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LeonIsaac
post Nov 27 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Sep 17 2011, 11:51 PM)
From my first thread, this is the new version of it since the last one some facts are outdated.
I'd like to introduce myself. I’m currently a student in one of the few maritime school in Malaysia. I took diploma in marine engineering. The purpose is that i want to encourage more Malaysian into this industry. The reward is good since seafaring command one of the highest paid job for diploma holder.

thread v1 : Begin Your Career As Seafarer V1

First of all, what is seafarer?

Seafarer is a person who carries various duties onboard ships. They will sail with the ship in order to transport goods that the customer want us to deliver. Divided into two department which are Deck Department and Engineering Department.
Benefits of becoming a SEAFARER

1) Rewarding career. Cheapest pay is around RM7500 for fresh graduates of diploma in foreign going ship. For near coastal, it’s about RM4000

2) Experience gained make it easier for you to apply job on oil platform since you have an offshore working experience.

3) Can save a lot of money. onboard ship, no need car. no need to pay rental for accommodation. free meal(every week can eat western). no need money to go to gym. onboard ship, gym is provided. got tv, some ship have internet facilities. some got pool/snooker table.

4) Upon earning your Certificate of Competency, it is as valuable as other certificate of same level such as Steam/Boiler Engineer certificate. Why is that so? Because these kind of certificates/license is not earn by just attending few days of course. To earn this certs, seatime/working experience is needed. These certificates doesn’t only show that you are competent. It’ll show that you are COMPETENT WITH EXPERIENCE as most other certificate doesn’t provide and show how experinced you’re in that current field.
Where can I study the courses?

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Definition Of Marine Engineering

Marine engineers are the members of a ship's crew that operate and maintain the propulsion and other systems on board the vessel. Marine Engineering staff also deal with the "Hotel" facilities on board, notably the sewage, lighting, air conditioning and water systems. They deal with bulk fuel transfers, and require training in firefighting and first aid, as well as in dealing with the ship's boats and other nautical tasks- especially with cargo loading/discharging gear and safety systems, though the specific cargo discharge function remains the responsibility of deck officers and deck workers.

Sometimes, they are involved in the design and construction of these complicated systems. New design is mostly included within the naval architecture or ship design. The field is closely related to mechanical engineering, although the modern engineer requires knowledge (and hands on experience) with electrical, electronic, pneumatic, hydraulic, chemistry, control engineering, naval architecture, process engineering, gas turbines and even nuclear technology on certain military vessels.

Definiton of Nautical Studies

As of Nautical Studies, you will usually work as person in charge of navigation, cargo loading & discharging, deck maintenance. And lots more.

I’m from engineering dept, so, I’ll try to update more later on.
Department & Rank
If you notice from the rank chart, Chief Engineer is actually the same rank level as of captain. Just that, Captain is the commanding officer in charge of all ship activities. He is head of department for Deck. Chief Engineer on the other hand is the head of department for Engine. Their rank are on the same level so do their payment, but captain commands exceed chief engineer in some matter.

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So far that's it for now more update coming soon regarding this matters. updates such career progression, future prospect, type of ship, company name list etc2, will be updated soon. If you have any question regarding this career, feel free to ask smile.gif
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Hi Destroyer,

My name is Leon and Im keen to join as a seafarer. Although my education isnt all fantastic especially my mathematics so Im curious to know if there are other ways to join in as a seafarer and work ofshore instead of aquiring the COC. I understand that if you do enough seatime(costal at first) you can qualify to undertake a test to enable you to get a COC(correct me if im wrong) Im not exactly 100% sure but I have got in contact with ALAM and the person on the other was explaining it to me that sense. Anyways that person is suppose to get back to me but I was hoping with the experience you have it would be a great deal if you could help properly explain it to me. I hope to hear from you soon. TQ.

Regards,
Leon

LeonIsaac
post Nov 27 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(zizdnyll @ Nov 27 2012, 03:19 PM)
try to join as cadet , math is one of the most important subject , because u have to do a lot of calculation for practical navigation , cargo work , ship stability , most of it require basic math knowledge and a few theory .
unless you want to join ship as os first then ab ,then u collect enough seatime to qualified to take the coc , bt its not recommended , because you are going through tough life as os and ab when youre at sea .
im a deck cadet myself , anything u can ask me
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What does OS and AB stand for? and when you say 'tough' you mean it in what way? If its labor than I can say Im kinda accustomed to hard work but my main worries would be studies wise because like you said there's alot of calculation involved and to add as well I am not from science stream Im from Arts.

Ofcourse I wouldnt mind learning but I know its not gonna be easy considering there is gonna be alot of subjects which I have no clue of. If I were to work as OS or AB how long would you figure for me to move up the ranks of officer?

Regards,
Leon
LeonIsaac
post Nov 27 2012, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(zizdnyll @ Nov 27 2012, 03:47 PM)
os is ordinary seaman , while after few months of experienced you can be promoted to able body seaman , as an ab or as you uave to do all the job on deck including cleaning the toilet ,chipping daily , take watch , painting the ship . cargo loading discharging operation , mooring station , and also assist the officer to take watch , and steering too .
i think you need to complete the tarb book and enough seatime , maybe around 2 years , before you can take the coc test with marine department .
to become os is easy , go to alam , apply for basic safety training course if u have extra money , do the taker familarisation cert , so you can go onboard tanker .. try asking sarawak maritime academy if they accept non science  stream student . because alam only take science stream student nowadays
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I see..so after 2 years working AB then it comes to the test, how is the COC test is it an oral test or written?

How much for the safety course?

Normally how would the salary be like for OS or AB, and Im curious to know if working as a seafarer also have EPF and Socso?(for example right now I believe its 13% on employer contribution and 11% on employee)

Regards,
Leon

 

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