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post Jun 3 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(makmur76 @ Jun 3 2013, 12:56 PM)
Do we need to get consent letter from Majlis Daerah if just to install GRILLs to our house?  Seems everywhere got banners with the MDKS reminder... huhu
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When I did renovation for my previous home, both the draftsman and contractor who did the extension did not include any grill in the renov. plan and it was approved by MBPJ. Later, he just recommended a grill installer ( we lost his contact), and for all edges, we requested for embedded hinges to deter break-in but he made a grill door flap for each window that can be locked and opened during fire. We are asked to keep the keys very nearby for easy retrieval if there is a fire. He said this will satisfy the fire safety rule. And all I have read in news is that the grill design should conform to the fire department's fire safety guidelines (or perhaps law I am not sure. It is safer to check their website).😊

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QUOTE(papadon @ Jun 4 2013, 06:26 PM)
Banyan for as low as RM950k to as high as RM1.2m..big spread but perhaps LA are diff
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LOL..What? 30' extra land yet it is not included in the 'land area'! Some misleading advertisement. Don't trust the broker. I know this forum is not for selling homes but we are here to protect the interest of members of the community who wish to sell their property. And I am not yet selling my Banyan. Some mean brokers are not able to withstand long without selling any unit and thus may exploit the ignorance of home sellers. From what I see, the value of Banyan semi-ds are worth more than the range advertised. Let us run a brief comparisons between different semi-ds, all are new launches and prices quoted are as what you buy this year, so ignore whether they are newly launched prices or subsales. It is what you are asked to pay if you buy now.

Here it goes:
Note: when it comes to advantage and disadv. , they are strictly my personal view, no offence intented. After reading, you will agree that what were advertised are undervalued for the Banyans. One should do a similar comparison for the other types of homes. Convince the brokers then they can't suppress your prices for quick commissions!

Date of advertisement: 5/13:

2-stry Clover semi-d Cyberjaya Mahsing Garden Residence, ready by dec 2014, freehold, just enquired price is min. 1.73million after developer discount, 3213 sq. ft. 40x80', near ERL,
G&G. Just visited the Aspen Show Village in Cyberjaya to see the show unit.
Advantage: afluent image, more urbanised than BSC. This said, BSC is not lacking in facility but has a suburb. image. So how much price difference should there? BSC is ready for occupation by another few months. It can offer immediate subsale/rental returns. Clover is another 1 1/2 year more.

Disadv. (my personal view strictly) split up very high to dinning, stairs very near front door entrance. Banyan semi-d has a staircase that starts further in between the hall and dining, but the powder room by the side of the hall takes away about 8ft of the width. It has an open feel, with no rising stairs greeting you right away when you step in. Distance: Cyberjaya is about 32km. Fr. I Utama, one way, travel time=45min. via LDP (jam). BSC=26km. and 45 min. via LDP to Jln. Kuala Selangor (jam) or via NKVE to Guthrie Corridor Expressway to Jln. Batu Arang ( smooth traffic)=34km. Travel time: 37min.

Date of advertisement:6/13:

Mahsing Kinrara Residence, Palmiera 2- stry s-d, at bandar kinrara 6a (21 km. . Fr. I Utama) 40'x80'- freehold, built-up 3138 sq. ft. 5 rooms 4 baths
Today's enquiry: min. RM 1.71 million after rebate.
Contact: Mr. Sunny (sales person) 0193224400


Adv: bigger built-up. Gated and guarded (from developer website).
Disadv: heavy traffic at LDP, stairs in hall. 2 rooms downstairs share a common bath.

Date of advertisement:2012:
D' kayangan shah alam-1U=19.8km leasehold=RM2.1m land area: 40'x90'.

Date of advertisement: 4/2013:
Rawang M Residence Corus68 phase4:
is a new township away from Rawang town about 40km from I Utama, land area: 40'x85', built-up: 3248sq. Ft. Price=min. RM 1.2 million before discount. Read page 52 for details.

26/4:
Cheras 32km. From 1U:
Suria Residence 2-stry semi-d 45x80' ready May 2015 : min. RM1.596 mil. Before discount.

Banyan semi-d in BSC:
Land area: 40'x80'. Freehold.

Facilities are 4.5km. to shops in Alam Jaya, where banks and Secret Recepe are, 7km. to Bandar Puncak Alam where one can get good food, and New Tesco is just 2 min. away in Puncak Bestari! Plenty of Thai style restaurants along the way to Tesco.
Do I sound like a broker ? No, I am just armed with facts, that's all. I sold my old corner link that way for a good price.
Pm me if you wish to know or discuss what is a good price for the Banyans.

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One freelance Interior Designer has just called me! She was recommended by a curtain/blind company. She requested to meet, I requested for actual project visit before any further discussion. She said ya, now customer have moved in, so need to arrange. I said ok I am sure she can call them first and give me an assurance. She said: ya but lets meet first! I said if no finished work viewing prior to anything, Don't waste my time having detailed discussion with her of what to do. She hung up. 2 minutes or so later, she called again. No answer from me, period.

Why out of the way to create first meeting? No branding or credentials established yet bulldoze.. There may be professional charges per each meet. They call it 'consultation fees'. Or simply no good work to show. a smart ID will normally get prior consent from clients to allow potential customers to view their homes in return for a discount. We are talking about many thousands of cash deals, not a small one, and not many are out for this. So why let go the few that they can get to by that way?

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QUOTE(papadon @ Jun 10 2013, 06:52 PM)
if this is true, then it is great news indeed. BSC anyway has a site for commercial activities, so hopefully a big mall comes in and that will ensure we don't have to leave BSC for our dining, entertainment and shopping needs rclxms.gif
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Indeed, this is very good development for Bandar Seri Coalfields if Parkson has decided to open here. Parkson has upgraded its image to go for brand names merchandise.
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In view of the speedy commercial development nearby, with Tesco confirmed and plenty of good food, Thai style, Kelantanese dishes, Econsave etc., I am very much inclined to move in and stay and see if we like the environment there. I am a 1 Malaysia Chinese.👍

It is ok to know what races are staying around you, why?
Advantage:
Everyday you are forced to converse in English (if your neighbor can't speak your language), so you, and especially your children can acquire good language skills other than your own mother tongue.
Second, if you are unable to accept certain religious/cultural practices in the neighborhood, you can abstain from buying.

So nothing un-Malaysian really.

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Let me illustrate the advantages of mixing with other races in a mix neighborhood through my own experience (what else!). It is a rather lengthy posting in order to give an insight to you:

I recall that my primary school was predominantly Chinese, with only one subject in Malay and one in English. ALL of us, even the best pupils, could not speak fluent Malay or English. Why? There was no need to as all pupils are Chinese! Trying to converse in other languages sounded very odd and we couldn't engage our talk much further before we broke off laughing!

Came secondary school, then, some of us were put into an English medium school which had a good mixture of all races. My class monitor was Zaleha, a pretty and fiesty Malay girl. She was also a head prefect! She spoke excellent English and teachers loved her. She twirled around the teachers! I admired her so much that I decided to chat her up. At first, I had to string up my sentences in my mind but later English words just flowed out effortlessly! That's how I brushed up my spoken English. I remember recording and playing back my reading in English to improve my pronounciation! Then, I was asked to read English passages in class. Back then, my pronounciation was better than at present. You see, most people I speak to nowadays speak flat English, even so with speaking Mandarin. It is a matter of who you apeak to. In China recently, I transformed my spoken Mandarin to top Class, but not back here. Also, the lack of need to write in Mandarin has made me forget the writing though I can read well. It is in short, practice and just PRACTICE will make it!!

Then in University of Malaya, where all lectures were delivered in Malay! We undertook weekly tuition where the tuitors made us translate on the spot English paragraphs into Malay. I made some awful stutters and the others laughed. That pushed me to try harder. We learnt Malay in our note making translating facts from English to BM, as it was compulsory to answer a few questions in Malay.

Then into government service where extensive reports of research findings need to be written in precise and concise BM too. My top bosses, themselves Malay, held doctorate degrees and spoke excellent textbook English! Noone can speak better and impress more!

You can see that what I had been through is a prolonged enforced learning in THREE major languages and inter-racial mixing. The result - language wise, not only I can speak TV DJ-style Mandarin, I also sound like a Malay when I speak Bahasa, and as for Engish, everything right minus the slang. I am trully lucky. Some of my primary friends were less fortunate as some went on to a Chinese medium secondary school, and never caught up with spoken English at all.

Culturally, I am very comfortable with other races, having stayed 8 years with some Malay tenants, and understand some of their culture. Have you tried eating with your hands? Food actually tastes better that way! Top up your meal with ulam in sambal belacan, learn to cook ayam rendang, or ayam curry. As a result of exposure to Malay colleagues, I came across Kelantanese style cooking. Today, I swear that the best dishes are ayam/ikan goreng kunyit, ikan goreng asam pedas, or tiga rasa. Of course I still enjoy Chinese cooking, not to mention the Mamak dishes, abit less though. For Indian food, my Tamil housemaid showed me how to cook Dahl curry, that it can be kept many days and is so nutritious!

What I want to tell here is, you really need to push yourself to mix and speak other languages. That will enrich oneself tremendously and prepare you for most situations. We all actually have the basics in our heads, and only speaking up daily can polish it up! Whatever effort you are prepared to put in, change comes even if you may not be aware. So a mix neighborhood is very advantageous to all.

From what I see, BSC is a mix neighborhood. That is good for us all.

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QUOTE(prozak53 @ Jun 18 2013, 01:43 PM)
Am not too sure but I reckon it's just submitting a standard form at MDKS. For this I think you need only
pay a nominal fee. For "major" reno., it may set you back around a cool 2k. In your case, if it involves
removing the common fence you share with your neighbours, then I think you may need their written consent.
For clarifications, please be advised to contact:

Majlis Daerah Kuala Selangor,
Jalan Semarak, 45000 Kuala Selangor,
Selangor Darul Ehsan.
Tel: 03-3289 1439

(P.S. Sher5091, please be advised too. All the best to both of you)
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Are u truly Prozak53?
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QUOTE(prozak53 @ Jun 19 2013, 10:56 AM)
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Oh, that's him!
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QUOTE(37 Exposures @ Jun 21 2013, 06:24 PM)
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Wonderful view! I am sure that KL- K will consider having the same provided buyers are willing to fork out a bit more from their pockets. It is worth it, afterall, that all will up your image in a nice looking neighborhood. For me, good security is essential.💕

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Oh, bro. Arecaceac, I posted at the sametime as u, so didnt know the charges till now.
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QUOTE(BSCalex @ Jun 20 2013, 09:42 PM)
Another example of the fencing gate in other new housing area
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Hope KLK can upgrade to this standard..!?  icon_idea.gif
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What type of fencing are these?
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QUOTE(prozak53 @ Jun 23 2013, 01:14 PM)
Thanks for the confirmation. Judging from the pics, I'm quite sure it's the paramesh 358 High Security Fence.
It's supposed to be 'anti-climb' with a 3"x 0.5" x 8 gauge specification. I'm sure WCT would have factored in
the cost of the fence in reaching the selling price of their units. Plus they can recoup from the compulsory
monthly maintenance fees.

Having said that, where do we go from here? Get ALL the residents to contribute and re-do the fence?
(with KLK's subsidy?) Increase security with CCTVs , more security personnel and gating the backlanes?
Or both?

IMHO, I think the days of cutting fences to sneak in and steal shoes or literally to 'curi ayam' are gone.
So I'd personally, realistically, opt for the second option or dream of the third.

In the meantime, anyone extending their kitchen can deter burglars entering through the roof (their normal
'modus operandi') by nailing down 12mm plywood on the rafters before securing the battens. Security and
insulation in one go.
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Bro. Prozak53, I agree with your suggestion on the ways to improve security in BSC. Your postings over home security measures means quite a lot to help future residents of BSC. On the security fencing that was shown here, I am agreeable to forking out a reasonable sum if KL-K can do it up.

Let us get by our tiffs to some more friendly communication henceforth. To start with, a big thank you for the info. on how to plug robbers from entering thru the roof. From the terms used, it is definite to me that you have civil engineering knowledge.

I bought a unit of Banyan for my son as his first home. He is starting life this way, and this is the only substantial purchase that we can do with our resources. It is my hope that Elvin can enjoy staying in his new home!

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QUOTE(papadon @ Jun 30 2013, 08:44 PM)
any banyan-ians got the letter yet?
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Not yet. We signed in July.
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QUOTE(stevenkkt @ Jul 11 2013, 05:34 PM)
I was curios about this project some time ago & I decided to drive there to see. Wow, it is really deserted, it is even further than Saujana Utama.
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It depends on where you are. For those who are staying in Kota Damansara, Shah Alam, Sg. Buloh, or those who want to be near to relatives and friends in the above places, it is well worth to own a freehold home in BSC. Other schemes ongoing there eg. in Puncak Alam are leasehold. In general, freehold properties are preferred as long as they are affordable. At the moment, leasehold premium is cheap (reduced to RM1,000 in Selangor strictly for own stay. The moment you sell your home, you have to pay back the actual value of the lease to the government, which according to the Selangor Land Rules, is calculated as:

1⁄4 x 1/100 x value of land x term of lease);

No one knows if government policy will change on leasehold extension premium in more than 90 years' time when the present lease expires, and premium goes up as market value of homes goes up in future.

Distance wise, BSC is only 4 to 7km. away from the town of Alam Jaya and Puncak Alam where there are plenty of good food, TESCO and other basic facilities such as mini-markets, shops, petrol station, school and banks. In addition, it is only 31 min. or 26km. via Guthrie Corridor Expressway to Sunway Giza Mall at Kota Damansara; 28min. or 29km. to Shah Alam.

However, the scenes that pass by before reaching BSC can somehow make one gather an impression of distance as one pass miles of oil palm, as compared to going to Cyberjaya. From PJ One Utama, it takes the same distance and time using highways to both places. You get to access much better facilities passing Puchong on your way to Cyberjaya but for that you end up paying much more for a new home.

Question: Just how badly or how often does one need the extra facilities? If it isn't a daily affair, such as shopping for some household furniture or curtains, and when you do need the extras, just go to Kota Damansara and Shah Alam which have comparable facilities to Puchong, why not buy in BSC? If you find it still a bother, it is a temporary perception at best since development is ongoing and the estate landscape around BSC is changing. You may miss the chance altogether.

By the way it has taken shape, BSC certainly looks impressive! For a good change, it opens your eyes upon arrival to a surprisingly urban landscape from its big open frontage, wide roads and its semi-ds and other homes graced by plenty of street lights closely lining the main entry. They make quite a magnificent scene! I am one of the many proud owners there!

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QUOTE(papadon @ Jul 15 2013, 07:10 PM)
I'm a Banyan owner and am planning to move in by December if possible. Hope more people move in!
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Plan to move in January. Today was told by klk sales staff that ALL Bayans will get delivery of vacant possession end of July, or maybe into August. Klk is in process of deciding on how much maintenance fee for Banyans for 7 months before local authority takes over.

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QUOTE(crab hammer @ Jul 18 2013, 01:01 PM)
My friend said that BSC will have water theme park like gambang. From the MDKS  planning doc tht I hv download it will be water theme park on their area of authorities. But not state where the location of water theme park

Puncak alam will be bandar ilmu/ satelite. Ijok small n medium industrial
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Are u referring to that planned by Razali City nearby BSC? What is going on? I do hope very much that it will be done and then the residents will enjoy their weekend outings there! Really looking forward to it.

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QUOTE(awiva @ Jul 19 2013, 06:37 PM)
Just got my letter for VP. Dated 17 July. Any other Banyan owners?
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Same here. May I know what is the date of your S&P? We are glad that everything will be sattled soon. We have 14 days from the 17 July to take vacant possession, ie. receive the keys and the MOT + KLK's individual title. We are letting KLK's lawyer do our transfer of title from KLK to us.
I know that buyers are advised to engage their own lawyer to protect their interest. Can anyone comment on this matter?

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QUOTE(papadon @ Jul 20 2013, 02:31 PM)
Don't you get your title when you purchase? Got my letter for VP as well.
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Thanks. For my case, Clause 11 of S&P applies: upon full payment, then the title and MOT to transfer the title to us will be given to us.

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QUOTE(awiva @ Jul 20 2013, 08:50 PM)
17 July. So I can claim 1 day LAD  tongue.gif

Tot MOT was done when sign S&P? Temporary title already got my name. Have to do again ah?
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Thanks Awiwa. Since we didn't take bank loan, only a photostated individual title in KLK's name was given to us. Only upon full payment will the original be given to us as per agreement. Anyway, your reply and Papadon's haven't addressed the issue I raised at all. And now we close this topic as after awhile, we have figured out on our own that it is better to let KLK's lawyer handle the transfer since there is no legal interpretation involved to safeguard buyer.

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QUOTE(koht04 @ Jul 26 2013, 10:49 AM)
I notice the new phrase is modern design.

those who bought early although cheaper but totally kampung style big house deisgn.
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Ya big build-up. The phase 1 semi-ds as well as the phase 2 have maximised the build-up, meaning the live-in space is biggest for a 40x80 home and I like it. Some semi-d of the same land area have shorter length! 'Kampong' is to you not me, a mere matter of perception. The Phase 1 Banyan semi-d has a sharp sloping roof, a special feature, unique and its large glass windows design is very modern.

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