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post Sep 17 2011, 11:51 PM, updated 8y ago

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EDITED 2018 : THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CHANGES IN REGULATION AND ALSO SOME OF THE INFO MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE DUE TO ME WRITING THIS ARTICLE IN MY JUNIOR YEAR. I'D LIKE TO WARN EVERYONE. NEVER STUDY SEAFARER RELATED COURSES WITH LOAN/PTPTN/OWN MONEY (UNLESS YOU'RE FRICKING RICH). WITHOUT SPONSORSHIP, YOU WILL FIND IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SECURE CADETSHIP AND ALSO GETTING YOUR FIRST JOB. COUPLED WITH OIL PRICE GLUT AND COMPETITION FROM CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR, LOCAL SEAFARER FUTURE IN THE INDUSTRY SEEMS BLEAK. EVEN THE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AND EXPERIENCED SEAFARER ARE FACING DIFFICULTY FINDING JOB. AND SOME OF MY JUNIORS HAVE BEEN JOBLESS. PROCEED WITH CAUTION!

From my first thread, this is the new version of it since the last one some facts are outdated.
I'd like to introduce myself. I’m currently a student in one of the few maritime school in Malaysia. I took diploma in marine engineering. The purpose is that i want to encourage more Malaysian into this industry. The reward is good since seafaring command one of the highest paid job for diploma holder.

thread v1 : Begin Your Career As Seafarer V1

First of all, what is seafarer?

Seafarer is a person who carries various duties onboard ships. They will sail with the ship in order to transport goods that the customer want us to deliver. Divided into two department which are Deck Department and Engineering Department.


Benefits of becoming a SEAFARER

1) Rewarding career. Cheapest pay is around RM7500 for fresh graduates of diploma in foreign going ship. For near coastal, it’s about RM4000

2) Experience gained make it easier for you to apply job on oil platform since you have an offshore working experience.

3) Can save a lot of money. onboard ship, no need car. no need to pay rental for accommodation. free meal(every week can eat western). no need money to go to gym. onboard ship, gym is provided. got tv, some ship have internet facilities. some got pool/snooker table.

4) Upon earning your Certificate of Competency, it is as valuable as other certificate of same level such as Steam/Boiler Engineer certificate. Why is that so? Because these kind of certificates/license is not earn by just attending few days of course. To earn this certs, seatime/working experience is needed. These certificates doesn’t only show that you are competent. It’ll show that you are COMPETENT WITH EXPERIENCE as most other certificate doesn’t provide and show how experinced you’re in that current field.


Where can I study the courses?

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Definition Of Marine Engineering

Marine engineers are the members of a ship's crew that operate and maintain the propulsion and other systems on board the vessel. Marine Engineering staff also deal with the "Hotel" facilities on board, notably the sewage, lighting, air conditioning and water systems. They deal with bulk fuel transfers, and require training in firefighting and first aid, as well as in dealing with the ship's boats and other nautical tasks- especially with cargo loading/discharging gear and safety systems, though the specific cargo discharge function remains the responsibility of deck officers and deck workers.

Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.

Definiton of Nautical Studies

As of Nautical Studies, you will usually work as person in charge of navigation, cargo loading & discharging, deck maintenance. And lots more.

I’m from engineering dept, so, I’ll try to update more later on.


Department & Rank
If you notice from the rank chart, Chief Engineer is actually the same rank level as of captain. Just that, Captain is the commanding officer in charge of all ship activities. He is head of department for Deck. Chief Engineer on the other hand is the head of department for Engine. Their rank are on the same level so do their payment, but captain commands exceed chief engineer in some matter.

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Salary(ASIAN RATE)

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So far that's it for now more update coming soon regarding this matters. updates such career progression, future prospect, type of ship, company name list etc2, will be updated soon. If you have any question regarding this career, feel free to ask smile.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Sep 18 2011, 01:02 AM)
I'm currently in my 3rd year of me degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Considering all the options I have here. The pay seems good tbh laugh.gif

What is my career path like if i choose to become a seafarer?
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you can take the MEBP prog in alam or singapore maritime academy. this year only 4 people join the course. all of them are sponsored by AET. MEBP program is a 6 month program in alam. after the completion of program, you need to sail for 12 month collecting ur seatime to sit for your license exam. then only you can go for engineer status.

btw. have you any idea how working onboard like? it's not a job for sissy
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post Sep 18 2011, 02:00 AM

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u need the seatime to get ur COC. the bridging program is to comply with STCW requirement to equip urself with seamanship. it is also help you to secure sponsorship from shipping company since the cost is about rm27000.




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post Sep 18 2011, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Sep 18 2011, 03:20 AM)
So must know how to swim too?
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not necessary when u want to join. but u have to learn and institution like alam do provide swimming class

QUOTE(transhumanist92 @ Sep 18 2011, 06:11 AM)
can a man with diabetes become a seafarer?
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can. as long it's controllable & manageable.


QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 18 2011, 06:32 AM)
A good thread.....I read the V1 since 2009.

So, TS now have finished your diploma????
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currently in my final sem. i've sailed from atlantic to caribbean and to pacific. nice voyage~~~


QUOTE(wcypierre @ Sep 18 2011, 12:46 PM)
Only 4 people can join or only 4 people joined?  hmm.gif
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that one i'm not sure. but if i'm not mistaken, application for the course is reducing since most degree grads are not willing to go to sea.

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post Sep 18 2011, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 18 2011, 03:34 PM)
Do your job need to be physically fit???

A very good stamina is required??
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that depends. i've seen fat people go onboard also tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 18 2011, 04:38 PM)
Haha...but fat people does not mean they have low stamina....

And then for those wearing specs are not allowed to do nautical studies, does this apply to marine engineering??
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yep. nautical if u want to enter alam u cannot wear spec. more accurate is that it is correctable 6/60 if i'm not mistaken.


QUOTE(lovebattery @ Sep 18 2011, 04:44 PM)
AET = American Eagle Tankers

a subsidiary of MISC..
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dats right.
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post Sep 18 2011, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 18 2011, 10:14 PM)
So, for those wearing specs with quite high power, it is not suitable for them....

I am going to encourage my juniors to go for this...
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the more the merrier!
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post Sep 19 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 19 2011, 06:31 AM)
However, with the current unstable economy, do you think that those big company will cut down the salary or number of seafarers that they need???

I mean job opportunities.
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well... did u know that 90% of world trade go through sea? unless they invent faster and more economical trading method, there'll always be job opportunities for us. we can also proceed for career at shore.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 19 2011, 07:44 PM)
Hmm...I do agree with you.

How about the selection to be a seafarer???

Like which school do you graduate...
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that depends. they look into ur academic & health background mozly.

i'm in final sem. ALAM
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post Sep 20 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(tawfi @ Sep 20 2011, 04:17 AM)
err..when u said sissy... how tough u hav to be actually to become a seafarer?^^" n can i know wut motivated you to become a seafarer. thx *any facebook account or some picture to share perhaps ? smile.gif
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it's like going into a sauna. except that you HAVE TO WORK. that's for engineer.

for deck, it's a tanning process for 8 hours. EVERYDAY
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 21 2011, 07:40 AM)
So, from your point of view, it is a tough job right.

Is there any security guards on the ship and doctors to take care of the crew's health?
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yep. it's tough and quite risky. due to hazardous working environment.

security and doctors only available normally on cruise ship.
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:30 PM

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we have on shelf medication onboard. and if the case is serious, treatment will be seek once we reach port or in very serious case, air transport such as chopper will be called.

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post Sep 23 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 23 2011, 03:36 PM)
I have a question. If we have degree on ocean science or maritime studies, are we given a chance??
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that's too general. be more specific please. the subject learned, etc2.
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post Sep 23 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Sep 23 2011, 03:43 PM)
For example,

Sarjana Muda Sains (Sains Samudera)

Sarjana Muda Sains Gunaan (Teknologi Maritim)

Sarjana Muda Sains (Sains Nautika dan Pengangkutan Maritim)
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ooo... u're talking about UMT right.

it's like this. i've never heard of any umt student went sailing. moz of them land on shore career.
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post Feb 7 2012, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(JT1160 @ Feb 7 2012, 05:47 AM)
i have one question.
after the interview at alam,they gave me a conditional letter.
so when they are giving me the cadet letter and also the sponsor?
hope destroyer could help..


Added on February 7, 2012, 5:49 amor anyone else?
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i'm not sure about that. for better clarification, you can make a phone call to ALAM directly. their contacts can be found on ALAM website. coz i'm not sure whether i receive any conditional letter oz during my time, i only receive 2 letter. one is for the call for attending interview while the other one is the letter stating which sponsorship i've received.
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post Feb 20 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Feb 20 2012, 10:28 AM)
destroyer pls revise your pay scale .. the pay is not that high .. i can provide u the deck department job scope
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that one i acquire it from marine insight website. it shud be around the same amount for big2 ship. just that perhaps there's a slight difference from local company. i'll try to update with the current rate.

btw, there's seafarer meet up on 26 february in wisma pelaut port klang. the main aim is to discuss about seafarer unemployment in the industry due to dependence on foreign seafarer.
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post Feb 20 2012, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(anmc86 @ Feb 20 2012, 05:05 PM)
Is the local seafarer unemployment rate high?and why so much depend on foreign seafarer?

the seafarer employment method is by contract or permanent employment of a company?
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currently the rate is quite high. for new fresh seafarer. mostly for rating.

most company offer contract employment. however, if your track record is proven to be good, they might offer you position on permanent basis.
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post Oct 13 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ChuckyHuntsYou @ Sep 16 2013, 12:07 PM)
If you go for this job :

50% you'll be gay
20% you'll be drug addict
20% you'll be gambling all days and be a stupid gambler in the future.
10% you'll get AIDS or HIV.

Why?
Once you arrive your destination, let's say : Dubai.
The agent at there will give you your salaries once you depart, and there'll be many whores at there waiting for you to satisfy yourself. And your money will be gone very fast.

Unless you know how to control yourself. (5% of all are capable of doing that ONLY)
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what can i say bout this that your statement is completely bullsh*t.

been in this career more than 3 years. what can i say, i met more gay, drug addict, gambler, and hiv positive people on shore than at sea.

we seaman nowadays undergo more rules and regulation.

no drug n alcohol onboard. and furthermore strict medical checkup performed forbid anyone with STD to sail.
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(zizdnyll @ Oct 13 2013, 10:48 PM)
wow , destroyer is back?
haha , wher r u nw bro?
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me in singapore. sorry for leaving u guys. rarely on the net bro. quit AET already n joining company with bigger bucks.
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kuri1995 @ Oct 14 2013, 02:06 PM)
Welcome back. Missed you. How is your life currently as a seafarer? Any rough moments and how did the Capt treat u as a cadet. Had a shock recently when we visited an MISC ship, and the Capt scolded one of my classmates for using the phone. Was shocked and scared at the same time. Also, if u don't mind, how was AET paying u before u left. Is the new company paying you a lot more?? thanks and welcome back smile.gif
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QUOTE(Eternalbliss @ Oct 18 2013, 03:06 PM)
Welcome back destroyer. Missed your valuable experience and insight with regards o this career.
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thank you all. sorry for deserting all of you. luckily there's many other here lend me a helping hand on answering all the inquiry. ohhh. you guys should be briefed before you go onboard. captain is right because usage of electrical n electronic are forbidden in most part of the ship except inside accommodation. this is due to the possibility to create spark n static electricity which could cause fire and explosion. you guys o the other hand should be briefed 1st because what does 1st timer know bout this. this is no one fault. everyone trying to do their job.

i left aet direct after graduation. never serve them after that. yep. they're paying me a lot more. and i'm now 3rd engineer already.

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