Nikon systems don't go for MP like the rest.
Andy214
post Sep 23 2011, 10:12 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 23 2011, 07:37 AM)
Looking at the prices in UK and US, the V1 doesn't seem to be a value for $ camera.. sad.gif  doh.gif

Maybe the only impressive thing is the fast focus in video mode. hmm.gif
*
Not sure if it's impressive or not, because it's been done by Sony since long ago with their SLT and also other mirrorless.

Maybe this is even more faster or accurate, but by how much? and is it noticeable difference?
Everdying
post Sep 23 2011, 10:32 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 23 2011, 12:59 AM)
why not just shoot with ur current DSLR and crop it urself 2.7x in photoshop later... same kan? =_______________________=
*
well, even from 200mm to 300mm doesnt sound like much difference.
but i've already tried enlarging a 200mm image to 300mm equivalent, and it still loses out to a proper 300mm image...and thats only 1.5x.
so yea, 2.7x enlarge will completely lose out.

Agito666
post Sep 23 2011, 10:32 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
1 nikon
> 73 AF point system?
> 1200fps low res motion snapshot
> magnesium alloy chassis

maybe when all little "wow" effects combined, it become a better chance in fighting in EVIL market? hmm.gif
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 10:33 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
With such pixel density, you need a good lens to resolve the details for sure o_O
Andy214
post Sep 23 2011, 10:46 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 23 2011, 10:32 AM)
1 nikon
> 73 AF point system?
> 1200fps low res motion snapshot
> magnesium alloy chassis

maybe when all little "wow" effects combined, it become a better chance in fighting in EVIL market?  hmm.gif
*
"60fps" and "1200fps", I wonder how it affects/counts for shutter count. How does it works for these mirrorless?
It did mentioned "eletronically", I suppose it's not related to shutter count as in 1fps = 1 shutter?
Agito666
post Sep 23 2011, 10:47 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
OT: today saw this link in FB... i like slice of life shots.

user posted image

user posted image

http://whitemanekicat.p1.bindsite.jp/nitin...orekouniti.html

http://whitemanekicat.p1.bindsite.jp/hananoyouni.html

the photos is all about a grandma and her cat's daily life..
*very touching for me. cry.gif


Added on September 23, 2011, 10:48 am
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 23 2011, 10:46 AM)
"60fps" and "1200fps", I wonder how it affects/counts for shutter count. How does it works for these mirrorless?
It did mentioned "eletronically", I suppose it's not related to shutter count as in 1fps = 1 shutter?
*
i dont know as well...
but i think nikon already consider this before make this feature out...so no need worry shutter count spoil later on use too much slo-mo tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 23 2011, 10:48 AM
Everdying
post Sep 23 2011, 10:52 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
movie mode doesnt affect shutter count la.
else DSLRs will have to have their shutters replaced every few months tongue.gif
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 10:56 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 23 2011, 10:46 AM)
"60fps" and "1200fps", I wonder how it affects/counts for shutter count. How does it works for these mirrorless?
It did mentioned "eletronically", I suppose it's not related to shutter count as in 1fps = 1 shutter?
*
For 60fps and 1200fps, it should be under LV mode. No actual shutter actuation I guess.
Andy214
post Sep 23 2011, 11:08 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 23 2011, 10:52 AM)
movie mode doesnt affect shutter count la.
else DSLRs will have to have their shutters replaced every few months tongue.gif
*
Not sure it's under movie mode; I remember it says capturing stills at 60fps and you can merge them for movement or something, jpeg movie.
I suppose it doesn't affect shutter count, just curious

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 23 2011, 10:56 AM)
For 60fps and 1200fps, it should be under LV mode. No actual shutter actuation I guess.
*
I suppose so too, but the way they put the "60fps" and "1200fps" is kind of confusing as it doesn't put like video mode (e.g. 720p @ 60fps; instead it talk about capturing every moment as if capturing photo; I guess some sort of marketing tactic or something to make people "WOW" when others are doing 12fps. You know, people who see will say, this camera can do 60fps... although, the actual should be 10fps.
nivlanauk
post Sep 23 2011, 11:18 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Mar 2011
Looking for Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED AF-S VR II and not many shops carry this lens, siapa ada contact? rolleyes.gif
Everdying
post Sep 23 2011, 11:20 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
the 1200fps is definitely movie mode.
the 60fps i see conflicting reports...1 say its 60fps at full resolution...another say its 60fps of 1080i stills.
if its the latter, then again its in movie mode and it just breaks up the movie into individual frames.
TS0168257061
post Sep 23 2011, 12:08 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 23 2011, 11:18 AM)
Looking for Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED AF-S VR II and not many shops carry this lens, siapa ada contact? rolleyes.gif
*
Shashinki boleh. Request to order. cool2.gif
Syncing
post Sep 23 2011, 02:29 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
150 posts

Joined: Sep 2008
Hi, Im a beginner in photography and I just got my D5100 a month ago. I'm looking to buy a zoom lens as my 2nd lens probably a few months from now, depending on my financial situation tongue.gif
So I have found two zoom lens that fit my budget which is less than 1k.

1) Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro Tele Zoom Lens
2) Nikon 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G AF-S DX NIKKOR ED VR Zoom Lens

So far the only major difference is the Macro ability on the Sigma and VR on the Nikon. Beside Nikon having the focal range from 55-70. Any ideas?
Andy214
post Sep 23 2011, 02:41 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Syncing @ Sep 23 2011, 02:29 PM)
Hi, Im a beginner in photography and I just got my D5100 a month ago. I'm looking to buy a zoom lens as my 2nd lens probably a few months from now, depending on my financial situation  tongue.gif
So I have found two zoom lens that fit my budget which is less than 1k.

1) Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro Tele Zoom Lens
2) Nikon 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G AF-S DX NIKKOR ED VR Zoom Lens

So far the only major difference is the Macro ability on the Sigma and VR on the Nikon. Beside Nikon having the focal range from 55-70. Any ideas?
*
100% to go for Nikon.

The Sigma "looks" like a good deal from it's definition, but you should check out the reviews as well as how it looks, see YouTube for examples. Don't be tempted by the name and macro, and it doesn't even come with "OS" (Optical Stabilization).


lwliam
post Sep 23 2011, 02:47 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


Usually the 'macro' term in tele lenses are just marketing words. They are about 1:4 magnification only. Not a macro per se.

If it's only these 2 you have your eyes on, I suggest you go for the nikkor. But I'm not sure if I heard of 55-300, I'd heard of 55-200, 75-300 or 70-300 though. What do I know right? I'm not a nikon user.
Everdying
post Sep 23 2011, 02:56 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Syncing @ Sep 23 2011, 02:29 PM)
Hi, Im a beginner in photography and I just got my D5100 a month ago. I'm looking to buy a zoom lens as my 2nd lens probably a few months from now, depending on my financial situation  tongue.gif
So I have found two zoom lens that fit my budget which is less than 1k.

1) Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro Tele Zoom Lens
2) Nikon 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G AF-S DX NIKKOR ED VR Zoom Lens

So far the only major difference is the Macro ability on the Sigma and VR on the Nikon. Beside Nikon having the focal range from 55-70. Any ideas?
*
iinm the nikon 55-300 is now around rm950.
get that tongue.gif
Andy214
post Sep 23 2011, 02:57 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 23 2011, 02:47 PM)
Usually the 'macro' term in tele lenses are just marketing words. They are about 1:4 magnification only. Not a macro per se.

If it's only these 2 you have your eyes on, I suggest you go for the nikkor. But I'm not sure if I heard of 55-300, I'd heard of 55-200, 75-300 or 70-300 though. What do I know right? I'm not a nikon user.
*
Yea, some up to 1:3 or 1:2, but you will need to zoom to max and at minimum focusing distance; It's good for normal macro, like foods, miniatures, toys, rings, etc.

The 55-300mm is pretty new, metal mount and better image quality, good MTF chart. The 55-200 seems soft at 200mm, while this 55-300mm does better. It's lightweight, easily shakes like crazy when zoom to max, until the VR kicks in, and the focusing is slow compared to 70-300mm Nikkor. Reviews also mentioned that 70-300mm, it's soft at 300mm, but the 55-300mm does better at 300mm.
Everdying
post Sep 23 2011, 03:07 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
70-300VR is 'softer' at 300mm, but center sharpness is still pretty decent...so even tho its a FX lens...it goes better on DX...kinda like the 70-200VR1.

thisiskj
post Sep 23 2011, 04:44 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
279 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 23 2011, 11:18 AM)
Looking for Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED AF-S VR II and not many shops carry this lens, siapa ada contact? rolleyes.gif
*
go to any dealers esp the official ones that's listed in nikon.com.my to ask them to order the 300mm.. they dont stock em cause it's not a common lens that everybody would want to buy..
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 05:45 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 23 2011, 11:08 AM)
Not sure it's under movie mode; I remember it says capturing stills at 60fps and you can merge them for movement or something, jpeg movie.
I suppose it doesn't affect shutter count, just curious
I suppose so too, but the way they put the "60fps" and "1200fps" is kind of confusing as it doesn't put like video mode (e.g. 720p @ 60fps; instead it talk about capturing every moment as if capturing photo; I guess some sort of marketing tactic or something to make people "WOW" when others are doing 12fps. You know, people who see will say, this camera can do 60fps... although, the actual should be 10fps.
*
Well, best to wait for a thorough review then we will know smile.gif But from their spec, it appears it takes 10MP at 60fps.

QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 23 2011, 11:18 AM)
Looking for Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED AF-S VR II and not many shops carry this lens, siapa ada contact? rolleyes.gif
*
As long you have the money, any of the resellers can order from Nikon Msia, but I think if you want to look for a shop that has ready stock it is unlikely.

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 23 2011, 02:47 PM)
Usually the 'macro' term in tele lenses are just marketing words. They are about 1:4 magnification only. Not a macro per se.

If it's only these 2 you have your eyes on, I suggest you go for the nikkor. But I'm not sure if I heard of 55-300, I'd heard of 55-200, 75-300 or 70-300 though. What do I know right? I'm not a nikon user.
*
It is one of the newer Nikkor DX lens fyi. Well, sometimes if you aren't sure about it, best to Google first. Not too much of effort, when I comment on something I am not sure I make effort to check first.
lwliam
post Sep 23 2011, 06:52 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 23 2011, 05:45 PM)
It is one of the newer Nikkor DX lens fyi. Well, sometimes if you aren't sure about it, best to Google first. Not too much of effort, when I comment on something I am not sure I make effort to check first.
*
Actually, you missed my point.. The main subject was to Syncing regarding the macro function. Not that I care what lenses are from what range to what range. Hence the statement saying that I "wasn't sure". And now, I do know since Andy214 mentioned about it wink.gif
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 08:52 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 23 2011, 06:52 PM)
Actually, you missed my point.. The main subject was to Syncing regarding the macro function. Not that I care what lenses are from what range to what range. Hence the statement saying that I "wasn't sure". And now, I do know since Andy214 mentioned about it wink.gif
*
You should rephrase it then. I tried reading again and again, but what I understand based on your statement was 'you are not sure if 55-300 lens existed or not'.
noien
post Sep 23 2011, 09:30 PM

Getting Started
*******
Senior Member
3,184 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
for budget around 2k to 2.5k
wat is the best of value for a beginner?
is body with af motor is a must?

d3100 ok?but don have af motor wor
d90 have motor but video not so good

any other model for recommendation?
Agito666
post Sep 23 2011, 09:33 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(noien @ Sep 23 2011, 09:30 PM)
for budget around 2k to 2.5k
wat is the best of value for a beginner?
is body with af motor is a must?

d3100 ok?but don have af motor wor
d90 have motor but video not so good

any other model for recommendation?
*
not really... newer lens all have AF one so no need worry about that.
celciuz
post Sep 23 2011, 09:57 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 23 2011, 09:33 PM)
not really... newer lens all have AF one so no need worry about that.
*
Especially when there is the 50mm f/1.8G... probably the most expensive 50mm f/1.8 around... and compatible with entry level bodies for auto focus.
BenSow
post Sep 24 2011, 12:00 AM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


Anyone here has been to Korea?
Agito666
post Sep 24 2011, 12:01 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 12:00 AM)
Anyone here has been to Korea?
*
no why?
you go? i jelly sad.gif

my colleague got went there before.
gnome
post Sep 24 2011, 12:03 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 12:00 AM)
Anyone here has been to Korea?
*
Planning to go there end of next month! thumbup.gif
zstan
post Sep 24 2011, 12:26 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 12:00 AM)
Anyone here has been to Korea?
*
Yes why?
hackerzx
post Sep 24 2011, 09:20 AM

Hackerzx Prime
*****
Senior Member
929 posts

Joined: Jan 2006


my gF plan to buy s9100 or p300 ..any idea which one is better ? seems like the price is almost same..only the function ..for me is p300 tongue.gif ..but both also get advntge and disadvnge.. :S
BenSow
post Sep 24 2011, 02:44 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 24 2011, 12:01 AM)
no why?
you go? i jelly  sad.gif

my colleague got went there before.
*
I scared cold leh. lol


QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 24 2011, 12:03 AM)
Planning to go there end of next month! thumbup.gif
*
ooo nice... just want some advice for photography there tongue.gif

QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 24 2011, 12:26 AM)
Yes why?
*
Any lens you would recommend for there? Currently still stuck with 18-55 and I wanna see if I can buy a lens prior to the trip
celciuz
post Sep 24 2011, 04:08 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 02:44 PM)
I scared cold leh. lol
ooo nice... just want some advice for photography there tongue.gif
Any lens you would recommend for there? Currently still stuck with 18-55 and I wanna see if I can buy a lens prior to the trip
*
18-55 will do fine for traveling. If you need extra reach, you can consider 55-200, 55-300 or just go for the all rounder 18-200.

Usually when traveling, you will take more on wide ends compared to tele end anyways.
Agito666
post Sep 24 2011, 05:48 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 02:44 PM)
I scared cold leh. lol
ooo nice... just want some advice for photography there tongue.gif
Any lens you would recommend for there? Currently still stuck with 18-55 and I wanna see if I can buy a lens prior to the trip
*
i JELLY....
how much for the expenses? tongue.gif

last few month my colleague went there, raining season... normal cloth only XD
fongzai92
post Sep 24 2011, 08:30 PM

kuli
******
Senior Member
1,311 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
From: peejay


hi there. im using bro's d3000 and nw planning to go d7000. where is the greatest deal place ah? if possible list down the price too! thanks you!
iloveOov
post Sep 24 2011, 08:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
226 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
spam pic

user posted image
celciuz
post Sep 24 2011, 09:30 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Just now I was using 50mm f/1.8D on my D700... (rarely use it)... then when I remove, I noticed my f-stop at 2 instead -.-

Usually it will show zero... then when I checked carefully the latch for aperture stuck in middle ._.
TS0168257061
post Sep 24 2011, 09:35 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 24 2011, 09:30 PM)
Just now I was using 50mm f/1.8D on my D700... (rarely use it)... then when I remove, I noticed my f-stop at 2 instead -.-

Usually it will show zero... then when I checked carefully the latch for aperture stuck in middle ._.
*
stuck, cant use finger move ah?

my 35mm f2 is weird, sometimes will stuck at f2 when i turn all the way to f22,
then have to plug it out move the latch abit then only will jump to f22
Isepunye
post Sep 24 2011, 09:54 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
_DSC2315 by IsePunye, on Flickr
celciuz
post Sep 24 2011, 09:55 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Can, just need to push and it will spring back to normal. LOL. All my other lens don't use that latch.. only the 50mm i noticed will push the latch. I guess its for the metering so the body can detect what aperture is set for non cpu lens.
TS0168257061
post Sep 24 2011, 10:06 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 24 2011, 09:55 PM)
Can, just need to push and it will spring back to normal. LOL. All my other lens don't use that latch.. only the 50mm i noticed will push the latch. I guess its for the metering so the body can detect what aperture is set for non cpu lens.
*
Yes for NON CPU, but NOT FOR NON-AI LOL !


damn it last time I bought NON-AI lens... have to manual mod the thing so it will push the latch shakehead.gif

then when i sell the lens to another buyer, he talk so loudly that the lens can do metering without mod LOL !
after received only say no metering hahahaha!!!!
noien
post Sep 24 2011, 10:21 PM

Getting Started
*******
Senior Member
3,184 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 23 2011, 09:33 PM)
not really... newer lens all have AF one so no need worry about that.
*
so any nikon model to recommend between this?
d3100
d5100
d90

the best of value?tqvm
Isepunye
post Sep 24 2011, 10:30 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


reverse lens macro 50mm n 50mm
user posted image
_DSC2973 by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on September 24, 2011, 10:43 pmthe power of 50mm F1.8 its been awhile didnt use this lens.
user posted image
_DSC3144 by IsePunye, on Flickr

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Sep 24 2011, 10:43 PM
iXora.ix
post Sep 24 2011, 11:20 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



wanna ask..if I keep cabut battery grip,then plug back, do any things that affect camera?
because I got backpack,but can't fit since battery too big sad.gif
razuryza
post Sep 25 2011, 12:34 AM

\('o')/~fewwwiitttt~\("0")/
*******
Senior Member
5,515 posts

Joined: Jan 2006


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
wanna ask..if I keep cabut battery grip,then plug back, do any things that affect camera?
because I got backpack,but can't fit since battery too big sad.gif
*
nothing affected
vearn27
post Sep 25 2011, 03:18 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 23 2011, 11:18 AM)
Looking for Nikon 300mm f/2.8G ED AF-S VR II and not many shops carry this lens, siapa ada contact? rolleyes.gif
*
I believe Yannick could be helpful. Give him a call and see if he could sort that out for you. If you don't know where to get his contact, google "Yannick Camera" smile.gif

QUOTE(iloveOov @ Sep 24 2011, 08:42 PM)
spam pic

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
Face hidden in the shadow. Given if it's me, I will try to avoid and let the light fall on the face instead.

QUOTE(noien @ Sep 24 2011, 10:21 PM)
so any nikon model to recommend between this?
d3100
d5100
d90

the best of value?tqvm
*
Given the list, I would say D5100. Unless you could topup from D90 to go for D7000. Well, again depending on what you're looking for in photography. Basically D5100 and D7000 using the same sensor and chipset, just different in terms of controls and ergonomic.

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 24 2011, 11:20 PM)
wanna ask..if I keep cabut battery grip,then plug back, do any things that affect camera?
because I got backpack,but can't fit since battery too big sad.gif
*
Both the body and body grip are kinda robust. Unless you "gasak kuat enough" enough to spoil it laugh.gif
celciuz
post Sep 25 2011, 10:21 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 25 2011, 03:18 AM)
I believe Yannick could be helpful. Give him a call and see if he could sort that out for you. If you don't know where to get his contact, google "Yannick Camera" smile.gif
Face hidden in the shadow. Given if it's me, I will try to avoid and let the light fall on the face instead.
Given the list, I would say D5100. Unless you could topup from D90 to go for D7000. Well, again depending on what you're looking for in photography. Basically D5100 and D7000 using the same sensor and chipset, just different in terms of controls and ergonomic.
Both the body and body grip are kinda robust. Unless you "gasak kuat enough" enough to spoil it laugh.gif
*
Grips such as D90's isn't that robust.. its plastic all over ._. scared the part protruding will damage overtime. But for D7000/D300/D700 those are robust.
iXora.ix
post Sep 25 2011, 10:24 AM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 25 2011, 03:18 AM)

Both the body and body grip are kinda robust. Unless you "gasak kuat enough" enough to spoil it laugh.gif
*
i see... because im affraid if keep plug off and plug on back, later on, the battery grip will loose XD biggrin.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 25 2011, 10:28 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


yannick is a nice seller thumbup.gif

Tel : 012 219 2790
Email : yannickng@gmail.com
piscesguy
post Sep 25 2011, 11:12 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
user posted image

Upside down! tongue.gif
Moments before he lands down on ground

I think should have taken in portrait... doh.gif
iman_210
post Sep 25 2011, 11:40 AM

1.0 bar @ 221WHP
*******
Senior Member
2,684 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
From: Central Region


Got hold of my old FM2 kept in my parents house...feel like shooting film again...


Added on September 25, 2011, 11:41 am
QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 12:00 AM)
Anyone here has been to Korea?
*
mine in November...prolly bring the the 28-200 along...

This post has been edited by iman_210: Sep 25 2011, 11:41 AM
mmohdnor
post Sep 25 2011, 12:03 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,021 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
From: Penang Island, Alor Star


how much does it cost to fix a sticky zoom lens?
my 16-85 suddenly felt sticky to zoom from 70-85. haih. sad.gif

i hope it is not expensive.
*im in penang.
BenSow
post Sep 25 2011, 12:04 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(iman_210 @ Sep 25 2011, 11:40 AM)
Got hold of my old FM2 kept in my parents house...feel like shooting film again...


Added on September 25, 2011, 11:41 am

mine in November...prolly bring the the 28-200 along...
*
hmm thanks... lol it'd be very hard for me to get a new lens o.o dad freaked when I said the price could easily be over 1k


Added on September 25, 2011, 12:14 pmspam~ 18-55mm! smile.gif
user posted image
Gotcha! by BenSow, on Flickr

This post has been edited by BenSow: Sep 26 2011, 12:41 AM
zstan
post Sep 25 2011, 12:50 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
15,856 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Zion



QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 24 2011, 02:44 PM)
I scared cold leh. lol
ooo nice... just want some advice for photography there tongue.gif
Any lens you would recommend for there? Currently still stuck with 18-55 and I wanna see if I can buy a lens prior to the trip
*
I only used my tamron 17-50 throughout the trip.
Michaelbyz23
post Sep 25 2011, 02:47 PM

Sarawak Maju Makmur
*******
Senior Member
4,546 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
From: Selangor / Sarawak / New York



my first american football game. shot with nikkor 300mm f2.8
user posted image
DSC_1151 by michaelbyz23, on Flickr
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

for more, please visit my flickr =) thanks!

This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Sep 25 2011, 02:52 PM
TS0168257061
post Sep 25 2011, 04:32 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


im amazed with the d7k tracking now laugh.gif
gnome
post Sep 25 2011, 06:38 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Spam

user posted image

happy.gif
Isepunye
post Sep 25 2011, 07:31 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 25 2011, 11:12 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Upside down!  tongue.gif
Moments before he lands down on ground

I think should have taken in portrait... doh.gif
*
i personally like this way. makes me wonders its the person is hanging or backflip. if portrait modes, u might miss the cameraman too. biggrin.gif


Added on September 25, 2011, 7:32 pm
QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Sep 25 2011, 02:47 PM)
my first american football game. shot with nikkor 300mm f2.8
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

for more, please visit my flickr =) thanks!
*
superb series~! love it so much

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Sep 25 2011, 07:32 PM
hidden830726
post Sep 25 2011, 07:47 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
Auto Exposure Bracketing.

How to use this? Read here and there but not really understand.

Thanks
Isepunye
post Sep 25 2011, 07:48 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
_DSC2396 by IsePunye, on Flickr
Agito666
post Sep 25 2011, 08:44 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 25 2011, 07:48 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
somehow at first i thought is a miniature due to bokeh XD tongue.gif
nicholasbeh
post Sep 25 2011, 09:10 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,518 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 25 2011, 08:44 PM)
somehow at first i thought is a miniature due to bokeh XD tongue.gif
*
nice~
vearn27
post Sep 25 2011, 09:11 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 25 2011, 11:12 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Upside down!  tongue.gif
Moments before he lands down on ground

I think should have taken in portrait... doh.gif
*
I know where is the shooting. Somewhere in between the walkpath from Pavilion to KLCC? I saw it when passing by yesterday biggrin.gif
xammlik
post Sep 25 2011, 09:30 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
1 posts

Joined: Sep 2011


QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 25 2011, 07:48 PM)
user posted image
_DSC2396 by IsePunye, on Flickr
*
is that a film camera?? blink.gif
newbie here doh.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 25 2011, 09:51 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


yes that is a film medium format camera
celciuz
post Sep 25 2011, 11:14 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 25 2011, 04:32 PM)
im amazed with the d7k tracking now laugh.gif
*
Friend's new D7000 having issue with his 70200 somehow ._. The non cross sensor not accurate :S. Or maybe it was getting dark lol.

Yay~ 85mm f/1.4's bokeh glory~ ._. long time didn't use, was kinda impressed myself rofl...
user posted image
Eunice, Final by CY Pixels, on Flickr
Everdying
post Sep 25 2011, 11:37 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 25 2011, 11:14 PM)
Friend's new D7000 having issue with his 70200 somehow ._. The non cross sensor not accurate :S. Or maybe it was getting dark lol.
probably getting dark.
i tracked pro tennis fine with 70-300VR on non-cross sensor in daylight tongue.gif
celciuz
post Sep 25 2011, 11:57 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 25 2011, 11:37 PM)
probably getting dark.
i tracked pro tennis fine with 70-300VR on non-cross sensor in daylight tongue.gif
*
Either that, or his 70200 AF KO tongue.gif
Everdying
post Sep 26 2011, 12:01 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 25 2011, 11:57 PM)
Either that, or his 70200 AF KO tongue.gif
*
like urs before? u cursed him? tongue.gif
vearn27
post Sep 26 2011, 12:05 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




Tested 70-200 VRII on D7000 yesterday. It definitely a lovely lens but kinda too tele on APS-C. Will be much exciting on FX for sure biggrin.gif
Isepunye
post Sep 26 2011, 12:25 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 25 2011, 08:44 PM)
somehow at first i thought is a miniature due to bokeh XD tongue.gif
*
blame the fifty nifty lens for the bokeh. its already F2.8 ed tongue.gif


Added on September 26, 2011, 12:26 am
QUOTE(xammlik @ Sep 25 2011, 09:30 PM)
is that a film camera?? blink.gif
newbie here doh.gif
*
medium format. super big sensor and super nice shutter sound

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Sep 26 2011, 12:26 AM
FaezFarhan
post Sep 26 2011, 03:14 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 25 2011, 11:14 PM)
Friend's new D7000 having issue with his 70200 somehow ._. The non cross sensor not accurate :S. Or maybe it was getting dark lol.

Yay~ 85mm f/1.4's bokeh glory~ ._. long time didn't use, was kinda impressed myself rofl...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
*
Wide open? Awesome bokeh cry.gif

Btw, which is the best 50mm 1.4? Nikkor or Sigma? 80-200 is just too heavy for me right now. Moving all the time doh.gif
gnome
post Sep 26 2011, 03:36 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Sigma sharper (after calibration laugh.gif) but as for bokeh not sure, maybe sigma better i guess tongue.gif

Anyways i often brought my 80200 two touch with me around and somehow already got used to the weight. When i left the lens home nowdays i feel too light ady laugh.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 26 2011, 06:38 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 25 2011, 11:14 PM)
Friend's new D7000 having issue with his 70200 somehow ._. The non cross sensor not accurate :S. Or maybe it was getting dark lol.

Yay~ 85mm f/1.4's bokeh glory~ ._. long time didn't use, was kinda impressed myself rofl...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
bokeh is quite nice, somehow most of the slr lenses has LoCA when comes to big wide open.
celciuz
post Sep 26 2011, 06:55 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 26 2011, 12:01 AM)
like urs before? u cursed him? tongue.gif
*
Haha, just teasing him tongue.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 26 2011, 12:05 AM)
Tested 70-200 VRII on D7000 yesterday. It definitely a lovely lens but kinda too tele on APS-C. Will be much exciting on FX for sure biggrin.gif
*
A little too "not tele" on FX in my opinion, especially when the VRII has breathing issue at tele end on MFD.

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 26 2011, 03:14 AM)
Wide open? Awesome bokeh  cry.gif

Btw, which is the best 50mm 1.4? Nikkor or Sigma? 80-200 is just too heavy for me right now. Moving all the time doh.gif
*
Wide open biggrin.gif

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 26 2011, 06:38 AM)
bokeh is quite nice, somehow most of the slr lenses has LoCA when comes to big wide open.
*
It has improved since the f/1.4D version, the older brother had worse CA issue :S.
piscesguy
post Sep 26 2011, 07:21 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 25 2011, 07:31 PM)
i personally like this way. makes me wonders its the person is hanging or backflip. if portrait modes, u might miss the cameraman too. biggrin.gif
hehe, he was doing a backflip.. smile.gif I think I need a zoom lens.. sad.gif


Added on September 26, 2011, 7:26 am
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 25 2011, 09:11 PM)
I know where is the shooting. Somewhere in between the walkpath from Pavilion to KLCC? I saw it when passing by yesterday biggrin.gif
Just the road beside Maybank bukit bintang, FREE F&N drinks, saw many people ta pao too biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by piscesguy: Sep 26 2011, 07:26 AM
geekster129
post Sep 26 2011, 11:58 AM

Janitor
******
Senior Member
1,180 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: *awaiting GPS accuracy*



Test your gear expertise

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/IREPORT/09/22/...irpt/index.html
FaezFarhan
post Sep 26 2011, 05:34 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 26 2011, 03:36 AM)
Sigma sharper (after calibration laugh.gif) but as for bokeh not sure, maybe sigma better i guess tongue.gif

Anyways i often brought my 80200 two touch with me around and somehow already got used to the weight. When i left the lens home nowdays i feel too light ady laugh.gif
*
I see, how much will the calibration be? Where to do it? And is it worth it to buy the 50mm when we have a 35mm? hmm.gif
-kytz-
post Sep 26 2011, 05:40 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,573 posts

Joined: Nov 2008
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 26 2011, 05:34 PM)
I see, how much will the calibration be? Where to do it? And is it worth it to buy the 50mm when we have a 35mm? hmm.gif
*
Why not?

Pretty good especially when you need a longer focal length which your 35mm can't provide smile.gif
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 08:56 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
Need advise.

How can 50mm works in the following two scenario:
- Annual dinner at some hotel's ballroom.
- an cycling event like the coming OCBC Cycle Malaysia?

Suggest one lens that I should spend for the above two occasion with budget RM2000.

Gear: D5100 + sb700

Pls advise.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Sep 26 2011, 08:59 PM
FaezFarhan
post Sep 26 2011, 09:42 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(-kytz- @ Sep 26 2011, 05:40 PM)
Why not?

Pretty good especially when you need a longer focal length which your 35mm can't provide smile.gif
*
Coz only 15mm difference. Wanted the 85 1.4 but I can't afford it. How's the Sigma 85 f1.4 btw? Compared to Nikkor?
liowyingzhuo
post Sep 26 2011, 09:59 PM

t_rex
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Jun 2011
From: Penang


Beware Of Fake MB-D11

Click Here<<< how to spot a Fake D7000 Mb-d11 fake grip

user posted image
Beware of fake Mb-d11 by My Photo loh, on Flickr

I actually Got SCAMMM... NOOO...!! So beware of the fake mb-d11.. this is the best fake battery grip ever..

Never Buy this Batter grip from this seller: Hairiny
Read this Thread for more info>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2033668

Be careful Guys
tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 10:09 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2011, 08:56 PM)
Need advise.

How can 50mm works in the following two scenario:
- Annual dinner at some hotel's ballroom.
- an cycling event like the coming OCBC Cycle Malaysia?

Suggest one lens that I should spend for the above two occasion with budget RM2000.

Gear: D5100 + sb700

Pls advise.
*
Me thinks a prime lens would be hard to get group photo for the annual dinner.. unless you stand quite far away..

For the cycling event~ I fear 50mm might not have enough reach to take just a single cyclist..

then again, i'm an amateur.. so I might be wrong.. XD hehe~

p/s: i own a D5100 too. smile.gif
Calvin Seak
post Sep 26 2011, 10:24 PM

Hiring, TTDI, KL only
*******
Senior Member
2,447 posts

Joined: Oct 2008

QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 26 2011, 09:59 PM)
Beware Of Fake MB-D11

Click Here<<< how to spot a Fake D7000 Mb-d11 fake grip

user posted image
Beware of fake Mb-d11 by My Photo loh, on Flickr

I actually Got SCAMMM... NOOO...!! So beware of the fake mb-d11.. this is the best fake battery grip ever..

Never Buy this Batter grip from this seller: Hairiny
Read this Thread for more info>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2033668

Be careful Guys
*
sorry to hear about your lost... i recently purchased 1 mbd11 too but from shashinki
iXora.ix
post Sep 26 2011, 10:43 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



its fake and could damage the camera. how to spot?
check the warranty card. he claim that this item direct import from china,
so he might conned -,-
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 10:45 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 26 2011, 10:09 PM)
Me thinks a prime lens would be hard to get group photo for the annual dinner.. unless you stand quite far away..

For the cycling event~ I fear 50mm might not have enough reach to take just a single cyclist..

then again, i'm an amateur.. so I might be wrong.. XD hehe~

p/s: i own a D5100 too. smile.gif
*
Kind of agreed.

Thats why im thinking of getting a new lens, but what lens i should get that give me the best value. Budget can up if necessary.
celciuz
post Sep 26 2011, 10:54 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 26 2011, 10:43 PM)
its fake and could damage the camera. how to spot?
check the warranty card. he claim that this item direct import from china,
so he might conned -,-
*
Actually if it was me, I would have rejected it immediately... the warranty card looks so different from my other Nikon products.
tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 10:54 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2011, 10:45 PM)
Kind of agreed.

Thats why im thinking of getting a new lens, but what lens i should get that give me the best value. Budget can up if necessary.
*
^ I dun have tele lens yet. My friend previously recommended Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD.. It's a somewhat budget lens i think.. are you looking for all rounder zoom? 18-200 range would be quite sweet i think..

p/s: i assumed you already have a standard kit lens. that's why i just now thought of tele for better reach..

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 26 2011, 10:56 PM
celciuz
post Sep 26 2011, 11:05 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
I tried the 70-300 VC, its pretty good actually. Focusing isn't that slow and VC works pretty well. Image quality is alright for a third party, not sure how does it compare to the Nikkor.
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 11:07 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 26 2011, 10:54 PM)
^ I dun have tele lens yet. My friend previously recommended Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD.. It's a somewhat budget lens i think.. are you looking for all rounder zoom? 18-200 range would be quite sweet i think..

p/s: i assumed you already have a standard kit lens. that's why i just now thought of tele for better reach..
*
My kit 18-55 sold aldy, only play with 50mm for street, but need to help cover some events, so thinking of getting a good lens.

Prefer Nikon lens, 18-200 seems nice, but any other options? Not neccesary all rounder, just a lens that good enough to cover

- Annual dinner at some hotel's ballroom.
- an cycling event like the coming OCBC Cycle Malaysia
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 11:10 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
Thinking of:

16-85 or 17-55 second hand




tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 11:10 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


^ 17-55 f/2.8 by tamron?
celciuz
post Sep 26 2011, 11:11 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:10 PM)
Thinking of:

16-85 or 17-55 second hand
*
I would go for the 17-55 second hand... get a well maintained copy smile.gif
maudermunty
post Sep 26 2011, 11:13 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
65 posts

Joined: Nov 2009



would like to ask... which is better, 18-200 + 50mm or 18-55 + 55-300?
tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 11:17 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(maudermunty @ Sep 26 2011, 11:13 PM)
would like to ask... which is better, 18-200 + 50mm or 18-55 + 55-300?
*
^ personally I would prefer 18-200 + 50mm cuz you can cover most range and also have a nice 50mm for portrait.. smile.gif

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 26 2011, 11:18 PM
Everdying
post Sep 26 2011, 11:18 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(maudermunty @ Sep 26 2011, 11:13 PM)
would like to ask... which is better, 18-200 + 50mm or 18-55 + 55-300?
*
image quality - 18-55 + 55-300.
focus speed if important to u - 18-200 + 50mm.
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 11:18 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 26 2011, 11:10 PM)
^ 17-55 f/2.8 by tamron?
*
Nikon i prefer
maudermunty
post Sep 26 2011, 11:19 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
65 posts

Joined: Nov 2009



okay.. tx 4 d info.
tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 11:29 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:18 PM)
Nikon i prefer
*
Not too familiar with the nikon wan.. sorry mate~

p/s: not that i dun sappork nikon.. just.. not yet do my research on that range of lens.. hehehe~ just manage to site surf on that tamron lens..
celciuz
post Sep 26 2011, 11:30 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Tamron don't have 17-55 range, they only have 17-50. When 17-55 is mentioned, its usually Nikkor (or Canon tongue.gif)
tctham
post Sep 26 2011, 11:32 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 26 2011, 11:30 PM)
Tamron don't have 17-55 range, they only have 17-50. When 17-55 is mentioned, its usually Nikkor (or Canon tongue.gif)
*
oya.. my mistake.. lulz~~ paiseh~ actually so far.. all that i have is just nikon lens.. 18-55 and the 35.. haha~ no money di..
hidden830726
post Sep 26 2011, 11:33 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
17-55 second hand how much? I saw 3350 ok?
vearn27
post Sep 26 2011, 11:40 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:33 PM)
17-55 second hand how much? I saw 3350 ok?
*
Between RM3.2K ~ RM3.8K depending on the condition, years of usage and if warranty still available.
nivlanauk
post Sep 26 2011, 11:59 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Mar 2011
how much does a 8 months old Nikon 70-300mm VR cost?

This post has been edited by nivlanauk: Sep 27 2011, 12:00 AM
Everdying
post Sep 27 2011, 12:33 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 26 2011, 11:59 PM)
how much does a 8 months old Nikon 70-300mm VR cost?
*
8 months or 18 months...all still same 2nd hand price...rm1.3-1.4k.
ps. wanna buy mine? funding for nikon tc 1.4x tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Everdying: Sep 27 2011, 12:33 AM
FaezFarhan
post Sep 27 2011, 12:43 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



Should I sell my 80-200 and get 11-16 + Sigma 50 f1.4, or get the 85 f1.4 hmm.gif
lwliam
post Sep 27 2011, 01:05 AM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


edit

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 27 2011, 01:11 AM
nivlanauk
post Sep 27 2011, 08:36 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Mar 2011
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 27 2011, 12:33 AM)
8 months or 18 months...all still same 2nd hand price...rm1.3-1.4k.
ps. wanna buy mine? funding for nikon tc 1.4x tongue.gif
*
I'm selling mine. hehe tongue.gif
iman_210
post Sep 27 2011, 11:11 AM

1.0 bar @ 221WHP
*******
Senior Member
2,684 posts

Joined: Mar 2005
From: Central Region


QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Sep 25 2011, 02:47 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
love the series? f2.8?
Magician
post Sep 27 2011, 01:15 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
211 posts

Joined: Oct 2004


anyone know what is the minimum length of the original nikon tripod. This one is give this year during mid valley nikon fair.

any other tripod is smaller size compact that can be use for travel?
Pls gv some recommendation.

Thanks
celciuz
post Sep 27 2011, 01:29 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Magician @ Sep 27 2011, 01:15 PM)
anyone know what is the minimum length of the original nikon tripod. This one is give this year during mid valley nikon fair.

any other tripod is smaller size compact that can be use for travel?
Pls gv some recommendation.

Thanks
*
Last time I travel I was using my Gorillapod Focus tongue.gif, this time will need to carry my new (not yet arrive haha!) 055xprob for my sungai lembing trip zomg -.-
gnome
post Sep 27 2011, 01:49 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 27 2011, 01:29 PM)
Last time I travel I was using my Gorillapod Focus tongue.gif, this time will need to carry my new (not yet arrive haha!) 055xprob for my sungai lembing trip zomg -.-
*
I've been thinking if should get gorillapod or not for my trip next month hmm.gif laugh.gif
thisiskj
post Sep 27 2011, 02:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
279 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Nikon V1 and J1 preview by Chapree!

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/index.php?option=...d=5258&Itemid=1

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/index.php?option=...d=5260&Itemid=1


Added on September 27, 2011, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 26 2011, 09:59 PM)
Beware Of Fake MB-D11

Click Here<<< how to spot a Fake D7000 Mb-d11 fake grip

user posted image
Beware of fake Mb-d11 by My Photo loh, on Flickr

I actually Got SCAMMM... NOOO...!! So beware of the fake mb-d11.. this is the best fake battery grip ever..

Never Buy this Batter grip from this seller: Hairiny
Read this Thread for more info>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2033668

Be careful Guys
*
this is the rest of the counterfeit products..
http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answe...vNU5sUU42Rms%3D

the D11 is not recorded yet.. but nikon knew about it already

This post has been edited by thisiskj: Sep 27 2011, 02:46 PM
Magician
post Sep 27 2011, 04:34 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
211 posts

Joined: Oct 2004


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 27 2011, 01:29 PM)
Last time I travel I was using my Gorillapod Focus tongue.gif, this time will need to carry my new (not yet arrive haha!) 055xprob for my sungai lembing trip zomg -.-
*
I am looking for those full size that can stand on floor not the flexible type. Any suggestion , thanks?
Agito666
post Sep 27 2011, 04:36 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
guys got read the nikon 1's performance in camera review site?? brows.gif
BenSow
post Sep 27 2011, 04:38 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


I know this is not a suitable place but I'm desperate sad.gif Can my fellow Nikonians help me like this?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=291...3&type=1&ref=nf
Your help would be highly appreciated and if possible please spread it out.. Need all the help I can get.. Thanks!
TS0168257061
post Sep 27 2011, 05:03 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 26 2011, 09:59 PM)
Beware Of Fake MB-D11

Click Here<<< how to spot a Fake D7000 Mb-d11 fake grip

user posted image
Beware of fake Mb-d11 by My Photo loh, on Flickr

I actually Got SCAMMM... NOOO...!! So beware of the fake mb-d11.. this is the best fake battery grip ever..

Never Buy this Batter grip from this seller: Hairiny
Read this Thread for more info>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2033668

Be careful Guys
*
thanks, will update on first post.
Everdying
post Sep 27 2011, 05:11 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
zzz...the nikon V1 looks like it cannot mount the regular SB600/700/800/900 flashes?
the P7000 can...
Agito666
post Sep 27 2011, 05:16 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
user posted image

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/09/26/nikon-...n-the-d3x-dslr/

hmm.gif
gnome
post Sep 27 2011, 05:19 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 27 2011, 05:11 PM)
zzz...the nikon V1 looks like it cannot mount the regular SB600/700/800/900 flashes?
the P7000 can...
*
Got adapter to use normal hotshoe mount

user posted image
gnome
post Sep 27 2011, 05:21 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 27 2011, 05:16 PM)
Cant help to laugh at that illustration laugh.gif
Andy214
post Sep 27 2011, 05:25 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 27 2011, 05:11 PM)
zzz...the nikon V1 looks like it cannot mount the regular SB600/700/800/900 flashes?
the P7000 can...
*
There is dedicated Flash unit for V1, and also other accessories which complements video recording (including bigger touch screen enabled display).
wke002
post Sep 27 2011, 05:47 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
116 posts

Joined: Sep 2008


I see all hot on the new V1/J1...... Does anyone know where to find correction eyepiece for my d7000 as nikon malaysia does not seem to be selling. very susah to capture with my glasses on...summore am not a contact lens kaki.
celciuz
post Sep 27 2011, 06:18 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Try the online shops such as Shashinki or Yamiya for it.
Everdying
post Sep 27 2011, 07:09 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 27 2011, 05:25 PM)
There is dedicated Flash unit for V1, and also other accessories which complements video recording (including bigger touch screen enabled display).
*
i know got, but whats the point of getting existing users to buy new stuff if their old stuff is not compatible.

now this is a proper answer tongue.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ Sep 27 2011, 05:19 PM)
Got adapter to use normal hotshoe mount

user posted image
*
Calvin Seak
post Sep 27 2011, 07:19 PM

Hiring, TTDI, KL only
*******
Senior Member
2,447 posts

Joined: Oct 2008

QUOTE(wke002 @ Sep 27 2011, 05:47 PM)
I see all hot on the new V1/J1...... Does anyone know where to find correction eyepiece for my d7000 as nikon malaysia does not seem to be selling. very susah to capture with my glasses on...summore am not a contact lens kaki.
*
did you try the + - scroll beside your view finder on the right?
iXora.ix
post Sep 27 2011, 08:38 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 27 2011, 07:19 PM)
did you try the + - scroll beside your view finder on the right?
*
i think he want to find a eyecup that prefectly match with spectacles smile.gif
i also suffer this problem...cant see viewfinder properly.. sad.gif
piscesguy
post Sep 27 2011, 08:39 PM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
user posted image

Oh No! Where's my cap? smile.gif
Andy214
post Sep 27 2011, 08:57 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 27 2011, 07:09 PM)
i know got, but whats the point of getting existing users to buy new stuff if their old stuff is not compatible.

now this is a proper answer tongue.gif
*
It's nice to have that, but still mean need to spend for the additional "accesssories", but at least there is an option.

FaezFarhan
post Sep 27 2011, 08:58 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



How far off is the Sigma 85mm f1.4 compared to the Nikkor version? For the price of the 85 f1.4G, I could have the Sigma version + Tokina 11-16 hmm.gif
tctham
post Sep 27 2011, 09:09 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 27 2011, 08:39 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Oh No! Where's my cap?  smile.gif
*
nice capture! like the composition, his pose and his cap

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 27 2011, 09:09 PM
TS0168257061
post Sep 28 2011, 01:46 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


Looking for Nikon 55mm f/3.5 Micro / AF 60/105mm f/2.8D Micro / 105mm f/2.8 Ai Micro or Tamron SP90 AF NON Motor version

sweat.gif looking for old macro lens so hard
Everdying
post Sep 28 2011, 02:30 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 27 2011, 08:58 PM)
How far off is the Sigma 85mm f1.4 compared to the Nikkor version? For the price of the 85 f1.4G, I could have the Sigma version + Tokina 11-16 hmm.gif
*
sigma is always prone to focus issues, if u manage to find a good one then of cos its very good...but more often than not u wont find.
thats why even ken rockwell calls sigma significant malfunction tongue.gif
FaezFarhan
post Sep 28 2011, 02:40 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 28 2011, 02:30 AM)
sigma is always prone to focus issues, if u manage to find a good one then of cos its very good...but more often than not u wont find.
thats why even ken rockwell calls sigma significant malfunction tongue.gif
*
I see, looks like it's gonna be the 85 f/1.4G then. It's RM4650 here in Kota Bharu hmm.gif
celciuz
post Sep 28 2011, 07:21 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 28 2011, 02:40 AM)
I see, looks like it's gonna be the 85 f/1.4G then. It's RM4650 here in Kota Bharu hmm.gif
*
I got mine for RM4600 in Melaka last year. November 2010.
piscesguy
post Sep 28 2011, 07:28 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 27 2011, 09:09 PM)
nice capture! like the composition, his pose and his cap
*
Thanks. smile.gif
thisiskj
post Sep 28 2011, 09:58 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
279 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 27 2011, 05:11 PM)
zzz...the nikon V1 looks like it cannot mount the regular SB600/700/800/900 flashes?
the P7000 can...
*
You will be really amazed if you can see how accurate the V1 flash produces.. variable flash power as well!
ifer
post Sep 28 2011, 10:20 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


eh the price for the 85mm 1.4G has been very consistent. i remember asking about it over at international and keycolor october last year and it was rm 4600
Everdying
post Sep 28 2011, 12:56 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 27 2011, 08:57 PM)
It's nice to have that, but still mean need to spend for the additional "accesssories", but at least there is an option.
*
well, its pretty obvious then that nikon's target market are new / compact users who are upgrading, and didnt care at all for existing DSLR users who may want a portable system.
until of cos certain DSLR users starting making noise, that they decided to have adapters for the flashes and lenses tongue.gif
so looks like there should be enough demand from both kind of users.
Bliz
post Sep 28 2011, 02:13 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,734 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Melaka


QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 28 2011, 10:20 AM)
eh the price for the 85mm 1.4G has been very consistent. i remember asking about it over at international and keycolor october last year and it was rm 4600
*
Yes it's around that price, anyone managed to get below that is bargain already thumbup.gif
Andy214
post Sep 28 2011, 02:20 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 28 2011, 12:56 PM)
well, its pretty obvious then that nikon's target market are new / compact users who are upgrading, and didnt care at all for existing DSLR users who may want a portable system.
until of cos certain DSLR users starting making noise, that they decided to have adapters for the flashes and lenses tongue.gif
so looks like there should be enough demand from both kind of users.
*
Interesting news? Recent news said that Nikon started this mirrorless earlier than micro 4/3 launch, it's about 4 years ago. What's more, they're saying something about DSLR quality.

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/09/23/last-nik...spx/#more-22802

"When we started with this development, it was quite some time ago, it was prior to the Micro Four Thirds launch (almost four years ago)

We are quite confident that we achieved almost exactly the same quality as our DSLR

(Oh the Nikon 1 sensor) We developed it; we engineered and developed this sensor inside Nikon. But for the production side, that is done by our partner."

There're also ISO comparison with other mirrorless (including high end Compacts).

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 28 2011, 02:20 PM
Agito666
post Sep 28 2011, 02:27 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 28 2011, 02:20 PM)
Interesting news? Recent news said that Nikon started this mirrorless earlier than micro 4/3 launch, it's about 4 years ago. What's more, they're saying something about DSLR quality.

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/09/23/last-nik...spx/#more-22802

"When we started with this development, it was quite some time ago, it was prior to the Micro Four Thirds launch (almost four years ago)

We are quite confident that we achieved almost exactly the same quality as our DSLR

(Oh the Nikon 1 sensor) We developed it; we engineered and developed this sensor inside Nikon. But for the production side, that is done by our partner."

There're also ISO comparison with other mirrorless (including high end Compacts).
*
looks nice ohhh....
good for those not really fance about pixel peep and more casual user... like sometimes you travel to some india or whatever...
*now i wonder the bokeh test and macro test there... ISO and sharpness looks like good already

saw some fancy skilled people in road tight? (well we have saw in facebook video sometimes like china's steam "iron" man, indian's teh tarik, some kung fu packaging skill as well...)
then slow-mo mode will become handy thumbup.gif

duno future DSLR got include this in pro body or not? hmm.gif
if got really nice oh... oh wait
current nikon DSLR got this? unsure.gif


This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 28 2011, 02:30 PM
thisiskj
post Sep 28 2011, 05:04 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
279 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(wke002 @ Sep 27 2011, 05:47 PM)
I see all hot on the new V1/J1...... Does anyone know where to find correction eyepiece for my d7000 as nikon malaysia does not seem to be selling. very susah to capture with my glasses on...summore am not a contact lens kaki.
*
Hi there wke002, i think Nikon Malaysia does sell the correction eyepiece but Nikon Malaysia doesnt stock them only. you might need to order them through Nikon Shop KLCC or Nikon Shop Alamanda Putrajaya. Please do ask them to order from Nikon Malaysia on the exact code of em, they might be like quite blur about that.
tctham
post Sep 28 2011, 06:38 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


This is for the lulz.. at 1st i saw the 10mm CX format for V1/J1, i tot sure nice if put into my D5100.. then after calculation.. that 10mm will equate to 18mm on DX format (as in 24mm in FX) =.= haha~ what an idiot.. lulz~

edit: i do realize the drop in megapixel and size if i were to use cx lens on dx body.. >_< just trying to find a cheap way for wide angles.. haha~

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 28 2011, 06:39 PM
FaezFarhan
post Sep 28 2011, 06:58 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



Quite hard to sell the 80-200 two touch at my hometown. Probably have to wait till I comeback to Cyberjaya doh.gif Holding up for RM2800 since it's in a perfect condition, 9/10 I guess smile.gif
Calvin Seak
post Sep 28 2011, 08:07 PM

Hiring, TTDI, KL only
*******
Senior Member
2,447 posts

Joined: Oct 2008

Nikon coming out with a 70-200 f4 soon i hope >.<


Nikon recently patent for both 70-200mm f/4 VRII & 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6


This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Sep 28 2011, 08:10 PM
Isepunye
post Sep 28 2011, 08:29 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
IMG-20110928-00280 by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on September 28, 2011, 8:30 pm
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 28 2011, 06:58 PM)
Quite hard to sell the 80-200 two touch at my hometown. Probably have to wait till I comeback to Cyberjaya doh.gif Holding up for RM2800 since it's in a perfect condition, 9/10 I guess smile.gif
*
sell to me la. i buy installment tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Sep 28 2011, 08:30 PM
Calvin Seak
post Sep 28 2011, 08:44 PM

Hiring, TTDI, KL only
*******
Senior Member
2,447 posts

Joined: Oct 2008

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 28 2011, 08:29 PM)
user posted image
IMG-20110928-00280 by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on September 28, 2011, 8:30 pm
sell to me la. i buy installment tongue.gif
*
nice cloud and compo!

What lens did you use?

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Sep 28 2011, 08:45 PM
Isepunye
post Sep 28 2011, 08:56 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 28 2011, 08:44 PM)
nice cloud and compo!

What lens did you use?
*
thanks. blackberry 9800 torch
nivlanauk
post Sep 28 2011, 09:17 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
307 posts

Joined: Mar 2011
QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 28 2011, 08:56 PM)
thanks. blackberry 9800 torch
*
pwned.
nanogen
post Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
188 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 28 2011, 08:56 PM)
thanks. blackberry 9800 torch
*
QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Sep 28 2011, 09:17 PM)
pwned.
*
lmao!!

besides, do welcome me as i just jump from the White territory to the Darkside XD rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

D7000 + 50mm F1.4G rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
hidden830726
post Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
Isepunye
post Sep 28 2011, 09:34 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
*
its still worth
gnome
post Sep 28 2011, 09:37 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
*
Why not? its a very good lens thumbup.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 28 2011, 09:56 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
*
give urself answer,

its the best DX lens ever,

best of all brand rolleyes.gif
iXora.ix
post Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(nanogen @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
lmao!!

besides, do welcome me as i just jump from the White territory to the Darkside XD  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

D7000 + 50mm F1.4G  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
*
welcome to darkside...what is ur past camera?
celciuz
post Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Spam sikit... tongue.gif

user posted image
Miya, Final by CY Pixels, on Flickr
TS0168257061
post Sep 28 2011, 10:01 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM)
welcome to darkside...what is ur past camera?
*
i guess is 450d brows.gif
nanogen
post Sep 28 2011, 10:08 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
188 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM)
welcome to darkside...what is ur past camera?
*
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:01 PM)
i guess is 450d  brows.gif
*
hohoho, actually it was not an upgrade..just purely woke up from the dream and notice i should be Dark inside my soul...haha

60D actually...it was a great camera actually....hmm....speaking abt it..staring to miss my ex now tongue.gif
weirdo88
post Sep 28 2011, 10:18 PM

me is noob =D
******
Senior Member
1,338 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
From: kuala lumpur


QUOTE(nanogen @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
lmao!!

besides, do welcome me as i just jump from the White territory to the Darkside XD  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

D7000 + 50mm F1.4G  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
*
Where is your 85mm1.4g and 35mm1.4g?? brows.gif brows.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 28 2011, 10:20 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


oh i tot he using D700 pulak laugh.gif

why lah jump to same grade
celciuz
post Sep 28 2011, 10:24 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:20 PM)
oh i tot he using D700 pulak laugh.gif

why lah jump to same grade
*
60D... no weather seal... no magnesium alloy body... same grade? whistling.gif 60D feels so plastic =/ D7000 feels more solid, macho! biggrin.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 28 2011, 10:47 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 28 2011, 10:24 PM)
60D... no weather seal... no magnesium alloy body... same grade? whistling.gif  60D feels so plastic =/ D7000 feels more solid, macho! biggrin.gif
*
i feel "the same" grade as its lie on the category
because both of them can produce nice photo.

mean while 60D has vary angle lcd , very handy biggrin.gif
celciuz
post Sep 28 2011, 10:53 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:47 PM)
i feel "the same" grade as its lie on the category
because both of them can produce nice photo.

mean while 60D has vary angle lcd , very handy  biggrin.gif
*
D5100 has vari angle LCD too tongue.gif, I would say it is more of a D5100-ish class haha.
nanogen
post Sep 28 2011, 10:56 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
188 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


haha..no need to argue la...i agree its the same grade lol

60D is a bloody good camera whereby it can produce excellent photo..if it cant, then maybe the user (me) s*x lol

i just personally prefer the handling of D7000...

wierd: lol..still long way to go la..but working on it LOL...need to up the skill before up the gear no? feel like more to gearhead than photographer blush.gif blush.gif

This post has been edited by nanogen: Sep 28 2011, 10:57 PM
liowyingzhuo
post Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM

t_rex
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Jun 2011
From: Penang


Anyone here own nikon F2.8 70-200 vrII... how is the quality?? i am considering...
Agito666
post Sep 28 2011, 11:30 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
spam a bit... guess what lens? brows.gif

user posted image

user posted image
liowyingzhuo
post Sep 28 2011, 11:32 PM

t_rex
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Jun 2011
From: Penang


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:30 PM)
spam a bit... guess what lens? brows.gif

user posted image

user posted image
*
nikon 70-200.. o.0??
Everdying
post Sep 29 2011, 12:09 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM)
Anyone here own nikon F2.8 70-200 vrII... how is the quality?? i am considering...
*
if got money, buy.
dont think, just buy.

tongue.gif
hidden830726
post Sep 29 2011, 12:10 AM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 29 2011, 12:09 AM)
if got money, buy.
dont think, just buy.

tongue.gif
*
Same apply to 17-55 2.8? Just buy, no need think?
tctham
post Sep 29 2011, 12:49 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(nanogen @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
lmao!!

besides, do welcome me as i just jump from the White territory to the Darkside XD  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

D7000 + 50mm F1.4G  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
*
lmao.. you seriously jump ship.. i tot you joking with me that time.. sudd jump ship.. shock dao me~

spam picture

user posted image

This is one of my best ones edi.. sad.gif so far haven't manage to get nice shots

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 29 2011, 01:20 AM
ikki9394
post Sep 29 2011, 01:04 AM

NexT
****
Senior Member
582 posts

Joined: Jan 2009
From: Inside a green basket


QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 12:49 AM)
lmao.. you seriously jump ship.. i tot you joking with me that time.. the last time i hear you damn poisoned by the nanoc wan wor~ sudd jump ship.. shock dao me~

spam picture

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is one of my best ones edi.. sad.gif so far haven't manage to get nice shots
*
Mine telling what lens u using? Very nice btw ^^
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 01:11 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 28 2011, 11:32 PM)
nikon 70-200.. o.0??
*
nikon nokia n8 tongue.gif
tctham
post Sep 29 2011, 01:18 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Sep 29 2011, 01:04 AM)
Mine telling what lens u using? Very nice btw ^^
*
AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

The sea not smooth cuz i didn't manage to bring my tripod to that trip (it was business trip and i was rushing.. just grabbed the camera and went). Can't take long exposure.. sad.gif


Added on September 29, 2011, 1:29 am
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 01:11 AM)
nikon nokia n8  tongue.gif
*
With good photographer.. even phone win dslr.. >_<

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 29 2011, 01:29 AM
coffeetea
post Sep 29 2011, 01:30 AM

New Member
*
Junior Member
6 posts

Joined: Sep 2011
I am seriously considering to get a D7000, is there any not so "good" comments concerning this DSLR...compared to 60D?..
vearn27
post Sep 29 2011, 01:46 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(coffeetea @ Sep 29 2011, 01:30 AM)
I am seriously considering to get a D7000, is there any not so "good" comments concerning this DSLR...compared to 60D?..
*
Not so good comments such as . . . . . ?
siles1991
post Sep 29 2011, 02:09 AM

I love tubes so should you!
******
Senior Member
1,861 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
From: Selangor


simpel question is the D90 worth my money these days tongue.gif??
tctham
post Sep 29 2011, 02:13 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:09 AM)
simpel question is the D90 worth my money these days tongue.gif??
*
if you have the budget.. it's better to go for the d7000 instead.. else d90 is fine... imo
gnome
post Sep 29 2011, 02:39 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
That pic of HK needs to be bigger, cant see the details liao
siles1991
post Sep 29 2011, 02:50 AM

I love tubes so should you!
******
Senior Member
1,861 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
From: Selangor


QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 02:13 AM)
if you have the budget.. it's better to go for the d7000 instead.. else d90 is fine... imo
*
aight thanks
Isepunye
post Sep 29 2011, 03:02 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 02:50 AM)
aight thanks
*
just go D7000 without regret. D90 is a good body but kinda obsolete ed as even D3100 also can fight ISO with D90.
siles1991
post Sep 29 2011, 03:17 AM

I love tubes so should you!
******
Senior Member
1,861 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
From: Selangor


QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 29 2011, 03:02 AM)
just go D7000 without regret. D90 is a good body but kinda obsolete ed as even D3100 also can fight ISO with D90.
*
I want to but my "budget" isnt willing to let me go any higher....
Isepunye
post Sep 29 2011, 03:23 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


suffer now rather then regret later


Added on September 29, 2011, 3:24 amuser posted image
badan by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on September 29, 2011, 3:27 amuser posted image
badan2 by IsePunye, on Flickr

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Sep 29 2011, 03:27 AM
siles1991
post Sep 29 2011, 03:28 AM

I love tubes so should you!
******
Senior Member
1,861 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
From: Selangor


QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 29 2011, 03:23 AM)
suffer now rather then regret later


Added on September 29, 2011, 3:24 amuser posted image
badan by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on September 29, 2011, 3:27 amuser posted image
badan2 by IsePunye, on Flickr
*
budget = parents ....at first dad want get me the D3100...then I keep kacau him till he agree to get either Canon 600D or D90...
Isepunye
post Sep 29 2011, 03:30 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 03:28 AM)
budget = parents ....at first dad want get me the D3100...then I keep kacau him till he agree to get either Canon 600D or D90...
*
go and get D90. if u think u wnt to play video also but sacrifice on better handling, go D3100
siles1991
post Sep 29 2011, 03:33 AM

I love tubes so should you!
******
Senior Member
1,861 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
From: Selangor


I want do photography in event area but sometimes the lighting quite dim or a one that can take picture practically anywhere~ I don't care much about video, not planning to make a movie biggrin.gif
gnome
post Sep 29 2011, 04:06 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 03:28 AM)
budget = parents ....at first dad want get me the D3100...then I keep kacau him till he agree to get either Canon 600D or D90...
*
Get 600D! since its within budget, forget about D7k
piscesguy
post Sep 29 2011, 07:39 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM)
Anyone here own nikon F2.8 70-200 vrII... how is the quality?? i am considering...
*
One of the best mid range zoom lens...good bokeh! drool.gif
U should have one in your bag if u shoot sports, fashion...

Cons are it's expensive and heavy.. sad.gif


celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 07:49 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM)
Anyone here own nikon F2.8 70-200 vrII... how is the quality?? i am considering...
*
Awesome lens wink.gif Fast and accurate focusing, solid build, weather seal, excellent optics etc etc LOL.

Samples,
user posted image
Shimizu Eri by CY Pixels, on Flickr

user posted image
Zent by CY Pixels, on Flickr
piscesguy
post Sep 29 2011, 08:30 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
On the 2nd pic, at a glance I thought she has a long arm pit hair... biggrin.gif
tctham
post Sep 29 2011, 08:36 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 29 2011, 07:49 AM)
Awesome lens  wink.gif Fast and accurate focusing, solid build, weather seal, excellent optics etc etc LOL.

Samples,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
Second girl looks fantastic.. smile.gif
ifer
post Sep 29 2011, 08:41 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


QUOTE(coffeetea @ Sep 29 2011, 01:30 AM)
I am seriously considering to get a D7000, is there any not so "good" comments concerning this DSLR...compared to 60D?..
*
can't use L lenses
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 08:57 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(piscesguy @ Sep 29 2011, 08:30 AM)
On the 2nd pic, at a glance I thought she has a long arm pit hair... biggrin.gif
*
My bad laugh.gif Didn't noticed it when processing this image somehow.

QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 08:36 AM)
Second girl looks fantastic.. smile.gif
*
brows.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 29 2011, 09:04 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(liowyingzhuo @ Sep 28 2011, 11:20 PM)
Anyone here own nikon F2.8 70-200 vrII... how is the quality?? i am considering...
*
funny you, paying near to Rm7k still wondering the quality ?
thisiskj
post Sep 29 2011, 09:26 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
279 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
*
it's one of the Legendary lens of Nikkor line-ups


Added on September 29, 2011, 9:39 am
QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 29 2011, 03:02 AM)
just go D7000 without regret. D90 is a good body but kinda obsolete ed as even D3100 also can fight ISO with D90.
*
why not D5100 then? picture quality more awesomez than 600D!

This post has been edited by thisiskj: Sep 29 2011, 09:39 AM
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 03:28 AM)
budget = parents ....at first dad want get me the D3100...then I keep kacau him till he agree to get either Canon 600D or D90...
*
i also wan ask my parents buy for me but my mom said : "you are not making money from camera so..NO" sad.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM
TS0168257061
post Sep 29 2011, 10:33 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM)
i also wan ask my parents buy for me but my mom said : "you are not making money from camera so..NO"  sad.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
if aira ask you be her slave, wanna ? rolleyes.gif
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:33 AM)
if aira ask you be her slave, wanna ?  rolleyes.gif
*
unsure.gif
need to consider...

same question to you...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

rolleyes.gif


Calvin Pixels
post Sep 29 2011, 10:43 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
154 posts

Joined: May 2011


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM)
if you drop a nikon D700 camera in the pool, then goddess aira comes out from the pool... and she ask:  do you drop your camera in pool?
you answer: yes.
then aira go inside pool and picked up 2 camera...and ask:
my left hand is the expeed 3, dual core, 70-200 VRII D800 camera and my right hand got D700 camara...

so your answer?
1) left hand
2) right hand
3) i want you, aira!
Good 1 haha me wan D700!! smile.gif
Andy214
post Sep 29 2011, 11:11 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


Oh my... Nikon's latest "bold" statement/post in FB sparks a big controversy everywhere...

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/09/28/nikon-...ipment-he-uses/
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 11:15 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:11 AM)
Oh my... Nikon's latest "bold" statement/post in FB sparks a big controversy everywhere...

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/09/28/nikon-...ipment-he-uses/
*
should be like ... nikkor lens = amplifier? so photographer skill good + a good lens = double win tongue.gif
Andy214
post Sep 29 2011, 11:19 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:15 AM)
should be like ... nikkor lens = amplifier?  so photographer skill good + a good lens = double win  tongue.gif
*
Maybe they phrase/write it wrongly, or maybe it's the person who post it.

Anyway, that's some big mess; Wonder how will Nikon try to fix it.
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 11:21 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:19 AM)
Maybe they phrase/write it wrongly, or maybe it's the person who post it.

Anyway, that's some big mess; Wonder how will Nikon try to fix it.
*
release D800 with half price laugh.gif
jchue73
post Sep 29 2011, 11:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 28 2011, 08:07 PM)
Nikon coming out with a 70-200 f4 soon i hope >.<
Nikon recently patent for  both 70-200mm f/4 VRII & 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6
The f/4 is about time.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 28 2011, 09:28 PM)
Quick Q

Is it still worth buying 17-55 2.8 Dx even after 7 years after its launched?
I bought lenses that were already 10 years old. Now it's already close to 15 years old.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 28 2011, 09:58 PM)
Spam sikit... tongue.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Nice. rclxms.gif Could not join some of my friends down in Malacca last weekend as I was in Singapore instead.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 28 2011, 10:20 PM)
oh i tot he using D700 pulak laugh.gif

why lah jump to same grade
60D is 1.6x crop body.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 28 2011, 11:30 PM)
spam a bit... guess what lens? brows.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
You should just abandon the idea of getting an FX body and get whatever Nokia replaces the N8.

QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 12:49 AM)
lmao.. you seriously jump ship.. i tot you joking with me that time.. sudd jump ship.. shock dao me~

spam picture

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is one of my best ones edi.. sad.gif so far haven't manage to get nice shots
Not bad. Is this stitched? I miss HK.


Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 11:26 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:23 AM)
The f/4 is about time.
You should just abandon the idea of getting an FX body and get whatever Nokia replaces the N8.
*
unfortunately n8 is the last one have shutter button on the phone? sad.gif
i get newer DSLR body for spare body to use in case my n8 no battery whistling.gif
*get whacked*

This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 29 2011, 11:26 AM
tctham
post Sep 29 2011, 12:12 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:11 AM)
Oh my... Nikon's latest "bold" statement/post in FB sparks a big controversy everywhere...

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/09/28/nikon-...ipment-he-uses/
*
zomg! *facepalm* I feel words cannot do this failure justice.. this is just fail..


Added on September 29, 2011, 12:14 pm
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:23 AM)
The f/4 is about time.
I bought lenses that were already 10 years old. Now it's already close to 15 years old.
Nice.  rclxms.gif Could not join some of my friends down in Malacca last weekend as I was in Singapore instead.
60D is 1.6x crop body.
You should just abandon the idea of getting an FX body and get whatever Nokia replaces the N8.
Not bad. Is this stitched? I miss HK.
*
Nope.. not stitched.. direct jpeg out from camera.. not a single PP.. I think I may have straightened it abit.. I can't remember.. I placed this on the railing (damn the mistake of not bringing tripod!) in the Stars of Avenue and then just clicked the shutter..

This post has been edited by tctham: Sep 29 2011, 12:14 PM
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 12:33 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:23 AM)
The f/4 is about time.
I bought lenses that were already 10 years old. Now it's already close to 15 years old.
Nice.  rclxms.gif Could not join some of my friends down in Malacca last weekend as I was in Singapore instead.
60D is 1.6x crop body.
You should just abandon the idea of getting an FX body and get whatever Nokia replaces the N8.
Not bad. Is this stitched? I miss HK.
*
Your friends came to Malacca for the same event? blink.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 29 2011, 12:42 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 10:41 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

aiyah , i dropped my d700 kat kl sentral and the lrt went over the camera and pecah liao sad.gif
poor man like me only use film and manual focus summore sad.gif
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 12:48 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 29 2011, 12:42 PM)
[/spoiler]
aiyah , i dropped my d700 kat kl sentral and the lrt went over the camera and pecah liao  sad.gif
poor man like me only use film and manual focus summore  sad.gif
*
You're kidding right? O.o
vearn27
post Sep 29 2011, 03:43 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(tctham @ Sep 29 2011, 12:12 PM)
zomg! *facepalm* I feel words cannot do this failure justice.. this is just fail..


Added on September 29, 2011, 12:14 pm

Nope.. not stitched.. direct jpeg out from camera.. not a single PP.. I think I may have straightened it abit.. I can't remember.. I placed this on the railing (damn the mistake of not bringing tripod!) in the Stars of Avenue and then just clicked the shutter..
*
Correction: Avenue of Stars tongue.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 12:48 PM)
You're kidding right? O.o
*
I hope he is . . . blink.gif
Agito666
post Sep 29 2011, 03:45 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 12:48 PM)
You're kidding right? O.o
*
his last thread is selling D700 whistling.gif
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 04:35 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


How to sell if it's ran over by LRT and hancur? Sell for rm10 also no one wants.
FaezFarhan
post Sep 29 2011, 07:14 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 04:35 PM)
How to sell if it's ran over by LRT and hancur? Sell for rm10 also no one wants.
*
laugh.gif

HMC uv filter is good enough? Probably gonna re-use it on the 85 f/1.4 hmm.gif
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 07:25 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 29 2011, 07:14 PM)
laugh.gif

HMC uv filter is good enough? Probably gonna re-use it on the 85 f/1.4 hmm.gif
*
Ideally, no filter is best. But due to that, the front elements are the 1st contact point upon impact. So I only use UV filters on my more expensive lenses. Hoya Multi-Coated (HMC) is good enough if you're not too fussy. I use a HMC on my 24-70 as well, and as for my 85 1.4, I slap on a Marumi filter. (don't really like it though, because when there's backlight, with the filter, it gives off a hazy purple layer. So when that happens, I take off the filter and continue shooting - provided it's not dusty/moist/wet). Still looking for a 77mm Zeiss filter.
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 07:46 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
For filters, I only trust Hoya HD and B+W XS-Pro.

Well, for me Hoya HD seems to be the best buy... XS-Pro is pricey.. especially their CPL =/
FaezFarhan
post Sep 29 2011, 07:57 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 07:25 PM)
Ideally, no filter is best. But due to that, the front elements are the 1st contact point upon impact. So I only use UV filters on my more expensive lenses. Hoya Multi-Coated (HMC) is good enough if you're not too fussy. I use a HMC on my 24-70 as well, and as for my 85 1.4, I slap on a Marumi filter. (don't really like it though, because when there's backlight, with the filter, it gives off a hazy purple layer. So when that happens, I take off the filter and continue shooting - provided it's not dusty/moist/wet). Still looking for a 77mm Zeiss filter.
*
Yeah actually just using it for protection, but don't want it to affect the picture quality smile.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 29 2011, 07:46 PM)
For filters, I only trust Hoya HD and B+W XS-Pro.

Well, for me Hoya HD seems to be the best buy... XS-Pro is pricey.. especially their CPL =/
*
How much is Hoya HD 77mm btw?

p/s correction; It's actually Kenko MC hmm.gif
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 08:22 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 29 2011, 07:57 PM)
Yeah actually just using it for protection, but don't want it to affect the picture quality smile.gif
How much is Hoya HD 77mm btw?

p/s correction; It's actually Kenko MC  hmm.gif
*
Bout RM250.
BenSow
post Sep 29 2011, 08:53 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


my friend(never into photography before) got a D5100 today... kinda jealous. lol
iXora.ix
post Sep 29 2011, 10:11 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 07:25 PM)
Still looking for a 77mm Zeiss filter.
*
wanna asking. why you prefer Zeiss? unsure.gif
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 10:14 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 29 2011, 10:11 PM)
wanna asking. why you prefer Zeiss? unsure.gif
*
Zeiss + Sony lens --> Super power! drool.gif

Okay, just kidding. Probably because Zeiss is well known / good etc.
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 10:23 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 29 2011, 10:11 PM)
wanna asking. why you prefer Zeiss? unsure.gif
*
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 29 2011, 10:14 PM)
Zeiss + Sony lens --> Super power!  drool.gif

Okay, just kidding. Probably because Zeiss is well known / good etc.
*
It's the coating I'm after. If you learn up on the history books, it is Zeiss who invented and pioneered the multi-coating technology. It's comparable to Hoya HD and B+W, but some have said that the Zeiss T* coating is better than the Hoya HD by a tiny bit (I have no idea how they tested that), and it's smudge-resistant as well, making cleaning much easier.

p/s: and by better, I mean to the extent that you really can't see any difference with or without the filter in any type of lighting condition, behaving as though there isn't a filter in front of it.

This post has been edited by lwliam: Sep 29 2011, 10:31 PM
celciuz
post Sep 29 2011, 10:26 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 10:23 PM)
It's the coating I'm after. If you learn up on the history books, it is Zeiss who invented and pioneered the multi-coating technology. It's comparable to Hoya HD and B+W, but some have said that the Zeiss T* coating is better than the Hoya HD by a tiny bit (I have no idea how they tested that), and it's smudge-resistant as well, making cleaning much easier.
*
True, Zeiss pioneered many stuffs. But if they don't continue to come out with new inventions, then the rest will overtake soon or maybe already now. Back then I really worship Zeiss lens, but after trying out a few myself found them isn't that worth 'worshiping' already. Also doubting how much 'better' or how 'good' is the Zeiss filter now.


Added on September 29, 2011, 10:31 pmSome old review, but I find them pretty good since it is all done in a well controlled environment.

http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

http://www.lenstip.com/120.1-article-UV_fi...supplement.html

Well, you get the rough idea. Not all filters nor the newer ones are in though.

This post has been edited by celciuz: Sep 29 2011, 10:31 PM
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 10:34 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 29 2011, 10:26 PM)
True, Zeiss pioneered many stuffs. But if they don't continue to come out with new inventions, then the rest will overtake soon or maybe already now. Back then I really worship Zeiss lens, but after trying out a few myself found them isn't that worth 'worshiping' already. Also doubting how much 'better' or how 'good' is the Zeiss filter now.


Added on September 29, 2011, 10:31 pmSome old review, but I find them pretty good since it is all done in a well controlled environment.

http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

http://www.lenstip.com/120.1-article-UV_fi...supplement.html

Well, you get the rough idea. Not all filters nor the newer ones are in though.
*
Well, to each his own, with the price of the Zeiss being roughly the same as the Hoya HD and cheaper than that from B+W, I'd go for a known working technology which has been tried and tested for decades. Not to say that Hoya doesn't produce good filters. Just it's a matter of preference.
ieR
post Sep 29 2011, 10:51 PM

~Cursed Member~
Group Icon
Elite
3,928 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
i hate that review. its wrong in a way. the UV filter scoring should be taken off as today digital sensor has no affect from UV. when that taken off, its obviously the B+W light transmission will boost the point for B+W pawning hoya. not to mention B+W coating has way to reduce haze in the air where Hoya tak ada. and B+W is by a company that make glass as long as zeiss and leica.

i hate that review because many hoya fanboys uses it to boost their ego. tongue.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 29 2011, 10:57 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 04:35 PM)
How to sell if it's ran over by LRT and hancur? Sell for rm10 also no one wants.
*
I > the copperfield flex.gif

btw zeiss filter or b+w more or less are same lah.

its like comparing nikon 70-200 VR 2 with canon 70-200 IS II laugh.gif

i mean quality wise.


BenSow
post Sep 29 2011, 11:22 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 29 2011, 11:15 AM)
should be like ... nikkor lens = amplifier?  so photographer skill good + a good lens = double win  tongue.gif
*
o.o That link looks more like Nikon promoting rather than talking bout photography.


Added on September 29, 2011, 11:25 pmBTW does anyone know what website that shows photos and the EXIF so that we can see the quality of a certain camera? It has a black background and if not mistaken the word pixel is in the URL... ><

This post has been edited by BenSow: Sep 29 2011, 11:25 PM
lwliam
post Sep 29 2011, 11:37 PM

Your friendly neighborhood photographer
Group Icon
Elite
6,075 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 3.1553587,101.7135668


500px.com
BenSow
post Sep 29 2011, 11:49 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 29 2011, 11:37 PM)
500px.com
*
not exactly what I as looking for but thanks, that's one awesome website smile.gif
Andy214
post Sep 30 2011, 01:18 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,308 posts

Joined: Nov 2004


QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 29 2011, 11:49 PM)
not exactly what I as looking for but thanks, that's one awesome website smile.gif
*
You mean this?
http://www.pixel-peeper.com/
BenSow
post Sep 30 2011, 01:31 AM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 30 2011, 01:18 AM)
yes yes! thanks a lot!
FaezFarhan
post Sep 30 2011, 03:45 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 30 2011, 01:18 AM)
Wow awesome website! Can see the results from the actual lens itself instead of reading reviews rclxms.gif

Wanna get the Tokina 11-16mm soon to replace my Tammy 17-50 biggrin.gif
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 07:27 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 29 2011, 10:51 PM)
i hate that review. its wrong in a way. the UV filter scoring should be taken off as today digital sensor has no affect from UV. when that taken off, its obviously the B+W light transmission will boost the point for B+W pawning hoya. not to mention B+W coating has way to reduce haze in the air where Hoya tak ada. and B+W is by a company that make glass as long as zeiss and leica.

i hate that review because many hoya fanboys uses it to boost their ego. tongue.gif
*
Isn't haze --> UV sorta related?

Anyways the B+W compared is the old one, they didn't take in account for the XS-Pro. Or XS-Pro nano or something... I have both Hoya HD and B+W XS-Pro (non nano), can't exactly see the differences actually. Only main differences I notice is... XS-Pro is harder to clean cry.gif , which is why I use Hoya HD on my event lens 70200 and 1635, and XS-Pro on my 85mm prime biggrin.gif
vearn27
post Sep 30 2011, 11:06 AM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 07:27 AM)
Isn't haze --> UV sorta related?

Anyways the B+W compared is the old one, they didn't take in account for the XS-Pro. Or XS-Pro nano or something... I have both Hoya HD and B+W XS-Pro (non nano), can't exactly see the differences actually. Only main differences I notice is... XS-Pro is harder to clean  cry.gif , which is why I use Hoya HD on my event lens 70200 and 1635, and XS-Pro on my 85mm prime biggrin.gif
*
Yeah, I too have 77mm XS-Pro UV (non-Nano) and it is so difficult to clean sad.gif

It's said that the Nano version will be easier to clean, it is?
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 02:04 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



sorry discuss about filter tongue.gif.....

err...do the b+w got non nano coated? it is old version?

I own the b+w f pro, that use on my 55200 and 35 1.8. i notice that the coating not soo good
because easily scratch..now both of the filter are suffer minor scratch..
do this happen when i wash my filter with soap? mueheheh
vearn27
post Sep 30 2011, 04:16 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 30 2011, 02:04 PM)
sorry discuss about filter tongue.gif.....

err...do the b+w got non nano coated? it is old version?

I own the b+w f pro, that use on my 55200 and 35 1.8. i notice that the coating not soo good
because easily scratch..now both of the filter are suffer minor scratch..
do this happen when i wash my filter with soap? mueheheh
*
The Nano-coat version come in latter version / batch replacing the previous one. When I bought my 77mm XS-Pro UV, M'sia still yet to has Nano-coat version stock. Anyway, from what I could sum up from their official website, it seems that the Nano-coat only helps in easier cleaning whilst the rest performance remained the same.

Seriously... you wash the filter with soap? shocking.gif

It could be possible because when scrubbing the filter, possibly there would be rough particle which may scratch it. That's why when using LENSPEN to clean the filter, 1st step is to use the brush to sweep away any particles on the filter before scrubbing it with the carbon tip. Same goes with car, we spray water from top down to wash away rough particles before starting to scrub with soap otherwise it may scratch the car.

This post has been edited by vearn27: Sep 30 2011, 04:16 PM
hidden830726
post Sep 30 2011, 04:25 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
wtb, 17-55 2.8 urgently, please help.

Sorry to post here mod, urgent.
Tanakwagu_noh
post Sep 30 2011, 05:25 PM

Photographer
*****
Senior Member
866 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: "Pak Pak Kangku Noh"



QUOTE(siles1991 @ Sep 29 2011, 03:28 AM)
budget = parents ....at first dad want get me the D3100...then I keep kacau him till he agree to get either Canon 600D or D90...
*
isepunye, iyakan mo shoot men model pula ni kali:) icon_rolleyes.gif
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 06:10 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 30 2011, 11:06 AM)
Yeah, I too have 77mm XS-Pro UV (non-Nano) and it is so difficult to clean sad.gif

It's said that the Nano version will be easier to clean, it is?
*
Not sure... mine is non-nano too if not mistaken sad.gif

user posted image
B+W XS-Pro Digital UV 77mm by CY Pixels, on Flickr
My box looks like this.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:16 PM)
The Nano-coat version come in latter version / batch replacing the previous one. When I bought my 77mm XS-Pro UV, M'sia still yet to has Nano-coat version stock. Anyway, from what I could sum up from their official website, it seems that the Nano-coat only helps in easier cleaning whilst the rest performance remained the same.

Seriously... you wash the filter with soap? shocking.gif

It could be possible because when scrubbing the filter, possibly there would be rough particle which may scratch it. That's why when using LENSPEN to clean the filter, 1st step is to use the brush to sweep away any particles on the filter before scrubbing it with the carbon tip. Same goes with car, we spray water from top down to wash away rough particles before starting to scrub with soap otherwise it may scratch the car.
*
When did you bought yours ah?

My filters so far no scratches yet... HD x2 and XS-Pro x1...
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 06:53 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 30 2011, 04:16 PM)
The Nano-coat version come in latter version / batch replacing the previous one. When I bought my 77mm XS-Pro UV, M'sia still yet to has Nano-coat version stock. Anyway, from what I could sum up from their official website, it seems that the Nano-coat only helps in easier cleaning whilst the rest performance remained the same.

Seriously... you wash the filter with soap? shocking.gif

It could be possible because when scrubbing the filter, possibly there would be rough particle which may scratch it. That's why when using LENSPEN to clean the filter, 1st step is to use the brush to sweep away any particles on the filter before scrubbing it with the carbon tip. Same goes with car, we spray water from top down to wash away rough particles before starting to scrub with soap otherwise it may scratch the car.
*
aaa...sh!t.....i dont know it could damage my filter...my hoya CPL also got circle where it seems like the coated has peel off -,-
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 06:10 PM)
Not sure... mine is non-nano too if not mistaken sad.gif

user posted image
B+W XS-Pro Digital UV 77mm by CY Pixels, on Flickr
My box looks like this.
When did you bought yours ah?

My filters so far no scratches yet... HD x2 and XS-Pro x1...
*
i brought at MPA...garage seller...

my box like this
user posted image
vearn27
post Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 06:10 PM)
Not sure... mine is non-nano too if not mistaken sad.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

B+W XS-Pro Digital UV 77mm by CY Pixels, on Flickr
My box looks like this.
When did you bought yours ah?

My filters so far no scratches yet... HD x2 and XS-Pro x1...
*
I bought mine early June and according to MPA, the Nano-coat is to replace the non Nano-coat version. Hence, new stock will eventually become Nano-coat version after the initial batch/stock of non-Nano cleared. There should be no such thing as selection between Nano and non-Nano in the market because it's more like a revision or replacement.

And at that time of June when I'm asking around, the B+W distro in M'sia yet to carry any Nano version yet.

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 30 2011, 06:53 PM)
aaa...sh!t.....i dont know it could damage my filter...my hoya CPL also got circle where it seems like the coated has peel off -,-

i brought at MPA...garage seller...

my box like this
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
My box should be exactly the same like both of yours. Well... why you used soap to *wash* the filter instead of proper tool such as Lenspen to clean it? sweat.gif

This post has been edited by vearn27: Sep 30 2011, 07:15 PM
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 07:22 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
I bought mine early June and according to MPA, the Nano-coat is to replace the non Nano-coat version. Hence, new stock will eventually become Nano-coat version after the initial batch/stock of non-Nano cleared. There should be no such thing as selection between Nano and non-Nano in the market because it's more like a revision or replacement.

And at that time of June when I'm asking around, the B+W distro in M'sia yet to carry any Nano version yet.
My box should be exactly the same like both of yours. Well... why you used soap to *wash* the filter instead of proper tool such as Lenspen to clean it? sweat.gif
*
that what we call, *terlebih pandai* i thought wash with soap give a clear filter...
oh mai...my RM 300 + Rm120 just fly like this ..halamakkk
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 07:27 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 30 2011, 07:14 PM)
I bought mine early June and according to MPA, the Nano-coat is to replace the non Nano-coat version. Hence, new stock will eventually become Nano-coat version after the initial batch/stock of non-Nano cleared. There should be no such thing as selection between Nano and non-Nano in the market because it's more like a revision or replacement.

And at that time of June when I'm asking around, the B+W distro in M'sia yet to carry any Nano version yet.
My box should be exactly the same like both of yours. Well... why you used soap to *wash* the filter instead of proper tool such as Lenspen to clean it? sweat.gif
*
I got mine about the same time as yours too! 15/6/10 to be exact haha. That time I was looking for Hoya HD, supplier went out of stock... offered me the XS-Pro as a sweet price for me to try out. Ambik je haha, first thing I noticed is hard to clean doh.gif
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 07:27 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
all these talk of filters and no one talks about the nikon NC ones?
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 07:31 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 07:27 PM)
all these talk of filters and no one talks about the nikon NC ones?
*
aha, the neutral color one rite? as i know, that filter dont have UV.am I rite?
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 07:35 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 30 2011, 07:31 PM)
aha, the neutral color one rite? as i know, that filter dont have UV.am I rite?
*
yes, but UV protection is not needed for digital.
the nikon NC like the name says neutral gives more accurate colors going thru.

celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 07:41 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 07:35 PM)
yes, but UV protection is not needed for digital.
the nikon NC like the name says neutral gives more accurate colors going thru.
*
Not easy to find those actually, last time when I first bought my D90 + 18-105 kit lens. Shop offered me Nikon filter, RM120 I think for 67mm that time newbie straight said no and paid RM80 for a Kenko single layer 67mm UV filter ._. LOL. Damn.
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 08:04 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



so...are the nikon filter are gooding or just use the branded one like b+w?
wanna replace my filter back tongue.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 30 2011, 08:10 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


yes, nikon filters are as good as B+W wan.

but why la worry so much, i doubt it will affect 1% of ur outcome of picture
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 08:11 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 07:41 PM)
Not easy to find those actually, last time when I first bought my D90 + 18-105 kit lens. Shop offered me Nikon filter, RM120 I think for 67mm that time newbie straight said no and paid RM80 for a Kenko single layer 67mm UV filter ._. LOL. Damn.
*
actually its very easy to find in PJ/KL.
around RM260-280 for 77mm.
used ones i seen a couple selling for RM180-RM230 or so.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Sep 30 2011, 08:12 PM
FaezFarhan
post Sep 30 2011, 08:18 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



Anyone using the 20mm f2.8? Is it sharp?
eugene88
post Sep 30 2011, 08:32 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,176 posts

Joined: Sep 2010


If more focal points got what use? eg.(D5100 11 vs D7000 39)
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 08:32 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 08:11 PM)
actually its very easy to find in PJ/KL.
around RM260-280 for 77mm.
used ones i seen a couple selling for RM180-RM230 or so.
*
At that price range, I would go for B+W XS-Pro anytime to be honest. I paid less than that for my XS-Pro back then laugh.gif But now I think about there gua.
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 08:42 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(eugene88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:32 PM)
If more focal points got what use? eg.(D5100 11 vs D7000 39)
*
track faster?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 08:32 PM)
At that price range, I would go for B+W XS-Pro anytime to be honest. I paid less than that for my XS-Pro back then  laugh.gif But now I think about there gua.
*
agree...haha...so next...if wanna buy b+w, need to ask, "ni nano coated ker?" biggrin.gif
eugene88
post Sep 30 2011, 08:47 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,176 posts

Joined: Sep 2010


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 30 2011, 08:42 PM)
track faster?
agree...haha...so next...if wanna buy b+w, need to ask, "ni nano coated ker?" biggrin.gif
*
So if I'm not into Sports Photography,is the extra focus points wasted?
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 08:50 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Sep 30 2011, 08:42 PM)
track faster?
agree...haha...so next...if wanna buy b+w, need to ask, "ni nano coated ker?" biggrin.gif
*
Err... I don't think 'track faster' is the advantage. Advantage is you can precisely focus without the need to recompose. Especially when you need to use AF-C mode.

I think all the new packaging are nano coated.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:47 PM)
So if I'm not into Sports Photography,is the extra focus points wasted?
*
Nope.
iXora.ix
post Sep 30 2011, 08:55 PM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



like this?
user posted image
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 08:59 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Yeah, if you look at the frame it is MRC nano. smile.gif
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 09:17 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(eugene88 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:47 PM)
So if I'm not into Sports Photography,is the extra focus points wasted?
*
generally for sports, ppl will use 9/15/21 etc point AF on AF-C mode, depending on how many cross sensors the body has.
imagine trying to track a very fast moving object with just 1 focus point tongue.gif
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 09:19 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 09:17 PM)
generally for sports, ppl will use 9/15/21 etc point AF on AF-C mode, depending on how many cross sensors the body has.
imagine trying to track a very fast moving object with just 1 focus point tongue.gif
*
A few of the motorsport photog I know uses single point AF. Maybe the cars are big enough and easy to track tongue.gif
TS0168257061
post Sep 30 2011, 09:24 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Sep 30 2011, 08:18 PM)
Anyone using the 20mm f2.8? Is it sharp?
*
sharp at center, corner soft at wide open.
close range focus works superb when closing up until MFD smile.gif

but a lot of people selling is damn expensive,
I also don't know why. rolleyes.gif
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 09:38 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 09:19 PM)
A few of the motorsport photog I know uses single point AF. Maybe the cars are big enough and easy to track tongue.gif
*
yea cars different.
try birds tongue.gif
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 09:46 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 09:38 PM)
yea cars different.
try birds tongue.gif
*
That's birding tongue.gif

But I guess for birding its the AF-C with dynamic focusing... 9 or 15 or 21 etc. Still a single point, but camera automatically refocus to adjacent point if gone out of the actual focus point.
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 09:53 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 30 2011, 09:46 PM)
That's birding tongue.gif

But I guess for birding its the AF-C with dynamic focusing... 9 or 15 or 21 etc. Still a single point, but camera automatically refocus to adjacent point if gone out of the actual focus point.
*
yea, like mentioned.
same with some sports also where the players move in random patterns tongue.gif

iloveOov
post Sep 30 2011, 10:34 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
226 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
spam..

user posted image
hidden830726
post Sep 30 2011, 10:41 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
sigh.reading u ppl talking by all this make me jealous.

Well, i have some funds.

Thinking of buying some second hand lens.

What to buy? trying ot get 17-55, no 1 sell

Wide angle? any advise on DX?
jloi
post Sep 30 2011, 10:51 PM

SHIN-EVOLTO
*******
Senior Member
3,989 posts

Joined: Nov 2009


QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:41 PM)
sigh.reading u ppl talking by all this make me jealous.

Well, i have some funds.

Thinking of buying some second hand lens.

What to buy? trying ot  get 17-55, no 1 sell

Wide angle? any advise on DX?
*
Try Tokina 1116? wink.gif
hidden830726
post Sep 30 2011, 10:57 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 30 2011, 10:51 PM)
Try Tokina 1116? wink.gif
*
Looking for Nikon only. Only 1budget, prefer pro lens or better lens 2nd hand, since i only have 1 budget, need something that can be used most the time.

Something i figure 17-55 will be good, but any other options?

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Sep 30 2011, 10:57 PM
celciuz
post Sep 30 2011, 11:08 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:41 PM)
sigh.reading u ppl talking by all this make me jealous.

Well, i have some funds.

Thinking of buying some second hand lens.

What to buy? trying ot  get 17-55, no 1 sell

Wide angle? any advise on DX?
*
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:57 PM)
Looking for Nikon only. Only 1budget, prefer pro lens or better lens 2nd hand, since i only have 1 budget, need something that can be used most the time.

Something i figure 17-55 will be good, but any other options?
*
Pretty much the best choice if your budget allows. I'm not sure if this is true or not, I remember back then when sending my 70200 VR2 in for warranty due to AF failure I did ask them which lens was the common one having this issue. The person at the counter attending to me told me its the 17-55 f/2.8 and the 18-200 o_O
Everdying
post Sep 30 2011, 11:11 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 10:41 PM)
sigh.reading u ppl talking by all this make me jealous.

Well, i have some funds.

Thinking of buying some second hand lens.

What to buy? trying ot  get 17-55, no 1 sell

Wide angle? any advise on DX?
*
where got 17-55 no one sell?
search properly, i seen a few already this month.
jloi
post Sep 30 2011, 11:17 PM

SHIN-EVOLTO
*******
Senior Member
3,989 posts

Joined: Nov 2009


from my previous usage, tamron 1750 enuf to serve me well on most condition ;/ no money get Nikon 1755 LOL
hidden830726
post Sep 30 2011, 11:52 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 30 2011, 11:11 PM)
where got 17-55 no one sell?
search properly, i seen a few already this month.
*
Sold out pretty fast.
gnome
post Oct 1 2011, 12:17 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Try tokina 16-28mm F2.8! can use with full frame body also laugh.gif
Everdying
post Oct 1 2011, 12:20 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 30 2011, 11:52 PM)
Sold out pretty fast.
*
lol, suddenly the lens back in demand again.
couple months ago got some 17-55 few months also never sell.
tctham
post Oct 1 2011, 12:50 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 30 2011, 08:10 PM)
yes, nikon filters are as good as B+W wan.

but why la worry so much, i doubt it will affect 1% of ur outcome of picture
*
I use some cheap vitacon.. lol~~ tat time noob.. dunno filter for what.. (except to protect my front element).. now that I begin my night photography.. i almost always remove the filter.. not THAT apparent in day-2-day shots.. but long exposure on AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G causes some terrible ghosting.. >_< remove the filter seems to significantly reduce that problem..
iXora.ix
post Oct 1 2011, 12:55 AM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 1 2011, 12:50 AM)
I use some cheap vitacon.. lol~~ tat time noob.. dunno filter for what.. (except to protect my front element).. now that I begin my night photography.. i almost always remove the filter.. not THAT apparent in day-2-day shots.. but long exposure on AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G causes some terrible ghosting.. >_< remove the filter seems to significantly reduce that problem..
*
sometimes, i think its not because of the filter. it's about lens...
maybe 35mm f/1.8 ghosting are really bad -,-
tctham
post Oct 1 2011, 12:59 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 1 2011, 12:55 AM)
sometimes, i think its not because of the filter. it's about lens...
maybe 35mm f/1.8 ghosting are really bad -,-
*
can't disagree with the ghosting of the 35mm.. it's just... baaaadd~~ but i still love that lens.. smile.gif the kit lens is sort of my... wide angle lens for group photo or tight fit landscape.. else i'd use the 35mm anytime.. haha~ the ghosting of the lens is bad.. but with the filter on, it's horrendous.. if taking pictures with direct light source.. i SERIOUSLY recommend removing the filter.. it helps ALOT.. before i removed the filter.. any light source will definitely have ghost effects.. but if w/o filter it's much better~
FaezFarhan
post Oct 1 2011, 04:10 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 30 2011, 09:24 PM)
sharp at center, corner soft at wide open.
close range focus works superb when closing up until MFD smile.gif

but a lot of people selling is damn expensive,
I also don't know why.  rolleyes.gif
*
I see, it gets sharp at what aperture?

Btw, about D700's focusing, is it more accurate than the D7000? hmm.gif
iXora.ix
post Oct 1 2011, 07:33 AM

scoot scoot
******
Senior Member
1,682 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: Kuala Lumpur



QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 1 2011, 12:59 AM)
can't disagree with the ghosting of the 35mm.. it's just... baaaadd~~ but i still love that lens.. smile.gif the kit lens is sort of my... wide angle lens for group photo or tight fit landscape.. else i'd use the 35mm anytime.. haha~ the ghosting of the lens is bad.. but with the filter on, it's horrendous.. if taking pictures with direct light source.. i SERIOUSLY recommend removing the filter.. it helps ALOT.. before i removed the filter.. any light source will definitely have ghost effects.. but if w/o filter it's much better~
*
haha... i use b+w filter, also still got ghost..
hmmm...need consider buy 50mm f/1.4 rclxms.gif
tctham
post Oct 1 2011, 12:13 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Oct 1 2011, 07:33 AM)
haha... i use b+w filter, also still got ghost..
hmmm...need consider buy 50mm f/1.4 rclxms.gif
*
haha~ even without the filter, still got ghost.. i guess it's just the lens.. sad.gif

got what events coming up lately ar? i heard my friend say today is Police open day.. at dataran merdeka.. can go there shake hand wor~ haha not sure real or not
freddy manson
post Oct 1 2011, 02:11 PM

ðñê hêll ð£ å gµ¥
*******
Senior Member
4,858 posts

Joined: Jun 2006
From: Tawau, Sabah



QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 1 2011, 12:17 AM)
Try tokina 16-28mm F2.8! can use with full frame body also laugh.gif
*
sad when they discontinued the awesome 1650 f2.8 cry.gif
such a handsome lens~
celciuz
post Oct 1 2011, 02:14 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(freddy manson @ Oct 1 2011, 02:11 PM)
sad when they discontinued the awesome 1650 f2.8  cry.gif
such a handsome lens~
*
There's the Sigma OS version right? Heard good reviews about it or at least focusing should be more reliable than Tamron.
hihihehe
post Oct 1 2011, 05:33 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
13,789 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: stress & confuse world



trying to take food picture under low light and it looks bad to me. need to learn how to find a good angle...
tctham
post Oct 1 2011, 06:26 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 1 2011, 05:33 PM)
trying to take food picture under low light and it looks bad to me. need to learn how to find a good angle...
*
share when you have good angle.. i try to take from 45 degrees.. but if i do that with the f/1.8-f/2.8.. lots of the food will be OOF.. >_< then i finally resort to f/5.6 >_< unless it's a top to down angle.. (then there's that damn shadow.. fffuuu~
rEktOr
post Oct 1 2011, 06:36 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
377 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hulu Langat



which should i buy guys? tokina 12-24 or tamron 10-24? reviews suggest tokina..should i sacrifice that 2mm?
gnome
post Oct 1 2011, 07:39 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Damn today kena racun kaw2 by my friend father...he's one of the Canon Msia ambassador so can get a pretty good deal on body and lenses. Damn tempting siaaaaaaa drool.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

too bad no funds though laugh.gif
celciuz
post Oct 1 2011, 08:19 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Sell your gears then buy it then and see how long you last xD
Isepunye
post Oct 1 2011, 09:45 PM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
cincin by IsePunye, on Flickr
tctham
post Oct 1 2011, 10:18 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 1 2011, 08:19 PM)
Sell your gears then buy it then and see how long you last xD
*
then if dun like then how?? hahaha
mybiebie
post Oct 1 2011, 11:16 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,419 posts

Joined: Oct 2007
buy both nikon and canon solved all problems.

TS0168257061
post Oct 1 2011, 11:19 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 1 2011, 10:18 PM)
then if dun like then how?? hahaha
*
camera is just a tool lah,
use what u like wink.gif
after all, even people using 18-55 kit lens also produce good image.

RobustRobot
post Oct 1 2011, 11:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
164 posts

Joined: May 2010
sb700, would u all recommend this flash instead of the more powerful sb900?

opinion needed, im quite aware that this flash priced around 900+ - atm.. right?

any good place to buy these flash or shud i go for the dealer in this LYN thread? TQ :0
sokdotcom
post Oct 1 2011, 11:45 PM

sokdotcom
******
Senior Member
1,122 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya


sb900 wins hands down. been using it with my d5100.. fantastic.. 1400

please dun need to discuss canon here.
celciuz
post Oct 1 2011, 11:58 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 1 2011, 10:18 PM)
then if dun like then how?? hahaha
*
Well, a friend of mine jumped from D300 to 5Dmk2, used for a bit then sold off and jumped back to D700. AF system pissed him off.
Isepunye
post Oct 2 2011, 12:27 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


QUOTE(RobustRobot @ Oct 1 2011, 11:42 PM)
sb700, would u all recommend this flash instead of the more powerful sb900?

opinion needed, im quite aware that this flash priced around 900+ - atm.. right?

any good place to buy these flash or shud i go for the dealer in this LYN thread? TQ :0
*
IMHO SB700 is a good flash. for normal power ratio, i prefer sb700 as its superlight weight. sb900 damn heavy but juicy light. my frens just been poison by me and want to sell off his sb600 haha. i teach him how to use manual flash, and a bit, then he totally poison tongue.gif
FaezFarhan
post Oct 2 2011, 12:41 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



Street price of D700 in KL? Btw, a shop here is selling used 85mm f/1.4, the previous owner used it for less that 6 months, his reason for selling was too tight for indoor during weddings. It's for only RM3600, should I get it? I'm scared that he dropped it or something before. What should I check if I wanna buy?
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 01:46 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 1 2011, 11:58 PM)
Well, a friend of mine jumped from D300 to 5Dmk2, used for a bit then sold off and jumped back to D700. AF system pissed him off.
*
lulz~ sad.. lucky i all time nikon fan.. lurve my d5100 smile.gif (at least for dslr.. for P&S i took something else.. hehehe)


Added on October 2, 2011, 1:47 am
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 12:41 AM)
Street price of D700 in KL? Btw, a shop here is selling used 85mm f/1.4, the previous owner used it for less that 6 months, his reason for selling was too tight for indoor during weddings. It's for only RM3600, should I get it? I'm scared that he dropped it or something before. What should I check if I wanna buy?
*
TS mentioned this at post #1..


QUOTE(0168257061 @ Sep 21 2011, 04:31 PM)
Second hand lens/dslr buying guide.

Credits to : zrasang
Firstly, check the outlook for both Body and Lens, if you're happy with it, then proceed to the next stepsssss.  cool2.gif

For the Body:
1. check the Shutter Count, the lower the SC, the better it is, just like a car's milage. Google has a clearer explanation.
2. if the Body has motor and top LCD, make sure they both work well, it's sux if the motor doesn't work, it's sux if the top LCD can't light up.
3. test the Body with various memory cards, you don't want to have error while shooting, don't you? (sometimes it's the memory card that give trouble)
4. test Continuous shoot, will the shutter jam?  rclxub.gif
5. basically you'll have to test everything, every single functions and settings of the body, like ISO, pop-up flash, the condition of hot shoe, the buttons etc etc

As for the lens:
1. it's important that the rubber is still firm.
2. make sure it works on more than ONE Bodies.
3. play with aperture, the zoom if it has, play with it like a toy.
4. if the lens got dust and fungus inside, you can send it for cleaning.
5. if the contact points are dirty, gently use eraser to clean it.
6. if the lens is AF-S, make sure the motor inside is silent while auto focusing, no loud squeaky sound.

what else?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Remember, these are based on my personal experiences, correct me if I'm wrong  notworthy.gif
*
This post has been edited by tctham: Oct 2 2011, 01:47 AM
Isepunye
post Oct 2 2011, 01:50 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
rafiqi & Farhana 1 by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on October 2, 2011, 2:15 amuser posted image
Rafiqi & Farhana 2 by IsePunye, on Flickr

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Oct 2 2011, 02:15 AM
piscesguy
post Oct 2 2011, 07:52 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
user posted image

Curious look?
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 09:27 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 12:41 AM)
Street price of D700 in KL? Btw, a shop here is selling used 85mm f/1.4, the previous owner used it for less that 6 months, his reason for selling was too tight for indoor during weddings. It's for only RM3600, should I get it? I'm scared that he dropped it or something before. What should I check if I wanna buy?
*
85mm f/1.4G or D? My friend whose a wedding photog uses 85mm f/1.4G indoors a lot lol. He's on D3, FX sensor maybe that guy selling was on DX... back when I used 85G on D90 also felt pekcek indoors.
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 09:27 AM)
85mm f/1.4G or D? My friend whose a wedding photog uses 85mm f/1.4G indoors a lot lol. He's on D3, FX sensor maybe that guy selling was on DX... back when I used 85G on D90 also felt pekcek indoors.
*
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g? rolleyes.gif
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 09:47 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM)
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g?  rolleyes.gif
*
Yes, but question is when. laugh.gif
TS0168257061
post Oct 2 2011, 10:38 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM)
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g?  rolleyes.gif
*
eventually nikon will release all their lens in af-s in future.
like celciuz say when ? haha

its quite a bit slow for nikon change the entire from AF-D to AF-S series.
a.ihsan
post Oct 2 2011, 10:39 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
248 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Kelana Jaya


QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM)
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g?  rolleyes.gif
*
they have to. might be next year though.
FaezFarhan
post Oct 2 2011, 10:45 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 09:27 AM)
85mm f/1.4G or D? My friend whose a wedding photog uses 85mm f/1.4G indoors a lot lol. He's on D3, FX sensor maybe that guy selling was on DX... back when I used 85G on D90 also felt pekcek indoors.
*
G! At only RM3600, probably the shop owner is giving me a good price since I know him well. His giving out free Hoya HD as well. Wonder should I get it or not. But my dad is against me at buying the 2nd hand lens hmm.gif
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 11:10 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
Need to check thoroughly... and is the shop keeper reliable? But if you know him well then should be ok.

Ala, beli je!

See can do such bokeh,
user posted image
Calen by CY Pixels, on Flickr

=P
geekster129
post Oct 2 2011, 11:14 AM

Janitor
******
Senior Member
1,180 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: *awaiting GPS accuracy*



All camera salesman should poison people like how celciuz did. brows.gif tongue.gif
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 11:22 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 11:10 AM)
Need to check thoroughly... and is the shop keeper reliable? But if you know him well then should be ok.

Ala, beli je!

See can do such bokeh,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


=P
*
zomg!!

this is the reason why i ask about the af-s 85mm 1.8g.. sad.gif feel like want that focal length and aperture.. but on d5100 the only viable choice is the f/3.5g(not fast enough) or the f/1.4g (too expensive) and lastly, the existing f/1.8d does not focus on my d5100.. sad.gif
QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 2 2011, 11:14 AM)
All camera salesman should poison people like how celciuz did. brows.gif tongue.gif
*
yalo.. zzzz~ i kena poison gao gao by celciuz di.. rawr~~~


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 09:47 AM)
Yes, but question is when.  laugh.gif
*
QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 2 2011, 10:38 AM)
eventually nikon will release all their lens in af-s in future.
like celciuz say when ? haha

its quite a bit slow for nikon change the entire from AF-D to AF-S series.
*
QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Oct 2 2011, 10:39 AM)
they have to. might be next year though.
*
ya lor~~ when~~ >_< hopefully by next year.. smile.gif then i shud start saving now.. hope it's not TOO expensive.. sad.gif limited budget.. baru quit job somemore..
FaezFarhan
post Oct 2 2011, 11:31 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 11:10 AM)
Need to check thoroughly... and is the shop keeper reliable? But if you know him well then should be ok.

Ala, beli je!

See can do such bokeh,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

=P
*
He's usually reliable, but I'm worried about the previous owner. Scared he dropped it or something before, that's why he's selling it cheap. Will go and try the lens first.

Omg do you know you are the reason that I'm buying the 85! shakehead.gif Ahahahaha. Poisoned since the Kyra series thumbup.gif
BenSow
post Oct 2 2011, 12:59 PM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


My friend said he heard around people saying because of the way Nikon assemble cameras, when you knock them the components inside the camera fall out easier than canon o.o How true is this?
vearn27
post Oct 2 2011, 01:03 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 11:31 AM)
He's usually reliable, but I'm worried about the previous owner. Scared he dropped it or something before, that's why he's selling it cheap. Will go and try the lens first.

Omg do you know you are the reason that I'm buying the 85!  shakehead.gif Ahahahaha. Poisoned since the Kyra series  thumbup.gif
*
Haha... why not poison-ed by celciuz's skill instead of the gear? Nanti gears semacam, gambar masih berlainan lagi tongue.gif *** no offense ya ***
hidden830726
post Oct 2 2011, 01:11 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:03 PM)
Haha... why not poison-ed by celciuz's skill instead of the gear? Nanti gears semacam, gambar masih berlainan lagi tongue.gif *** no offense ya ***
*
haha i laugh so hard for the quote: "Gear semacam, Gambar Berlain."
a.ihsan
post Oct 2 2011, 01:36 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
248 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Kelana Jaya


QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 2 2011, 12:59 PM)
My friend said he heard around people saying because of the way Nikon assemble cameras, when you knock them the components inside the camera fall out easier than canon o.o How true is this?
*
if that is true I think most pros would switch cameras more often than they change clothes my friend!
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 01:40 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:03 PM)
Haha... why not poison-ed by celciuz's skill instead of the gear? Nanti gears semacam, gambar masih berlainan lagi tongue.gif *** no offense ya ***
*
zomg~ ngapa patahkan motivasiku??
Everdying
post Oct 2 2011, 01:50 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 09:36 AM)
do you think nikon will come up with a af-s 85mm 1.8g?  rolleyes.gif
*
sure eventually come out, question is will u buy it at the price it comes at out?
i'm guessing it'll be around rm1.7k once released.
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 2 2011, 01:50 PM)
sure eventually come out, question is will u buy it at the price it comes at out?
i'm guessing it'll be around rm1.7k once released.
*
less than 2k, i can still afford to sapu le~ if like those 17-55 / 70-200 region.. i cannot afford.. sad.gif
Everdying
post Oct 2 2011, 01:59 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM)
less than 2k, i can still afford to sapu le~ if like those 17-55 / 70-200 region.. i cannot afford.. sad.gif
*
if i was u, right now just go out buy 2nd hand 85mm 1.8d, around rm1.1k.
else brand new also rm1450 only tongue.gif
vearn27
post Oct 2 2011, 02:05 PM

Doink! Doink! Doink!
*******
Senior Member
7,284 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Hong Kong / Malaysia




QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 01:40 PM)
zomg~ ngapa patahkan motivasiku??
*
We need to be in reality. That's what happening to the photography culture at the moment. Many people (but not all) thought they could produce the same quality given they're using the same gears. Even better photos when they're on better gears. We certainly need to straighten this out. I'm not saying you or anyone is one, but we shouldn't lack or only focusing in gears than building own skills. That should be what counts the most before even better gears. My 2 cents smile.gif

QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 01:55 PM)
less than 2k, i can still afford to sapu le~ if like those 17-55 / 70-200 region.. i cannot afford.. sad.gif
*
You shouldn't compare different type of lenses like that. Each that you mentioned above has different focal lengths and arguably different superiority in different situation. I would suggest you to look at what you need than what you can afford.
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 02:11 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 2 2011, 01:59 PM)
if i was u, right now just go out buy 2nd hand 85mm 1.8d, around rm1.1k.
else brand new also rm1450 only tongue.gif
*
the 85mm 1.8d cannot auto focus on my body (d5100) if i'm not mistaken.. sad.gif
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:05 PM)
We need to be in reality. That's what happening to the photography culture at the moment. Many people (but not all) thought they could produce the same quality given they're using the same gears. Even better photos when they're on better gears. We certainly need to straighten this out. I'm not saying you or anyone is one, but we shouldn't lack or only focusing in gears than building own skills. That should be what counts the most before even better gears. My 2 cents smile.gif
You shouldn't compare different type of lenses like that. Each that you mentioned above has different focal lengths and arguably different superiority in different situation. I would suggest you to look at what you need than what you can afford.
*
I looking for a longer reach for portrait.. also looking for a tele.. 70-300.. i know the two that i listed are great lens.. we pay for what we get.. since i cannot really get those lens for now.. i think i just use those budget ones lu~~ and i know there will be a difference in quality in that as well.. i just using an example of those lenses that i cannot afford at this moment of time. if they release the af-s 85mm 1.8g at that price, then i really have to look at other alternatives edi.. that was what i meant.. not trying to compare the 85 mm against the 17-55/70-200.. all of them diff category anywayz~ (portrait / standard zoom / tele)..

sorry for any confusion caused.. >_<

TS0168257061
post Oct 2 2011, 02:13 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:11 PM)
the 85mm 1.8d cannot auto focus on my body (d5100) if i'm not mistaken.. sad.gif

I looking for a longer reach for portrait.. also looking for a tele.. 70-300.. i know the two that i listed are great lens.. we pay for what we get.. since i cannot really get those lens for now.. i think i just use those budget ones lu~~ and i know there will be a difference in quality in that as well.. i just using an example of those lenses that i cannot afford at this moment of time. if they release the af-s 85mm 1.8g at that price, then i really have to look at other alternatives edi.. that was what i meant.. not trying to compare the 85 mm against the 17-55/70-200.. all of them diff category anywayz~ (portrait / standard zoom / tele)..

sorry for any confusion caused.. >_<
*
portrait lens you can use 70-300mm,
shooting at 200mm i can quite assure you have nice outcome smile.gif
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 02:16 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:13 PM)
portrait lens you can use 70-300mm,
shooting at 200mm i can quite assure you have nice outcome  smile.gif
*
Thanks~ speaking of the 70-300.. sorry if i spark up old debates/questions again.. my friend recommend me the Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD.. what do you guys think? the tamron? or the few years older nikon? cause I think the tamron should have some improvement during those time gap.. but i still have some uneasiness over 3rd party lens as opposed to nikkor lens.. (that and also the resell value)
Everdying
post Oct 2 2011, 02:30 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:11 PM)
the 85mm 1.8d cannot auto focus on my body (d5100) if i'm not mistaken.. sad.gif

I looking for a longer reach for portrait.. also looking for a tele.. 70-300.. i know the two that i listed are great lens.. we pay for what we get.. since i cannot really get those lens for now.. i think i just use those budget ones lu~~ and i know there will be a difference in quality in that as well.. i just using an example of those lenses that i cannot afford at this moment of time. if they release the af-s 85mm 1.8g at that price, then i really have to look at other alternatives edi.. that was what i meant.. not trying to compare the 85 mm against the 17-55/70-200.. all of them diff category anywayz~ (portrait / standard zoom / tele)..

sorry for any confusion caused.. >_<
*
oh, u got D5100...
then just go get the 50mm 1.8G.

longer reach for portrait, uhhh 55-300mm and stand far far back.
remember to buy walkie talkies also biggrin.gif
tctham
post Oct 2 2011, 02:41 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 2 2011, 02:30 PM)
oh, u got D5100...
then just go get the 50mm 1.8G.

longer reach for portrait, uhhh 55-300mm and stand far far back.
remember to buy walkie talkies also biggrin.gif
*
i edi have the 35mm 1.8g.. was thinking of something further.. (hehehe~ i have this "thing" towards prime.. hahaha~)

the tele is useful for some other events as well.. (like in bird park or etc) haha~
engseng
post Oct 2 2011, 04:31 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,981 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Malaysia


Is Nikon going to showcase the Nikon mirrorless cameras at the KLPF this weekend?
FaezFarhan
post Oct 2 2011, 04:34 PM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:03 PM)
Haha... why not poison-ed by celciuz's skill instead of the gear? Nanti gears semacam, gambar masih berlainan lagi tongue.gif *** no offense ya ***
*
Of mainly by his potrait skill. He's the otai of potraits here brows.gif

Why I want a 85 1.4? No matter how good my skill is, I can't use a Tamron 17-50 to produce pics like that can I? tongue.gif
Everdying
post Oct 2 2011, 05:01 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:41 PM)
i edi have the 35mm 1.8g.. was thinking of something further.. (hehehe~ i have this "thing" towards prime.. hahaha~)

the tele is useful for some other events as well.. (like in bird park or etc) haha~
*
buy used AF-D 180mm f/2.8, settle biggrin.gif
zm__
post Oct 2 2011, 05:32 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
92 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Klang
fuhhhh, how long i never come to this tered XD
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 11:22 AM)
zomg!!

this is the reason why i ask about the af-s 85mm 1.8g.. feel like want that focal length and aperture.. but on d5100 the only viable choice is the f/3.5g(not fast enough) or the f/1.4g (too expensive) and lastly, the existing f/1.8d does not focus on my d5100..

yalo.. zzzz~ i kena poison gao gao by celciuz di.. rawr~~~
ya lor~~ when~~ >_< hopefully by next year.. then i shud start saving now.. hope it's not TOO expensive.. limited budget.. baru quit job somemore..
*
I don't think it will be a good deal like the AF-D judging from the 50mm f/1.8D to 50mm f/1.8G kinda differences :S

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 11:31 AM)
He's usually reliable, but I'm worried about the previous owner. Scared he dropped it or something before, that's why he's selling it cheap. Will go and try the lens first.

Omg do you know you are the reason that I'm buying the 85!  shakehead.gif Ahahahaha. Poisoned since the Kyra series  thumbup.gif
*
Which one? brows.gif
D90,
user posted image
Kyra by CY Pixels, on Flickr

D700,
user posted image
Kyra by CY Pixels, on Flickr

QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 2 2011, 12:59 PM)
My friend said he heard around people saying because of the way Nikon assemble cameras, when you knock them the components inside the camera fall out easier than canon o.o How true is this?
*
Sauce? cool.gif

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 01:03 PM)
Haha... why not poison-ed by celciuz's skill instead of the gear? Nanti gears semacam, gambar masih berlainan lagi tongue.gif *** no offense ya ***
*
LOL, won't la... sure can do it one!

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:05 PM)
We need to be in reality. That's what happening to the photography culture at the moment. Many people (but not all) thought they could produce the same quality given they're using the same gears. Even better photos when they're on better gears. We certainly need to straighten this out. I'm not saying you or anyone is one, but we shouldn't lack or only focusing in gears than building own skills. That should be what counts the most before even better gears. My 2 cents smile.gif
You shouldn't compare different type of lenses like that. Each that you mentioned above has different focal lengths and arguably different superiority in different situation. I would suggest you to look at what you need than what you can afford.
*
Actually, I think I developed different style when I started using different lens and gears... From D90 --> D700, lens of different ranges.. my style changed since I first shooting...

QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:11 PM)
the 85mm 1.8d cannot auto focus on my body (d5100) if i'm not mistaken.. sad.gif

I looking for a longer reach for portrait.. also looking for a tele.. 70-300.. i know the two that i listed are great lens.. we pay for what we get.. since i cannot really get those lens for now.. i think i just use those budget ones lu~~ and i know there will be a difference in quality in that as well.. i just using an example of those lenses that i cannot afford at this moment of time. if they release the af-s 85mm 1.8g at that price, then i really have to look at other alternatives edi.. that was what i meant.. not trying to compare the 85 mm against the 17-55/70-200.. all of them diff category anywayz~ (portrait / standard zoom / tele)..

sorry for any confusion caused.. >_<
*
Portrait lens is a well... I think it is more of a bokeh lens LOL. But, wide angles, zoom lens etc all can do portrait as well, just without the bokeh subject isolation.

QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 2 2011, 02:16 PM)
Thanks~ speaking of the 70-300.. sorry if i spark up old debates/questions again.. my friend recommend me the Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD.. what do you guys think? the tamron? or the few years older nikon? cause I think the tamron should have some improvement during those time gap.. but i still have some uneasiness over 3rd party lens as opposed to nikkor lens.. (that and also the resell value)
*
Used the Canon mount on 7D, seems pretty good IMO.

QUOTE(engseng @ Oct 2 2011, 04:31 PM)
Is Nikon going to showcase the Nikon mirrorless cameras at the KLPF this weekend?
*
Based on their FB page, yes.

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 04:34 PM)
Of mainly by his potrait skill. He's the otai of potraits here brows.gif

Why I want a 85 1.4? No matter how good my skill is, I can't use a Tamron 17-50 to produce pics like that can I? tongue.gif
*
If you are referring to the subject isolation aka bokeh, no way. tongue.gif. Even the 70200 VR2 only comes close, but the bokeh a little diff. One is due to big aperture, f/1.4, another is the focal length, 200mm.

QUOTE(zm__ @ Oct 2 2011, 05:32 PM)
fuhhhh, how long i never come to this tered XD
*
Welcome back to the dark side thread.
TS0168257061
post Oct 2 2011, 08:27 PM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


super duper isolation -> 200mm f/2 brows.gif

but then 85mm either 1.4 / 1.8 used by more non industrial photographer. cheaper is one of the reason.
Bliz
post Oct 2 2011, 09:58 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,734 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Melaka


QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 10:45 AM)
G! At only RM3600, probably the shop owner is giving me a good price since I know him well. His giving out free Hoya HD as well. Wonder should I get it or not. But my dad is against me at buying the 2nd hand lens  hmm.gif
*
Rm3600 is a steal! Just go and get it, I got mine at RM3800 last time drool.gif
gnome
post Oct 2 2011, 11:01 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Tired! spend the whole day at sepang today but luckily the weather not so hot thumbup.gif

spam abit tongue.gif

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

Didnt took alot of lenglui photos because i was really really tired when they were on grid sweat.gif laugh.gif
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 11:27 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 2 2011, 11:01 PM)
Tired! spend the whole day at sepang today but luckily the weather not so hot thumbup.gif

spam abit tongue.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Didnt took alot of lenglui photos because i was really really tired when they were on grid sweat.gif  laugh.gif
*
Nice shot! biggrin.gif Damn... I envy you guys getting to shoot inside track itself... sigh... any lubang for sepang motorsport where I can gain pass inside? Don't care what event also can. Bored of grandstand view sad.gif
gnome
post Oct 2 2011, 11:36 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 11:27 PM)
Nice shot! biggrin.gif Damn... I envy you guys getting to shoot inside track itself... sigh... any lubang for sepang motorsport where I can gain pass inside? Don't care what event also can. Bored of grandstand view sad.gif
*
For MSS (Malaysian Supersport Series) you can get the photog vest+media pass with RM50 deposit only! once returned the vest they will give back your monies biggrin.gif. MSS got car and bike races but today abit special since Ferrari Challenge Asia Pacific doing their rounds, theirs the one who has alot of lenglui one. Normally you'd be lucky if there's are grid girl in MSS laugh.gif

I went today with my friend, his brother one of the racer in the superbike series and he the one who help me with the vest and all thumbup.gif laugh.gif
celciuz
post Oct 2 2011, 11:48 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 2 2011, 11:36 PM)
For MSS (Malaysian Supersport Series) you can get the photog vest+media pass with RM50 deposit only! once returned the vest they will give back your monies biggrin.gif. MSS got car and bike races but today abit special since Ferrari Challenge Asia Pacific doing their rounds, theirs the one who has alot of lenglui one. Normally you'd be lucky if there's are grid girl in MSS laugh.gif

I went today with my friend, his brother one of the racer in the superbike series and he the one who help me with the vest and all thumbup.gif  laugh.gif
*
How do I apply for this? I don't have any any publishing or whatsoever... last I know those events such as F1, MotoGP, SuperGT etc all require publication. Maybe will try for next year perhaps.. this year most events over jor T_T... MotoGP impossible to get ._. more strict that even SuperGT.
gnome
post Oct 2 2011, 11:57 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 11:48 PM)
How do I apply for this? I don't have any any publishing or whatsoever... last I know those events such as F1, MotoGP, SuperGT etc all require publication. Maybe will try for next year perhaps.. this year most events over jor T_T... MotoGP impossible to get ._. more strict that even SuperGT.
*
Im not sure how aswell, will try to ask my friend about it. IIRC have to contact SIC official or something. Today saw alot of people taking photos compared to previous race, probably because of the Ferrari Challenge i guess laugh.gif

According to my friend who was race official once, he said F1 was the hardest event to get a photog vest. They'll do a background check on you and like you said need to be from some publication and such. MotoGP and SuperGT im not sure but heard SuperGT to get the vest you have to pay like RM700 or something (if have lubang)...not sure true or not though rclxub.gif
TS0168257061
post Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


F1 is the hardest,
even you can go in this year, doesn't mean next year you can...

actually celciuz, why don't try on hillstand ?
celciuz
post Oct 3 2011, 12:29 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 2 2011, 11:57 PM)
Im not sure how aswell, will try to ask my friend about it. IIRC have to contact SIC official or something. Today saw alot of people taking photos compared to previous race, probably because of the Ferrari Challenge i guess laugh.gif

According to my friend who was race official once, he said F1 was the hardest event to get a photog vest. They'll do a background check on you and like you said need to be from some publication and such. MotoGP and SuperGT im not sure but heard SuperGT to get the vest you have to pay like RM700 or something (if have lubang)...not sure true or not though rclxub.gif
*
Yeah, the paid media. But to get the free pass, you need to have publication. MotoGP and F1 more or less equally tough, since both are international events.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM)
F1 is the hardest,
even you can go in this year, doesn't mean next year you can...

actually celciuz, why don't try on hillstand ?
*
Hmm... let's see.. maybe for motogp... any samples of the views from hillstand?
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 12:34 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
I don't think it will be a good deal like the AF-D judging from the 50mm f/1.8D to 50mm f/1.8G kinda differences :S
Which one?  brows.gif
D90,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


D700,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Sauce?  cool.gif
LOL, won't la... sure can do it one!
Actually, I think I developed different style when I started using different lens and gears... From D90 --> D700, lens of different ranges.. my style changed since I first shooting...
Portrait lens is a well... I think it is more of a bokeh lens LOL. But, wide angles, zoom lens etc all can do portrait as well, just without the bokeh subject isolation.
Used the Canon mount on 7D, seems pretty good IMO.
Based on their FB page, yes.
If you are referring to the subject isolation aka bokeh, no way. tongue.gif. Even the 70200 VR2 only comes close, but the bokeh a little diff. One is due to big aperture, f/1.4, another is the focal length, 200mm.
Welcome back to the dark side thread.
*
Once again, nice picts.. smile.gif soooo poisoned by you.. hahahaha~~

I guess it's true.. i love the bokeh effect...

about the tamron, previously i follow you all de discussion, you all got talk about some tamron lenses passed away after 3 years while the nikon is still alive and kicking.. is this a major issue if i were to go for the tamron 70-300?

This post has been edited by tctham: Oct 3 2011, 12:38 AM
Isepunye
post Oct 3 2011, 12:34 AM

world famous isepunye
*******
Senior Member
2,537 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: Bangi


user posted image
Nana & John by IsePunye, on Flickr


Added on October 3, 2011, 12:51 ambtw, this photo was shoot at f7.1. who said when using tele F2.8 we didnt use F7.1?

This post has been edited by Isepunye: Oct 3 2011, 12:51 AM
FaezFarhan
post Oct 3 2011, 02:12 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
Which one?  brows.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Sauce?  cool.gif
If you are referring to the subject isolation aka bokeh, no way. tongue.gif. Even the 70200 VR2 only comes close, but the bokeh a little diff. One is due to big aperture, f/1.4, another is the focal length, 200mm.
*
Omg D700 cry.gif The D90 + 85 looks kinda flat right? Probably because of the range, tele-like perspective.

Yeah that was my point. If you have awesome skill but lousy gear, you won't get awesome pictures, you will only probably get good pictures. To get pictures like that, I have to own a lens that can produce amazing bokeh. My friend who just started photography bought a 5D MKII + 200mm 2.8L. His pictures in spoiler below

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 2 2011, 09:58 PM)
Rm3600 is a steal! Just go and get it, I got mine at RM3800 last time  drool.gif
*
Yours was like-new condition as well right? How long did the previous owner used it for?
razuryza
post Oct 3 2011, 02:49 AM

\('o')/~fewwwiitttt~\("0")/
*******
Senior Member
5,515 posts

Joined: Jan 2006


no need bokeh also can do portrait wonders lah
FaezFarhan
post Oct 3 2011, 03:44 AM

United till I die!
*******
Senior Member
3,435 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Kota Bharu



QUOTE(razuryza @ Oct 3 2011, 02:49 AM)
no need bokeh also can do portrait wonders lah
*
Good point too but every user have their own preferences. For me bokeh is like a mustfor potraits. It makes the pic look classy and the subject stands out smile.gif
celciuz
post Oct 3 2011, 05:40 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,035 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 12:34 AM)
Once again, nice picts.. smile.gif soooo poisoned by you.. hahahaha~~

I guess it's true.. i love the bokeh effect...

about the tamron, previously i follow you all de discussion, you all got talk about some tamron lenses passed away after 3 years while the nikon is still alive and kicking.. is this a major issue if i were to go for the tamron 70-300?
*
Just FYI, my 70200 VR2 AF died just before warranty ended. And its a pro grade Nikkor lens too! Sometimes its just luck...

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Oct 3 2011, 12:34 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



Added on October 3, 2011, 12:51 ambtw, this photo was shoot at f7.1. who said when using tele F2.8 we didnt use F7.1?
*
I use 70200 f/2.8 and shoot close to f/22 at times also la...

*motorsport that is* hahaha!

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2011, 02:12 AM)
Omg D700  cry.gif The D90 + 85 looks kinda flat right? Probably because of the range, tele-like perspective.

Yeah that was my point. If you have awesome skill but lousy gear, you won't get awesome pictures, you will only probably get good pictures. To get pictures like that, I have to own a lens that can produce amazing bokeh. My friend who just started photography bought a 5D MKII + 200mm 2.8L. His pictures in spoiler below

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Yours was like-new condition as well right? How long did the previous owner used it for?
*
Not exactly flat I would say, its a little different. I prefer the 85mm on FX. Due to the distance differences, it yield different bokeh. Go closer and it won't be as 'flat' as you think tongue.gif
user posted image
Little Nyonya by CY Pixels, on Flickr

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2011, 03:44 AM)
Good point too but every user have their own preferences. For me bokeh is like a mustfor potraits. It makes the pic look classy and the subject stands out smile.gif
*
Sometimes the highlights might drive you crazy... tongue.gif taking attention away from your subject cry.gif
piscesguy
post Oct 3 2011, 06:45 AM

私の名前はりゅうです
*******
Senior Member
3,963 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
user posted image

She is rushing to see her boyfriend.. tongue.gif
TS0168257061
post Oct 3 2011, 08:05 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 3 2011, 03:44 AM)
Good point too but every user have their own preferences. For me bokeh is like a mustfor potraits. It makes the pic look classy and the subject stands out smile.gif
*
user posted image

share from canon thread.

no need bokeh also can smile.gif
ifer
post Oct 3 2011, 09:39 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,637 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 10:45 AM)
G! At only RM3600, probably the shop owner is giving me a good price since I know him well. His giving out free Hoya HD as well. Wonder should I get it or not. But my dad is against me at buying the 2nd hand lens  hmm.gif
*
woah that is cheap leh.
should get... don't think too much hehee
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 10:13 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 3 2011, 05:40 AM)
Just FYI, my 70200 VR2 AF died just before warranty ended. And its a pro grade Nikkor lens too! Sometimes its just luck...
I use 70200 f/2.8 and shoot close to f/22 at times also la...

*motorsport that is* hahaha!
Not exactly flat I would say, its a little different. I prefer the 85mm on FX. Due to the distance differences, it yield different bokeh. Go closer and it won't be as 'flat' as you think tongue.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Sometimes the highlights might drive you crazy... tongue.gif taking attention away from your subject  cry.gif
*
ok la.. i start saving now.. hehehe~ if the af-s 85mm f/1.8g not out by the time i have the cash for tamron 70-300, i will buy the tamron instead.. smile.gif thanks for all the teachings.. smile.gif
Everdying
post Oct 3 2011, 10:37 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 10:13 AM)
ok la.. i start saving now.. hehehe~ if the af-s 85mm f/1.8g not out by the time i have the cash for tamron 70-300, i will buy the tamron instead.. smile.gif thanks for all the teachings.. smile.gif
*
why dont want nikon 70-300vr?
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 10:48 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 3 2011, 10:37 AM)
why dont want nikon 70-300vr?
*
friend recommend de.. he also nikon user.. he told me.. nikon is good.. but the time gap between them.. the tamron should be decent cause it's consider newly released? a year ago? what think you? any advice for me?

Everdying
post Oct 3 2011, 10:57 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 10:48 AM)
friend recommend de.. he also nikon user.. he told me.. nikon is good.. but the time gap between them.. the tamron should be decent cause it's consider newly released? a year ago? what think you? any advice for me?
*
i never tried tamron, and not too fond of 3rd party, but i been happy with 70-300VR.
i got a 70-200VR2 now, but im still keeping the 70-300 tongue.gif

these were with the 70-300VR.
mostly at or near 300mm.
user posted image
user posted image

at night, the AF speed suffers abit due to the f/5.6 at 300mm, but its still do-able if u know what ur doing...if i had a D3s then diff story tongue.gif
user posted image

This post has been edited by Everdying: Oct 3 2011, 10:58 AM
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 11:08 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 3 2011, 10:57 AM)
i never tried tamron, and not too fond of 3rd party, but i been happy with 70-300VR.
i got a 70-200VR2 now, but im still keeping the 70-300 tongue.gif

these were with the 70-300VR.
mostly at or near 300mm.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


at night, the AF speed suffers abit due to the f/5.6 at 300mm, but its still do-able if u know what ur doing...if i had a D3s then diff story tongue.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
truth be told, i still consider quite newbie.. for now, can't seems to find the difference of pictures taken with both lenses (furthermore, i have no experience with tele lens yet..) unless i go pixel peeping that is..
btw.. those are some nice shots.. smile.gif ahhh~ dilemma~ lulz

oh.. and what are the .. issues/difficulty that I will most probably encounter when using tele lens?

any other users with experience of either/both lenses got advices to contribute?

This post has been edited by tctham: Oct 3 2011, 11:10 AM
Everdying
post Oct 3 2011, 11:16 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 11:08 AM)
truth be told, i still consider quite newbie.. for now, can't seems to find the difference of pictures taken with both lenses (furthermore, i have no experience with tele lens yet..) unless i go pixel peeping that is..
btw.. those are some nice shots.. smile.gif ahhh~ dilemma~ lulz

oh.. and what are the .. issues/difficulty that I will most probably encounter when using tele lens?

any other users with experience of either/both lenses got advices to contribute?
*
issues depends, what are u planning on using a tele for?

Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 11:28 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 11:08 AM)
truth be told, i still consider quite newbie.. for now, can't seems to find the difference of pictures taken with both lenses (furthermore, i have no experience with tele lens yet..) unless i go pixel peeping that is..
btw.. those are some nice shots.. smile.gif ahhh~ dilemma~ lulz

oh.. and what are the .. issues/difficulty that I will most probably encounter when using tele lens?

any other users with experience of either/both lenses got advices to contribute?
*
handshaking in lower light place??
sure got not sharp one if you extend to 300mm f/5.6 ...and that time i using D70s.

duno, i used few times with 70-300 non VR lens....
VR one i duno, i never use that...test a bit in nikon center for 1-2 minutes before but still can't tell difference haha..
Everdying
post Oct 3 2011, 11:37 AM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
the 70-300 non-VR cannot compare to the VR version.
loses out in focus speed, sharpness etc.
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 11:37 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 3 2011, 11:16 AM)
issues depends, what are u planning on using a tele for?
*
if i go places like bird park.. there are just some things that i cannot reach.. also events, where it is difficult to get close.. that was what I have in mind le~ @_@

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 3 2011, 11:28 AM)
handshaking in lower light place??
sure got not sharp one if you extend to 300mm f/5.6 ...and that time i using D70s.

duno, i used few times with 70-300 non VR lens....
VR one i duno, i never use that...test a bit in nikon center for 1-2 minutes before but still can't tell difference haha..
*
ooo~ ok.. thanks thanks.. will keep that in mind.. smile.gif i think i'll get the vr (or vc if i decided to get the tamron instead) wan cause i think the vr/vc will be useful esp on the tele end.. altho i use tripod frequently, but i think there are times when I don't have a tripod with me or not convenient to set it up.. hehe~
Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 11:48 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 3 2011, 11:37 AM)
the 70-300 non-VR cannot compare to the VR version.
loses out in focus speed, sharpness etc.
*
ohhh.... that time i just in nikon center and switch VR ON then shaking the 5100 test unit see the live view got shaking or stable or not hehe tongue.gif
eh ...that is kit lens...now i remember.... doh.gif

keep forgeting now kit lens got VR already...

This post has been edited by Agito666: Oct 3 2011, 11:49 AM
gnome
post Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Spam one for afternoon

user posted image

Btw for those with calibrated monitor, do the pic look too cold? icon_question.gif
Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 12:34 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
Spam one for afternoon

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Btw for those with calibrated monitor, do the pic look too cold? icon_question.gif
*
duno from my monitor girls hawt, road a bit cold...but ya i think balanced la...duwan see whole picture red red... tongue.gif
jchue73
post Oct 3 2011, 12:50 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 2 2011, 02:05 PM)
We need to be in reality. That's what happening to the photography culture at the moment. Many people (but not all) thought they could produce the same quality given they're using the same gears. Even better photos when they're on better gears. We certainly need to straighten this out. I'm not saying you or anyone is one, but we shouldn't lack or only focusing in gears than building own skills. That should be what counts the most before even better gears. My 2 cents smile.gif
Well, if Nikon thinks that a photographer is only as good as the equipment he uses, it must be correct, right? j/k

QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 2 2011, 04:34 PM)
Of mainly by his potrait skill. He's the otai of potraits here brows.gif

Why I want a 85 1.4? No matter how good my skill is, I can't use a Tamron 17-50 to produce pics like that can I? tongue.gif
It's not that. What vearn27 is trying to imply is that don't expect your photos to transform magically just because you have good gear. Don't blame your gear if you don't get the photos you like.

I think from your last few post, you seem to be asking if this is better, that better etc which seems to indicate that you're more concerned about gears than skill.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
Which one?  brows.gif
D90,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


D700,
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Dunno man. For that example, I think the D90 one is better for me.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 3 2011, 08:05 AM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


share from canon thread.

no need bokeh also can  smile.gif
Agreed.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM)
F1 is the hardest,
even you can go in this year, doesn't mean next year you can...

actually celciuz, why don't try on hillstand ?
Actually, if you really want to get close to F1 action, Singapore F1 night race is better.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 3 2011, 12:29 AM)
Yeah, the paid media. But to get the free pass, you need to have publication. MotoGP and F1 more or less equally tough, since both are international events.
Hmm... let's see.. maybe for motogp... any samples of the views from hillstand?
This year's F1, I shot from K1 grandstand. I shot from Tower before previously on practice days.

The only time I got to experience the Hillstand is in 2006 where I shot from C2 Hillstand. I was on 1.5x D70 body + 300mm f/4 + 1.4xTC.

user posted image

This is after crop kau kau.

user posted image

user posted image

QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
Spam one for afternoon

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Btw for those with calibrated monitor, do the pic look too cold? icon_question.gif
Looks ok. Skin looks fine too but no idea if it's ok since office just change to U2312HM monitors.
Michaelbyz23
post Oct 3 2011, 12:59 PM

Sarawak Maju Makmur
*******
Senior Member
4,546 posts

Joined: Jun 2009
From: Selangor / Sarawak / New York



the power of nikkor 300mm f2.8

user posted image
Football - Rutgers University VS Ohio by michaelbyz23, on Flickr
Irfan2397
post Oct 3 2011, 01:06 PM

Please dont stalk me!!!
******
Senior Member
1,693 posts

Joined: Sep 2010
From: THe Hell



QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 3 2011, 01:59 PM)
the power of nikkor 300mm f2.8
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
wow your lens drool.gif

This post has been edited by Irfan2397: Oct 3 2011, 01:07 PM
Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 01:37 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
I don't think it will be a good deal like the AF-D judging from the 50mm f/1.8D to 50mm f/1.8G kinda differences :S
Which one?  brows.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
D90 nice blur background, D700 one kinda distract a bit due to "sharp" bokeh haha...
then when i scroll down.... i like the D700's floor DOF... and colour too...

so D700 for me tongue.gif
tctham
post Oct 3 2011, 02:05 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
I don't think it will be a good deal like the AF-D judging from the 50mm f/1.8D to 50mm f/1.8G kinda differences :S
Which one?  brows.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
My thinks the D700 one is quite nice.. but if ask me which one i like more, i'd prefer the D90 wan.. cuz of the composition, and the soothing background.. which makes it a good desktop wallpaper sort of feel.. or just a nice picture with soothing feelings..

QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
Spam one for afternoon

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Btw for those with calibrated monitor, do the pic look too cold? icon_question.gif
*
not too cold le i feel.. all is well... smile.gif nice pict.. hehe
Mr.PostMan
post Oct 3 2011, 02:17 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
501 posts

Joined: Feb 2009


Hi guys i'm new to DSLR here, my first DSLR camera is Nikon D3100 and i was wondering if the 18-55mm lens good enough for Macro or not? Coz i tinker around with the apperture mode but doesn't seem to get blurry background i desired.

Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 02:21 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Mr.PostMan @ Oct 3 2011, 02:17 PM)
Hi guys i'm new to DSLR here, my first DSLR camera is Nikon D3100 and i was wondering if the 18-55mm lens good enough for Macro or not? Coz i tinker around with the apperture mode but doesn't seem to get blurry background i desired.
*
you can get a macro lens for DX body... hehehe.... biggrin.gif
Mr.PostMan
post Oct 3 2011, 02:29 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
501 posts

Joined: Feb 2009


QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:21 PM)
you can get a macro lens for DX body... hehehe.... biggrin.gif
*
is this what you mean? http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-55-ii.htm
Agito666
post Oct 3 2011, 02:38 PM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(Mr.PostMan @ Oct 3 2011, 02:29 PM)
hmmm you go try pull the zoom to furthest, aperture wide open then the macro subject to minimum focus distance (as near as possible) then see can get blurry background or not ... hmm.gif

This post has been edited by Agito666: Oct 3 2011, 02:39 PM
hidden830726
post Oct 3 2011, 09:02 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:38 PM)
hmmm you go try pull the zoom to furthest, aperture wide open then the macro subject to minimum focus distance (as near as possible) then see can get blurry background or not ...  hmm.gif
*
Hardly blur. Personal experience. Want blur just get 50mm, cheap and nice to use.
iloveOov
post Oct 3 2011, 10:18 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
226 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
over exposured xD

user posted image
hidden830726
post Oct 3 2011, 10:39 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
QUOTE(iloveOov @ Oct 3 2011, 10:18 PM)
over exposured xD
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

*
High Key.
nanogen
post Oct 3 2011, 10:43 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
188 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(iloveOov @ Oct 3 2011, 10:18 PM)
over exposured xD

user posted image
*
nice "Dreamy" lol

where is this place anyway?
iloveOov
post Oct 3 2011, 11:58 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
226 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
QUOTE(nanogen @ Oct 3 2011, 10:43 PM)
nice "Dreamy" lol

where is this place anyway?
*
Sunway Giza FullHouse icon_rolleyes.gif
tctham
post Oct 4 2011, 12:04 AM

On my way
****
Junior Member
653 posts

Joined: Aug 2010


QUOTE(iloveOov @ Oct 3 2011, 11:58 PM)
Sunway Giza FullHouse  icon_rolleyes.gif
*
Then I must say it's a nice pict.. didn't expect sunway giza full house can be like that.. i love it when people is able to take a picture of somewhere that we've seen before but not in that light.. smile.gif great job!!!! and agreed with the dreamy effect
devilkid84
post Oct 4 2011, 12:09 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
564 posts

Joined: Aug 2006
dear all sifus, i plan to get 50mm.
which below is good? any different ar?

AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8G
AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D
gnome
post Oct 4 2011, 12:35 AM

- We game, do you? -
*******
Senior Member
4,925 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posted in the daily pic thread so spam here also laugh.gif

user posted image

Senget the pic abit for those dramatic angle look tongue.gif
BenSow
post Oct 4 2011, 01:17 AM

Awaiting OREO
*******
Senior Member
2,716 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
From: The Womb


QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 3 2011, 10:57 AM)
i never tried tamron, and not too fond of 3rd party, but i been happy with 70-300VR.
i got a 70-200VR2 now, but im still keeping the 70-300 tongue.gif

these were with the 70-300VR.
mostly at or near 300mm.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

at night, the AF speed suffers abit due to the f/5.6 at 300mm, but its still do-able if u know what ur doing...if i had a D3s then diff story tongue.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
*
Interesting, thanks for sharing, I'm considering this lens... But have to try it out first hand first >< btw at f/5.6 what shutter speed did you get for the last photo
TS0168257061
post Oct 4 2011, 07:52 AM

EimiFukada
********
All Stars
14,242 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: JAVABUS


QUOTE(tctham @ Oct 3 2011, 02:05 PM)
My thinks the D700 one is quite nice.. but if ask me which one i like more, i'd prefer the D90 wan.. cuz of the composition, and the soothing background.. which makes it a good desktop wallpaper sort of feel.. or just a nice picture with soothing feelings..
not too cold le i feel.. all is well... smile.gif nice pict.. hehe
*
I'd prefer the d90 smooth out of focus background as well.
d700 that wan too busy
nairud
post Oct 4 2011, 11:19 AM

One Leg Kick Ultra
Group Icon
Staff
7,529 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
On September 29th, digicame-info published those Nikon D800 specs (Google translation):

What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels.
4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
Two media CF card and SD card slot.
Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.


Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz1ZmOT1X5y


hopefully it'll be less than 9k. 300k yen is RM12.5k

This post has been edited by nairud: Oct 4 2011, 11:20 AM
hidden830726
post Oct 4 2011, 11:35 AM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
300,000.00 JPY = 12,568.81 MYR
Japanese Yen Malaysian Ringgit

1 JPY = 0.0418960 MYR
1 MYR = 23.8686 JPY
jchue73
post Oct 4 2011, 11:39 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,496 posts

Joined: Nov 2006
QUOTE(nairud @ Oct 4 2011, 11:19 AM)
On September 29th, digicame-info published those Nikon D800 specs (Google translation):

    What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels.
    4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
    A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
    Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
    Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
    86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
    Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
    Two media CF card and SD card slot.
    Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
    Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.
Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz1ZmOT1X5y
hopefully it'll be less than 9k. 300k yen is RM12.5k
Don't know if the rumour is true or not. 36MP is very heavy and huge jump. Is the current lens lineup up to job? Is the noise performance going to be as good as the current FX bodies? I'm starting to think what kind of computing power is required to process the NEF files. rclxub.gif
Agito666
post Oct 4 2011, 11:41 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(nairud @ Oct 4 2011, 11:19 AM)
On September 29th, digicame-info published those Nikon D800 specs (Google translation):

    What number of pixels is 3630 megapixels.
    4 frames per second continuous shooting in body only, about 6 frames per second will be used to DX mode with the optional battery pack.
    A little late to be released by the model resolution sought to eliminate the low-pass filter.
    Full HD video in 1920 × 1080/30p.
    Headphone jacks, can be input from an external device such as a PCM sound recorder. Corresponding to USB3.0. Be available in new small wireless transmitter.
    86K pixel split control, AF, exposure, white balance, etc. compatible. Face Recognition AF features.
    Larger LCD monitor, automatic brightness adjustment, the structure is not cloudy.
    Two media CF card and SD card slot.
    Shutter durability of 200,000 cycles.
    Market price is about 300,000 yen. The announcement on October 26, released on November 24.
Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/#ixzz1ZmOT1X5y
hopefully it'll be less than 9k. 300k yen is RM12.5k
*
12.56k shocking.gif
it is like i had to extend 4.5 more months to save it up cry.gif
nairud
post Oct 4 2011, 11:46 AM

One Leg Kick Ultra
Group Icon
Staff
7,529 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
just a rumor guys. no need to go WAHHHH over it.

those famous photogs are testing out nikon new cam for the past 2-3 months already... expect some announcement to be made
Agito666
post Oct 4 2011, 11:49 AM

10k Club
Group Icon
Elite
11,861 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Bangalasia
QUOTE(nairud @ Oct 4 2011, 11:46 AM)
just a rumor guys. no need to go WAHHHH over it.

those famous photogs are testing out nikon new cam for the past 2-3 months already... expect some announcement to be made
*
i m wah-ing the price cry.gif

oh well, wait lor what to do whistling.gif

just curious will they make it to 4 fps for that body... since D700 is 8fps right?
or sure got some mode can make it to 8fps or higher... no way will do that if someone wan shoot sport scene with lower MP? unsure.gif

cant wait how the expeed 3 will preform in fx body drool.gif
hidden830726
post Oct 4 2011, 12:12 PM

Moko the Linaslayer
*******
Senior Member
2,847 posts

Joined: Oct 2010
"hey, they may announce the the sensor is switchable. They also have filed a patent for that. We may have options here people. Nikon will be able to cover studio and wedding photographers. What do you guys think about that?"

Read more on NikonRumors.com: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/03/the-name.../#ixzz1Zmb7XLHx


5 Pages  1 2 3 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.1789sec    0.96    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 9th December 2025 - 03:53 PM