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post Sep 16 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(jesseclane @ Sep 16 2011, 11:24 PM)
so you think giving them for vote exchange is good and wise choice by govt?  hmm.gif
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I got my citizenship in exchange for my vote sad.gif
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post Sep 16 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(4agze @ Sep 16 2011, 11:26 PM)
I hope this will come true
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The last time they did that with a land invasion I think shit load of people died lol. Chances are you're gonna be one of them.
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post Sep 17 2011, 03:40 PM

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I think about all of this and I wonder, Malaysians migrate all over the place and expect to be greeted with open arms, are we all just mere hypocrites?
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post Sep 17 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Sep 17 2011, 03:43 PM)
if malaysians are treated fairly in their own country.. why migrate?

Ive had countless oppurtunies to migrate, why work here if i can work in singapore for less working hours and double the salary?? Sorry, im not one of those.
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Everyone moves around, going by your logic no British would migrate (yet 49 percent of immigrants to Australia are British), no Singaporean would want to migrate as well (but they keep saying they want to). That's all shit logic. Worst of all, it doesn't address the point made.

The point that needs refutation is that are we treating others much like how we wish to be treated? or do we feel we're exempt because we're somehow "higher up" the migrant chain?
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post Sep 17 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Sep 17 2011, 03:48 PM)
we didnt ask for voting right in other countries.
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3 years on a legal visa only required with 1 year year out of that on a residency. How's that for requirements?

I live here, I have a right to see my tax dollars spent in a way I see fit. As a legal and proper person making a contribution to society I want the right to make sure that my contributions meet my expectations. I want to hold the government I live under and the laws they make accountable to me.


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post Sep 17 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Sep 17 2011, 03:55 PM)
aus white are descendants of pirates, convicts, mutinies, wardens, sailors, merchants...  whistling.gif  that got kicked out  doh.gif
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Not really, and migration continues till this day from the UK. Tons of Indians and Chinese trying to get in without much luck.

For a country of rejects, it has done pretty well.

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sounds ok to me


Now if we were to grant citizenship along the same lines, would Malaysians accept it? Doubt so.

I'm not worried about the vote buying in the equation of the argument, I'm worried about the xenophobia and how we treat others.
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post Sep 17 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(sweeann @ Sep 17 2011, 04:01 PM)
Just in case you did not click on the spoiler, so I shall remove the spoiler for you to see it clearly, it is not about who migrating to where, you are right, everyone moves around, even for me, I am not in Malaysia as well, but don't you think to use Malaysia citizenship in exchange for the votes, BN is just too much?
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Like I said, I'm not even addressing that, I'm addressing my perceived xenophobia, that attacks Bangladeshis instead of attacking a corrupt and flawed process.
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post Sep 17 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(sweeann @ Sep 17 2011, 04:06 PM)
Well, for all of us that has a clear mind, we have been commenting/criticizing BN's motive on the citizenship giving out in exchange for the votes for them, and not about the attacks to Bangladeshis.
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Cheers to that, but do look at the majority of posts on the topic in this thread and others, you'll find that the undertone isn't as straightforward. Which is of course a point to ponder.
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post Sep 17 2011, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(dell5 @ Sep 17 2011, 04:54 PM)
if malayneum heard this he will kill you and chase you outta country..

malaynuem mention before...even with chinese .. he find it difficult to get along with chinese being malaysian  because chinese not willing to assimulate to malay culture and custom,,,and malay school together...

if chinese to be accepted be  malaysian.. they must able to speak bahasa melayu..and fluent in malay history..
now you are encourage foreigner who can;t speak melayu and know nothing shit about malay history and no connection to kemerdekaan melayu and pelembaggaan...... i bet they don;t even know who is tok janggut,,,

and you gave them citizenship?? are we that cheap??
malaynuew have defend the country so much as the history goes .. and now you prostitute your own country to someone who can;t speak our culture??
what is wrong with you?? are you malay?
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What so hard?

I speak English, I learned Australian history and the Federal constitution and have picked up local culture. Didn't take too long. Why can't others do the same? Not rocket science babe.

It's those people that have lived in Malaysia all their lives yet can't speak BM that I figure we should kick out.

QUOTE(dell5 @ Sep 17 2011, 04:58 PM)
i can accept that bangla come here to work  as PR ...but not give then citizenship... it states very clear in malaysian constitution...only ppl who born in malaysia  are warganegara
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Citizenship by naturalization is possible by the constitution.
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post Sep 17 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(dell5 @ Sep 17 2011, 05:28 PM)
look yourself in the mirror...are you given a australian citizenship?? you can vote in australia? if you can;t why should i listen to you?
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Hehehe, it's farkin easier to get than most others lol. I'll let you guess biggrin.gif
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post Sep 17 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Sep 17 2011, 05:44 PM)
u have an australian degree?
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Yesh. Came in via the GSM.
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post Sep 17 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(replymela @ Sep 17 2011, 05:51 PM)
i thought they tightened their PR status? You took pre u there?
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They started tightening after 2010 I did my PR before then. Now it is close to impossible. Nah, just did my final year and masters here.

QUOTE(RabbitS @ Sep 17 2011, 05:52 PM)
lol... all they need to do is to sell their natural resources to china... just like what the arabs do.. sell oil to the western world..
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Enough proven resources to last many generations, I for one know there's enough Coal Seam gas out there as 1P reserves not inclusive of shale oil and so forth to last us 30 to 40 years before peak production hits. Coupled with a strong financial services sector, strong RnD and Tech and of course high tech manufacturing, it has great potential.


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post Sep 17 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Sep 17 2011, 06:09 PM)
thats why.. u know those without australian degree xboleh/or very hard to even get PR right?
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Yes. But what most don't know is that you have to study a specific degree outlined in the SOL list, which changes every year or 6 months.

Most idiots never look at the list then finish course wan get PR then I lol at them. Yes, you can get in without an Australian degree, but now you have to be invited to make an application.

The gates generally closed after the influx of Indians taking dodgy courses and colleges to get PR.
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